Kentucky and Cal

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:52 pm

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... -year-deal

Just inked 7 year 52.5million deal.

Take UK off the table as a competitor for SM.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:54 pm

Wow, $7.5 mil a year! He ain't going anywhere.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:44 pm

not even the knicks or lakers would pay him that much. i'm pretty sure calipari is now in a 3 way tie for 2nd (with andy reid and bill belicheck) as the highest paid coach in american sports. only sean payton gets paid more ($8 million a year).

even nick saban only gets $7 million a year.

even greg popovich only gets $6 million a year.

yeah..unless he gets bored or fired for ncaa sanctions...i'd think calipari is at kentucky for a good while now.

miller to syracuse? miller to duke? miller to north carolina? (all 3 jobs will open up in the next 3-4 years...)

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:01 pm

UNC is the only one I am worried about.

No chance on Cuse or Duke. Both will hire from within.

And I hate UNC. I'm partial to the veneer of academic integrity.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:07 pm

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:22 pm

NBA coaching sources have told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that the Cleveland Cavaliers' recent pitch to Kentucky coach John Calipari was actually a 10-year offer worth nearly $80 million and included the role of coach and team president.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11056 ... -president

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:52 pm

I know recruiting can suck, but I'd never consider Cleveland a step up from Kentucky.

Tier 1: Lakers, Knicks, Heat, Bulls
Tier 2: Clippers, Celtics, Thunder, Nyets
Tier 3: Warriors, Suns, 76ers, Mavericks

Those are the only teams I'd even consider leaving Kentucky for, and after the Thunder, everyone else is a reach.

Coop Cat · Post by **Coop Cat** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:32 am

This is pretty smart.

Kentucky coach John Calipari finalizing unprecedented scouting combine for NBA personnel

University of Kentucky coach John Calipari is finalizing plans for an unprecedented two-day campus scouting combine for NBA executives to evaluate his star-laden roster of professional prospects, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Calipari has invited officials of the 30 NBA teams to send personnel to Lexington, Ky., on Oct. 11-12 to watch his players do everything from run full-court five-on-five and NBA-style pick-and-roll sets to individual skill work.

The event is a chance for Calipari to impress a throng of top high school recruits on campus visits and once again frame his program as college basketball's best NBA feeder system. Kentucky is expected to be a consensus preseason No. 1 in the polls.

After the combine, Calipari plans to shut out NBA executives and scouts from his practices for several weeks – perhaps even months – into the season, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

This way, Calipari can avoid the distractions that a constant parade of NBA scouts can present to so many talented young players in the practice gym.

NBA personnel aren't allowed to interact with college undergraduates, but Calipari can simply shape his workouts to be conducive to the NBA's needs.

As one executive laughed, "We're just there as B-roll for his recruiting videos."

Calipari and his staff have been in contact with NBA executives on the format of the two-day event. Kentucky is expected to run double sessions of practice and workouts on Oct. 12 before closing off access to NBA teams for the foreseeable future.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--k ... 04100.html

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:02 am

Guy is cunning and smart, can't deny that.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:04 am

Should be illegal

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:14 am

Why NBA isn't interacting with the kids and its consolidated to one day in preseason.

smart smart smart.

It isn't a lesser tiered schools fault that they can't do this.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:30 am

CalStateTempe wrote:Why NBA isn't interacting with the kids and its consolidated to one day in preseason.

smart smart smart.

It isn't a lesser tiered schools fault that they can't do this.

Kentucky is an NBA factory. This is their selling point, and this is just more evidence.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:44 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Why NBA isn't interacting with the kids and its consolidated to one day in preseason.

smart smart smart.

It isn't a lesser tiered schools fault that they can't do this.
Kentucky is an NBA factory. This is their selling point, and this is just more evidence.

That's what Jim Rosborough said Arizona was under Lute not 10 years ago.

Glad we're better than this.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:49 am

At least Cal is being transparent about what UK is.

I can respect that.

I'd rather be friends with an arrogant person who owns it, than a passive aggressive "nice-guy" appearing one. I kinda see the UK program and Cal through that same perspective.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:11 am

CalStateTempe wrote:At least Cal is being transparent about what UK is.

I can respect that.

I'd rather be friends with an arrogant person who owns it, than a passive aggressive "nice-guy" appearing one. I kinda see the UK program and Cal through that same perspective.

Yeah, I don't have an issue with it. I'd have one if Cal was always pumping sunshine about student athletes, etc. He's fairly straightforward about what the program is, though, and fairly straightforward about who he is too.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:23 am

As if no NBA scouts get any UK exposure. Joke.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:51 am

Olsondogg wrote:As if no NBA scouts get any UK exposure. Joke.

The result is going to get vacated anyways, so it doesn't matter however you look at it.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:51 am

Does this mean Cal is going to sub in 5 players at a time?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... ipari-says

If so, won't that be kind of stupid since you'll have 5 cold players on the floor at the same time without any sense of the flow of the game to that point?

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:57 am

Cal says alot of stuff. Most of it isn't factual.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:01 am

I really don't get the Cal hate around here.

