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ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
UK already has two higher-ranked guards signed (how the f*/& do they DO that?!) so aren't interested.azcat49 wrote:ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
Little worried about that myself.
Fixed it for youASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned about everything, always.
Doesn't answer my concern and is childish, but OK. Any actual insight?luteformayor2 wrote:Fixed it for youASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned about everything, always.
luteformayor2 wrote:Fixed it for youASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned about everything, always.
Pretty easy to explain. You have been after the guy hard since 2014, before a lot of other schools. He's had you in his top 3. One of those schools, Kentucky, scored huge at both guard spots and need to use their last scholarship for a big. The other school just had their head coach fired. So clearly, you're the team, right? Out of nowhere, in comes Arizona. They didn't pull out once they heard Arizona was now in the mix, they pulled out once they heard the whole world say Arizona is probably going to be the team. It makes sense, u can't fault them, and u can't fault the kid. Who knows if it's100 percent accurate, but dude wanted Kentucky, bad. Ohio State was a fallback plan, and one that he obviously was not in love with. Or maybe even a bargaining chip he brought to the table to try to force Kentucky's hand, to make them jump before he was lost to Ohio State. To me, it clearly looks like he was going to be a running rebel if Rice wasn't fired.ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
I've provided insight above, but you don't respond. Probably because you're working too hard being pessimistic to be bothered by facts. If that's the case, then stop asking.ASUHATER! wrote:Doesn't answer my concern and is childish, but OK. Any actual insight?luteformayor2 wrote:Fixed it for youASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned about everything, always.
Kentucky, Ohio State, Arizona, North Carolina, UNLV, Cincy, FSU, LSU, Memphis, Marquette, NC State, Providence, Syracuse, Tennessee, USC, Vandy, Virginia, Xavier... just some of the schools who have offered. And Miller is a witch. We will probably never know the story, but it sounds like they have been hanging in the background. The frontrunner never had a chance despite being a safe pick, one favorite rolled his ankle before the backstretch, and the Kentucky Derby winner was apathetic about even winning the race. It looks like Arizona is the pace horse that had a full tank of holy shit and took advantage of the three favorites various reasons for crapping out.azcat49 wrote:luteformayor2 wrote:Fixed it for youASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned about everything, always.
Now that is funny. Nice job.
Just don't follow recruiting much, seems like a 5 star would have guys crawling all over him and now it seems we swoop in late and get him easily. No one even putting up resistance. Just kind-of weird.
Is he a 1 and done tyoe? A Dorset who other guys don't want to play with? Hard to handle parents?
Seems like a wussy move by Ohio state. They shouldn't have wimped out if they want the kid. So no, it's not easy to explain, other than saying "Ohio state are pussies"rgdeuce wrote:Pretty easy to explain. You have been after the guy hard since 2014, before a lot of other schools. He's had you in his top 3. One of those schools, Kentucky, scored huge at both guard spots and need to use their last scholarship for a big. The other school just had their head coach fired. So clearly, you're the team, right? Out of nowhere, in comes Arizona. They didn't pull out once they heard Arizona was now in the mix, they pulled out once they heard the whole world say Arizona is probably going to be the team. It makes sense, u can't fault them, and u can't fault the kid. Who knows if it's100 percent accurate, but dude wanted Kentucky, bad. Ohio State was a fallback plan, and one that he obviously was not in love with. Or maybe even a bargaining chip he brought to the table to try to force Kentucky's hand, to make them jump before he was lost to Ohio State. To me, it clearly looks like he was going to be a running rebel if Rice wasn't fired.ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
And I am not the least bit concerned as a fan. He's a supreme talent, if he needs to be reeled in, Miller will do it, and he is on a team of good guys. If he doesn't, then we know what happens, and we have plenty of depth. And the whole kentucky thing, I don't care. If you meet a hot chick and she really wants your best friend, but he is like ehhhh, you going to be mad when she still thinks you are good looking as well and you are doing the horizontal bop with her knowing she really wanted your best friend? Not me.
