Who will be Arizona's next DL Coach?

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:47 am

As much as we want to know who the new guy is... yeah, I agree with this. Bad enough news day, this can sit for a weekend if need be.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:01 pm

What bad news today?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:09 pm

What's the bad news?

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:16 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:What's the bad news?

USC may get a competent AD thus making them a juggernaut in football again?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:23 pm

I doubt Byrne goes to USC. If that's the bad news then...haha

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:24 pm

Louisville announcement (players suffer, coach gets off scot free).
Haden retiring (not necessarily bad but takes a lot of the media attention).
Manziel stuff (hate to see anyone falling apart like this, even someone like him).
Crane collapse (1 dead, others injured, a lot of damage).
All of this the Friday before Super Bowl. If you want this announcement to go unnoticed, then announce today.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:28 pm

azpenguin wrote:Louisville announcement (players suffer, coach gets off scot free).
Haden retiring (not necessarily bad but takes a lot of the media attention).
Manziel stuff (hate to see anyone falling apart like this, even someone like him).
Crane collapse (1 dead, others injured, a lot of damage).
All of this the Friday before Super Bowl. If you want this announcement to go unnoticed, then announce today.

There is news everyday, this is a DL Coach at Arizona...How much news do you expect on even the slowest news day? This could happen in the dead of summer in between NBA and NFL seasons with only some baseball and it still would not even be a blip on ESPN. Unless it is a controversial hire.

Also Hater, wasn't implying Byrne was going to USC. Simple implying Haden was horrible at his job and it will be hard for them to find someone who doesn't improve their athletics.

Scummy Dick Douglas · Post by **Scummy Dick Douglas** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:06 pm

USC's inability to hire a competent football coach is only matched by its inability to hire a competent AD. For the sake of the rest of the PAC, lets hope the incompetence continues.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:41 pm

Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:45 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.

I know who it is and won't tell you to....IT'S WILD. If you buy premium I will share with you. Just send me a check for $200 and I'll make up some name for you and when it changes tell you how things fell thru with the guy I told you.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:58 pm

A native son comes home. Ah, the sunset will look beautiful over Tucson.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:22 pm

chiefzona wrote:A native son comes home. Ah, the sunset will look beautiful over Tucson.

Well that would be a surprise.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:27 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.
I know who it is and won't tell you to....IT'S WILD. If you buy premium I will share with you. Just send me a check for $200 and I'll make up some name for you and when it changes tell you how things fell thru with the guy I told you.

Look, I've got BearDownWildcats.com premium and I'm getting nothing out of it. So, are we finally getting Mike Ditka or what?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:07 pm

azpenguin wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.
I know who it is and won't tell you to....IT'S WILD. If you buy premium I will share with you. Just send me a check for $200 and I'll make up some name for you and when it changes tell you how things fell thru with the guy I told you.
Look, I've got BearDownWildcats.com premium and I'm getting nothing out of it. So, are we finally getting Mike Ditka or what?

You have 2nd tier premium not 1st tier premium.

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:16 pm

azgreg wrote:
azpenguin wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.
I know who it is and won't tell you to....IT'S WILD. If you buy premium I will share with you. Just send me a check for $200 and I'll make up some name for you and when it changes tell you how things fell thru with the guy I told you.
Look, I've got BearDownWildcats.com premium and I'm getting nothing out of it. So, are we finally getting Mike Ditka or what?

You have 2nd tier premium not 1st tier premium.

There's tiers now??

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:16 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.

He was just joking about the "huge" update.

All he really said was that there was a good reason there was no announcement. He didn't share the reason though. Personally, I suspect RichRod had explosive diarrhea and couldn't sit through the presser.

qwertyus · Post by **qwertyus** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:07 pm

Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.
He was just joking about the "huge" update.

All he really said was that there was a good reason there was no announcement. He didn't share the reason though. Personally, I suspect RichRod had explosive diarrhea and couldn't sit through the presser.

You'd think he'd be used to the food by now...

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:08 am

Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Scheer is dropping hints on Scout Premium that there is a "huge" development and he knows who it is, but won't reveal it.
He was just joking about the "huge" update.

All he really said was that there was a good reason there was no announcement. He didn't share the reason though. Personally, I suspect RichRod had explosive diarrhea and couldn't sit through the presser.

He was half joking.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:42 pm

chiefzona wrote:A native son comes home. Ah, the sunset will look beautiful over Tucson.

Big Joe, Hunley, Briggs, or Bruschi?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:50 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
chiefzona wrote:A native son comes home. Ah, the sunset will look beautiful over Tucson.
Big Joe, Hunley, Briggs, or Bruschi?

By native son doesn't mean an alum.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:25 pm

I think chief is say Lewis from SDSU. He is from Tucson

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:31 pm

Good bio: http://www.goaztecs.com/sports/m-footbl ... 42352.html" target="_blank

Went to Tucson High, ntOSU has a player.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:20 pm

Merkin wrote:Good bio: http://www.goaztecs.com/sports/m-footbl ... 42352.html" target="_blank

Went to Tucson High, ntOSU has a player.