Cal should have been given a consulting fee for his AD work during the Miller hire. More efficacious compared to who we had in charge and his scatterbrained drive through New Mexico high county as a selling point for Tucson. At least LG didn't have a hankering for a good burger.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:39 am

People give Cal so much credit...and for something 6 plus years ago...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:59 am

CalStateTempe wrote:I really don't get the Cal hate around here.

Cal should have been given a consulting fee for his AD work during the Miller hire. More efficacious compared to who we had in charge and his scatterbrained drive through New Mexico high county as a selling point for Tucson. At least LG didn't have a hankering for a good burger.

Who's hating on Cal? I just wanted to know if this means Kentucky is going to sub 5 guys at a time and how that will work with game flow and such.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:51 am

Chicat wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I really don't get the Cal hate around here.

Cal should have been given a consulting fee for his AD work during the Miller hire. More efficacious compared to who we had in charge and his scatterbrained drive through New Mexico high county as a selling point for Tucson. At least LG didn't have a hankering for a good burger.
Who's hating on Cal? I just wanted to know if this means Kentucky is going to sub 5 guys at a time and how that will work with game flow and such.

My post was directed at Odogg, wasn't intended to you Chi, I shouldn't have written the first sentence.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:14 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:
Chicat wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I really don't get the Cal hate around here.

Cal should have been given a consulting fee for his AD work during the Miller hire. More efficacious compared to who we had in charge and his scatterbrained drive through New Mexico high county as a selling point for Tucson. At least LG didn't have a hankering for a good burger.
Who's hating on Cal? I just wanted to know if this means Kentucky is going to sub 5 guys at a time and how that will work with game flow and such.
My post was directed at Odogg, wasn't intended to you Chi, I shouldn't have written the first sentence.

My apologies to everyone. I'll try to restrict my coach-hate to Pastner only.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:50 am

Coop Cat · Post by **Coop Cat** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:07 am

So Smart:

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:19 am

Pretty sweet.

biggles · Post by **biggles** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:45 am

Coop Cat wrote:So Smart:

I must be the only person on the planet who thinks this is a shitty idea.

From Arizona's media day interviews, I think Miller and every single player emphasized "chemistry" and how you have to work at it and it takes time. Yet what Calipari is doing at the exact same time of year is to remind all of his players "The ultimate goal here is the NBA. And hey, you guys are actually competing WITH each other. Now go get to it"

To me it sets the completely wrong tone (for his current team), at the wrong time of the season. I'm sure it looks great to recruits, but I'm not convinced it won't hurt this year's team.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:03 am

biggles wrote:
Coop Cat wrote:So Smart:

I must be the only person on the planet who thinks this is a shitty idea.

From Arizona's media day interviews, I think Miller and every single player emphasized "chemistry" and how you have to work at it and it takes time. Yet what Calipari is doing at the exact same time of year is to remind all of his players "The ultimate goal here is the NBA. And hey, you guys are actually competing WITH each other. Now go get to it"

To me it sets the completely wrong tone (for his current team), at the wrong time of the season. I'm sure it looks great to recruits, but I'm not convinced it won't hurt this year's team.

Cal has always been honest about the main goal of his program being to get kids to the NBA. That's why he's able to sell 5* recruits on coming in for one year. Even if they have to sit the bench, their time on the court is all about maximizing their exposure to NBA personnel. And this is just another way of doing that.

It's never been about chemistry for his teams. They win because they're talented. But that's just a byproduct of showcasing the players to their future employers.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:39 pm

biggles wrote:
Coop Cat wrote:So Smart:

I must be the only person on the planet who thinks this is a shitty idea.

From Arizona's media day interviews, I think Miller and every single player emphasized "chemistry" and how you have to work at it and it takes time. Yet what Calipari is doing at the exact same time of year is to remind all of his players "The ultimate goal here is the NBA. And hey, you guys are actually competing WITH each other. Now go get to it"

To me it sets the completely wrong tone (for his current team), at the wrong time of the season. I'm sure it looks great to recruits, but I'm not convinced it won't hurt this year's team.

The point is to get the whole NBA thing over with and out of the way before the season even starts. The players can be evaluated directly without having to showcase when winning is on the line, and without distracting practices and game preparations. The NBA drafts on potential, but that potential requires exposure. Unveil the potential now, and that way nobody needs the season for that. It's precisely the opposite of undermining chemistry. It's establishing a focused framework for chemistry to flourish. That way it's a publicity tool for continued recruiting and a shielding tool for winning now. It sends the message to current and future players that such depth of talent doesn't detract from anyone's NBA aspirations: Kentucky is a conduit to the NBA and still about being a winner in the moment.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:06 pm

Personally I think it is a self serving idea. "Hey look at UK, we have NBA scouts all coming to our combine".

Whatever, happens on a regular basis during practices in Tucson, as well as the games. But hey, if Cal wants to waive his flag about being the NBA factory that's fine. Stats don't lie...just look at the last quarter century and tell me who put the most in the NBA.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:39 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Personally I think it is a self serving idea. "Hey look at UK, we have NBA scouts all coming to our combine".