It isn't a wussy move. I can see their frustrations and Matta doesn't seem like that type of guy. We have seen Calipari be a sore loser and be sour with Stanley after he announced us. Never took Matta for that at all. And you can't fault the kid either.ASUHATER! wrote:Seems like a wussy move by Ohio state. They shouldn't have wimped out if they want the kid. So no, it's not easy to explain, other than saying "Ohio state are pussies"rgdeuce wrote:Pretty easy to explain. You have been after the guy hard since 2014, before a lot of other schools. He's had you in his top 3. One of those schools, Kentucky, scored huge at both guard spots and need to use their last scholarship for a big. The other school just had their head coach fired. So clearly, you're the team, right? Out of nowhere, in comes Arizona. They didn't pull out once they heard Arizona was now in the mix, they pulled out once they heard the whole world say Arizona is probably going to be the team. It makes sense, u can't fault them, and u can't fault the kid. Who knows if it's100 percent accurate, but dude wanted Kentucky, bad. Ohio State was a fallback plan, and one that he obviously was not in love with. Or maybe even a bargaining chip he brought to the table to try to force Kentucky's hand, to make them jump before he was lost to Ohio State. To me, it clearly looks like he was going to be a running rebel if Rice wasn't fired.ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
And I am not the least bit concerned as a fan. He's a supreme talent, if he needs to be reeled in, Miller will do it, and he is on a team of good guys. If he doesn't, then we know what happens, and we have plenty of depth. And the whole kentucky thing, I don't care. If you meet a hot chick and she really wants your best friend, but he is like ehhhh, you going to be mad when she still thinks you are good looking as well and you are doing the horizontal bop with her knowing she really wanted your best friend? Not me.
He said 6pm on his Twitter. I don't know what time zone that is though.Beachcat97 wrote:Do we know what time he's announcing tomorrow?
We aren't passing Duke, nor should we. I think Duke has the best class in the country coming in.Beachcat97 wrote:Even with a class of LM and KS, that probably sends us skyrocketing up the class rankings. Add JJ, and we pass everyone but UK.
I am more concerned with the USA basketball issue than who is recruiting him at this point. OSU was still recruiting him hard until it become clear they weren't getting him, my understanding is that both UNC and UK were also recruiting him hard until their situations changed. Not sure who else you want to be recruiting him, he has made it clear he wants to go to a contender and Duke, UK, and MSU all are full at his position and UNC will have a returning Junior ready to take over for Paige at PG looking at over 30 MPG.ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
If you don't trust Sean Miller by now, you will never, never, never trust Sean Miller at all.ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
6 pm ET = 4 pm in Az?Beachcat97 wrote:Do we know what time he's announcing tomorrow?
Right. I forgot that they've already locked in two of the top five players. Man, K just doesn't quit. Wonder if he can catch Wooden.gronk4heisman wrote:We aren't passing Duke, nor should we. I think Duke has the best class in the country coming in.Beachcat97 wrote:Even with a class of LM and KS, that probably sends us skyrocketing up the class rankings. Add JJ, and we pass everyone but UK.
Alieberman wrote:With all the craziness of this situation It would be a shame if he was just mixing us up with ASU this whole time.
Only in a foot race. He's not doubling the number of titles he's won at age 68.Beachcat97 wrote:Right. I forgot that they've already locked in two of the top five players. Man, K just doesn't quit. Wonder if he can catch Wooden.gronk4heisman wrote:We aren't passing Duke, nor should we. I think Duke has the best class in the country coming in.Beachcat97 wrote:Even with a class of LM and KS, that probably sends us skyrocketing up the class rankings. Add JJ, and we pass everyone but UK.
Thx Deuce makes sense. Glad to get himrgdeuce wrote:Kentucky, Ohio State, Arizona, North Carolina, UNLV, Cincy, FSU, LSU, Memphis, Marquette, NC State, Providence, Syracuse, Tennessee, USC, Vandy, Virginia, Xavier... just some of the schools who have offered. And Miller is a witch. We will probably never know the story, but it sounds like they have been hanging in the background. The frontrunner never had a chance despite being a safe pick, one favorite rolled his ankle before the backstretch, and the Kentucky Derby winner was apathetic about even winning the race. It looks like Arizona is the pace horse that had a full tank of holy shit and took advantage of the three favorites various reasons for crapping out.azcat49 wrote:luteformayor2 wrote:Fixed it for youASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned about everything, always.
Now that is funny. Nice job.
Just don't follow recruiting much, seems like a 5 star would have guys crawling all over him and now it seems we swoop in late and get him easily. No one even putting up resistance. Just kind-of weird.
Is he a 1 and done tyoe? A Dorset who other guys don't want to play with? Hard to handle parents?
Yeah I think Simmons has just mishandled his recruitment by prolonging it to the point where he was going to end up with his safety school (UNLV) as opposed to his top choices, but once their head man got canned he didn't want to risk missing out on his last choice and last remaining coach he has the best relationship with (Book), so he's popping for Arizona before even visiting just to ensure they don't pursue anybody else to fill that spot. Recruiting is hard thing to handle when quite frankly you've never experienced it before that's for sure. This is like finding a 100 bill off the street for Arizona. We're playing with house money here and any risks that come with this kid are well worth it. At worst if he doesn't take to coaching then he'll ride the pine.gronk4heisman wrote:I am more concerned with the USA basketball issue than who is recruiting him at this point. OSU was still recruiting him hard until it become clear they weren't getting him, my understanding is that both UNC and UK were also recruiting him hard until their situations changed. Not sure who else you want to be recruiting him, he has made it clear he wants to go to a contender and Duke, UK, and MSU all are full at his position and UNC will have a returning Junior ready to take over for Paige at PG looking at over 30 MPG.ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
Another observation, it looks like the Simmons news may have lit a fire under PJC which will hopefully help us throughout this year.