Doesn't seem like a younger coach though

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:13 pm

Knows the 3-3-5

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:38 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Knows the 3-3-5

That's why I Don't want him! Lol I know we are running multiple looks

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:53 pm

3goggles wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Knows the 3-3-5
That's why I Don't want him! Lol I know we are running multiple looks

Relax 3goggles. If you read his resume you'll see he knows how to coach a defensive line. And he has southern California recruiting ties in San Diego.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:17 pm

tgrumpy2 wrote:
3goggles wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Knows the 3-3-5
That's why I Don't want him! Lol I know we are running multiple looks
Relax 3goggles. If you read his resume you'll see he knows how to coach a defensive line. And he has southern California recruiting ties in San Diego.

I was just being sarcastic grumpy! After the recent hires I have faith in what RR is doing. When you see the 3-3-5 it just takes you back to a nightmare

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:23 pm

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:53 pm

chiefzona wrote:

And this means?

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:33 pm

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:20 am

..I don't get it.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:41 am

BearDown89 wrote:

Then why the fuck did we not announce this earlier? I guess 3 out 4 good hires is good enough. Maybe with his ASSU ties we can pull some phx kids

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:47 am

Seriously? A Scout Premium costs $200? And I'm being serious. I've never ever subscribed to any board, Rivals, Scout, 247 (do they have a pay board?), PGU...

Amey huh? Suppose the pay boards claiming they knew this for certain past week and held on to the name so a free blog could claim sources and break Amey news with their certainty. Nice of them pay boards. I appreciate that. Also thankful for this free forum and others sharing their info.

Let's see if it turns out to be true or turns into another Davonte Neal to AZ...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:58 am

A) If it is Amey it's because other candidates fell through. That would account for the delay.

B) As a happy subscriber to a premium fansite I can tell you that you don't get every little piece of info. For this search everything has been kept very quiet. Which is a good thing as it relates to point A above.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:59 am

Well he definitely wasn't our first choice as if he was, he would have been named a long time ago. Underwhelming hire but then again its only the DLine coach.

We went from a ton of experience on defense as far as our coaches are concerned to literally the bare minimum. The experience factor didn't help us so admire Rich Rod for going exact opposite direction.

I wonder if Amey is going to be a great recruiter and if he has the "Savage" attitude as I think that is far more important then being a good technique coach at a position like D Line. I am not sure Ed Orgeron is an awesome technique coach, I think he is full of piss and vinegar and gets players to run through a brickwall during games and also recruits awesome players so thats why he is considered one of the best DLine coaches in the country.

We need to significantly upgrade the talent on DLine and if Amey has the sales skills to recruit those guys, then the drive to push them to play at 110%, I am fine with the hire.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:44 am

A few notes, if this was the hire UA should have done everything they could to hide the news since it is very underwhelming based on the wait. I agree with previous poster's that obviously things fell thru with other candidates.

The real question is, is that really Vincent Amey in that picture or Anthony Anderson? Maybe we are all being catfished and Vincent Amey is not a real person. Has anyone actually seen him face to face?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:43 am

At this point, nobody knows anything.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:18 pm

BearDown89 wrote:

Well it about fucking time we name a DLine coach.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:11 pm

No one has been named yet. Continue to rage Cordera.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:17 pm

I wonder if there were issues with coaches relating to players that prompted him to go 100% African American on the defensive coaching staff?

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:49 pm

jimson wrote:I wonder if there were issues with coaches relating to players that prompted him to go 100% African American on the defensive coaching staff?

The way the players tweeted after Casteel and Bill were let go would make that very hard to believe.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:43 pm

Nothing to do with African American.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:10 am

chiefzona wrote:Nothing to do with African American.

I really wouldn't care if it did. I mean if that was just one of the things he was looking at for better relations to young football players these days or something. but it does seem unusual, 100% of the new hires.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:03 am

What name, at this point, would have been worth the inexplicable wait?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:22 am

catgrad97 wrote:What name, at this point, would have been worth the inexplicable wait?

Is everyone still under the impression this was some sort of strategic move to make the fans wait this long? I thought by now it would've obvious that we didn't get the guy(s) we originally wanted and have been pursuing.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:20 am

catgrad97 wrote:What name, at this point, would have been worth the inexplicable wait?

Osia Lewis. Ed Orgeron. Tosh 3.0.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:22 am

Chicat wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:What name, at this point, would have been worth the inexplicable wait?
Is everyone still under the impression this was some sort of strategic move to make the fans wait this long? I thought by now it would've obvious that we didn't get the guy(s) we originally wanted and have been pursuing.

No. Hires that were tried were denied. Lowest common denominator.

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:40 am

chiefzona wrote:
Chicat wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:What name, at this point, would have been worth the inexplicable wait?
Is everyone still under the impression this was some sort of strategic move to make the fans wait this long? I thought by now it would've obvious that we didn't get the guy(s) we originally wanted and have been pursuing.

No. Hires that were tried were denied. Lowest common denominator.

Denied..for what reasons?

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:21 pm

So, did we have an agreement with someone depending on a background check and the background check came back with issues? What ever the true story is, It is obviously not pretty because we would have had a decision by now.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:39 pm

I'm wondering if they still aren't chasing a target. Lev said that rumors were they had been making a run at Big Joe but hadn't been able to pull it off. Had they decided they needed to go forward and go with Amey, I'd think we'd have heard by now. Camp starts in a few days.

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