Whatever, happens on a regular basis during practices in Tucson, as well as the games. But hey, if Cal wants to waive his flag about being the NBA factory that's fine. Stats don't lie...just look at the last quarter century and tell me who put the most in the NBA.

If it weren't self-serving, then why would Calipari do it? But the message it sends doesn't impinge on Arizona, which is also served by it. Kentucky and Arizona belong to the same top rung of the hierarchy, and both are programs known for preparing talent for the NBA. It's a buttressing of the recognition that "playing for a winner" v. "being the man" isn't the same question as "playing for a winner" v. "showcasing for the League." Going to a lesser program to pad your stats while playing with reduced exposure, fewer wins, and missing out on "One Shining Moment" doesn't streamline one's path toward the NBA. The idea really marshals the talent to deep rosters at Kentucky, Arizona, UNC, Kansas, and Duke. It's almost like a lift of the the leveling power of the salary cap that's supposed to benefit smaller markets in the NBA.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:42 pm

biggles · Post by **biggles** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:39 pm

Longhorned wrote: The point is to get the whole NBA thing over with and out of the way before the season even starts.

I get that that's the argument, but I don't see that working whatsoever. Let's say you're competing with another guy at your position, and he outplays you today. Are you really going to go "well, time to sacrifice myself for the team so he can get drafted higher?"

Or are you going to have in the back of your mind the entire season "I know I'm better than this guy, I just need to get out there and show it." If you have that mentality, are you going to pass up a good shot to get that guy a great shot? Are you going to cover his ass on defense or hope he gets burned?

I 100% understand that with Calipari there is zero apology that his number one priority is to put kids in the NBA. I just don't think it's the BEST way to start off your season in a sport where teamwork makes such a big difference.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:44 pm

biggles wrote:
Longhorned wrote: The point is to get the whole NBA thing over with and out of the way before the season even starts.
I get that that's the argument, but I don't see that working whatsoever. Let's say you're competing with another guy at your position, and he outplays you today. Are you really going to go "well, time to sacrifice myself for the team so he can get drafted higher?"

Or are you going to have in the back of your mind the entire season "I know I'm better than this guy, I just need to get out there and show it." If you have that mentality, are you going to pass up a good shot to get that guy a great shot? Are you going to cover his ass on defense or hope he gets burned?

I 100% understand that with Calipari there is zero apology that his number one priority is to put kids in the NBA. I just don't think it's the BEST way to start off your season in a sport where teamwork makes such a big difference.

If a player is going to get beat out for playing time, he's going to lose those minutes regardless. And if he's bitter about riding pine and hurting team chemistry, he'll do that anyway. But this way, he'll get to have NBA scout exposure in spite of the lack of floor time and without interfering with game prep and player development.

There's a pretty clear indication that Calipari is sincerely concerned about team chemistry. In addition to this combine, he's talked about having a two-squad rotation. Too many talented players is a legitimate worry. His answer is to carry out this event, which you find unconvincing. Maybe you'll be right, and Cal will be wrong.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:39 pm

Something about glass houses:

Lando05 · Post by **Lando05** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:38 pm

Kudos to Coach Cal, they have their Midnight madness event tonight being a live event on Snap Chat tonight. I hope this is something Coach Miller and Bryne can stay on top of and make happen. Would love to see the basketball team get one of these for a big game this year!

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:31 am

J. Vanderbilt to Kentucky

I know AZ seemed to back off

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:16 pm

Cal gets a new contract, 10 years $86 million

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:20 pm

I’ve heard Cal pays $20k/mo per 5 star.

In the NCAA’s new enforcement system, this post is enough evidence to investigate Kentucky and severely sanction them.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:20 pm

Chicat wrote:I’ve heard Cal pays $20k/mo per 5 star.

In the NCAA’s new enforcement system, this post is enough evidence to investigate Kentucky and severely sanction them.

Yes, but did he KILL FIVE HOOKERS?

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:55 pm

Loss at home to Evansville

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:13 pm

threenumberones wrote:Loss at home to Evansville

Listened to it. It was spectacular!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon May 18, 2020 4:39 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon May 18, 2020 6:37 pm

That tweet is useless without pics.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:31 pm

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:28 pm

Watched the 1h of Miami vs UK. I'm not an Xs and Os guy, but if Miami got a shot off with any more than 1 ball screen I didn't see it. They can shoot, but they don't play "team" offense the way we play "team" offense.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:26 am

I watched about 15 mins of the Alabama game last night I they said that 92% of their shots come with 2 or less passes. They talked like that was a good thing. That they play fast was the reason. The part of the game I watched they were losing don't know how it ended.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:57 pm

Gonna lose to South Carolina.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:41 am

dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:57 pm Gonna lose to South Carolina.

UK is for real this season, especially with their big man now eligible. But aside from Purdue, there aren’t any top 10 teams that look like locks for the FF (or even the E8).

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