No WAY. They won't even be a front runner to win it all next year with that class.Beachcat97 wrote:Right. I forgot that they've already locked in two of the top five players. Man, K just doesn't quit. Wonder if he can catch Wooden.gronk4heisman wrote:We aren't passing Duke, nor should we. I think Duke has the best class in the country coming in.Beachcat97 wrote:Even with a class of LM and KS, that probably sends us skyrocketing up the class rankings. Add JJ, and we pass everyone but UK.
Watching the UDub game last night looked up Noah Dickerson, to see if he somehow related to the former UA great Michael Dickerson who is from the Seattle area.gumby wrote:Noticed last night that Marcus Sheffield of Stanford is also from Alpharetta, Ga. They were not teammates. Jaylen Brown, Tony Parker and Jordan Adams also from Georgia. It's a Peach Pipeline.
Didn't he play with Ben Simmons at Montverde? I know he was going to Florida until Billy D left for OKCMerkin wrote:Watching the UDub game last night looked up Noah Dickerson, to see if he somehow related to the former UA great Michael Dickerson who is from the Seattle area.gumby wrote:Noticed last night that Marcus Sheffield of Stanford is also from Alpharetta, Ga. They were not teammates. Jaylen Brown, Tony Parker and Jordan Adams also from Georgia. It's a Peach Pipeline.
He's not, but did notice that he played his AAU ball in Georgia, although he is from Florida.
Very nice. Ark.gumby wrote:Wondered the same about Dickerson. Michael had a relative who played for USF, Cole.
About Noah's shot: Needs more Arc.
Kobi Simmons may be one of the most talented players in the 2016 class, but he's having a summer and early fall period to forget.
After a poor showing in summer AAU events, Simmons has now reportedly been kicked out of Team USA Basketball, per Draft Express' Jonathan Givony:
JP PrinceJefe wrote:Have we ever had a 6'6" point guard?
A lot of similarities to Stanleys game, check out his shooting form:
From October 2015:
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2015/10/3/944 ... -it-affect" target="_blank
Kobi Simmons may be one of the most talented players in the 2016 class, but he's having a summer and early fall period to forget.
After a poor showing in summer AAU events, Simmons has now reportedly been kicked out of Team USA Basketball, per Draft Express' Jonathan Givony:
I know, I know. And not a word from 97. Concerning.HiCat wrote:Slow down on the chicken counting.
I think '97 has left the Beardownwildcats building.Beachcat97 wrote:I know, I know. And not a word from 97. Concerning.HiCat wrote:Slow down on the chicken counting.
The Atlanta guys that went to UCLA came from them hiring Korey McCray (I think that's what his name was), he was the Atlanta Celtics AAU coach and he hand delivered those guys to Howland.gumby wrote:Noticed last night that Marcus Sheffield of Stanford is also from Alpharetta, Ga. They were not teammates. Jaylen Brown, Tony Parker and Jordan Adams also from Georgia. It's a Peach Pipeline.
While it is a valid point... That USA Basketball situation would concern me except for the fact that I am quite certain Miller is abreast of all the details that none of us know about. If he has no issues, I don't either.gronk4heisman wrote:I am more concerned with the USA basketball issue than who is recruiting him at this point. OSU was still recruiting him hard until it become clear they weren't getting him, my understanding is that both UNC and UK were also recruiting him hard until their situations changed. Not sure who else you want to be recruiting him, he has made it clear he wants to go to a contender and Duke, UK, and MSU all are full at his position and UNC will have a returning Junior ready to take over for Paige at PG looking at over 30 MPG.ASUHATER! wrote:He looks really good. I'm just concerned as to why no one wants him.
Another observation, it looks like the Simmons news may have lit a fire under PJC which will hopefully help us throughout this year.
So, in other words - No.carolinacat wrote:JP PrinceJefe wrote:Have we ever had a 6'6" point guard?
JP frickin Prince. If memory serves, though, he went on to do alright at Tennessee.Harvey Specter wrote:So, in other words - No.carolinacat wrote:JP PrinceJefe wrote:Have we ever had a 6'6" point guard?
As a small forward.Beachcat97 wrote:JP frickin Prince. If memory serves, though, he went on to do alright at Tennessee.Harvey Specter wrote:So, in other words - No.carolinacat wrote:JP PrinceJefe wrote:Have we ever had a 6'6" point guard?
