lets talk '16

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Yeah four 5 star guys (gonna give LM the benefit of 5 stars). Obviously we all want JJ, but thats a crazy class, especially considering where we were a month and some change ago. Oh and Ray Smith too. Odds are that is five NBA guys playing as freshmen next year

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:31 pm

We're gonna look like UK or Duke next season, with so many freshmen getting big minutes. JJ is still the big fish out there; he will single-handedly shift the balance of power nationally. But if TF does commit, our class is ridiculous regardless.

The witch has been busy.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:48 am

Gone: PJC, Simon, Trier

On the board: Josh Jackson, though even if he commits Arizona (which I'm guessing), he may opt for China, so I won't count on until late August

That makes an 8-player rotation of:

Simmons / Allen
Alkins / Allen / Ferguson
Ferguson / Smith / Allen
Smith / Markannen / Comanche
Comanche / Ristic / Markannen

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:55 am

Wow LH, is that a scoop. PJC and Simon transferring?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:56 am

Longhorned wrote:Gone: PJC, Simon, Trier

Do you know something I don't?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:02 am

Chicat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Gone: PJC, Simon, Trier

Do you know something I don't?

No, just guessing that PJC and his people don't envision him as a career backup, and Trier is ready to go pro. I love Simon, but I'm picturing him beating the crap out of Arizona as a senior elsewhere.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:13 am

PJC should stay. Already knows Miller's style of play, and good enough for
back up minutes. Not sure how transferring would improve his playing time.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:18 am

Really don't want to lose Simon.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:21 am

Longhorned wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Gone: PJC, Simon, Trier

Do you know something I don't?
No, just guessing that PJC and his people don't envision him as a career backup, and Trier is ready to go pro. I love Simon, but I'm picturing him beating the crap out of Arizona as a senior elsewhere.

Sean Miller's greatest recruiting job this offseason may be convincing Simon that his best shot at significant playing time will be after all these one-and-dones are in the NBA and to redshirt next year.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:26 am

Longhorned wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Gone: PJC, Simon, Trier

Do you know something I don't?
No, just guessing that PJC and his people don't envision him as a career backup, and Trier is ready to go pro. I love Simon, but I'm picturing him beating the crap out of Arizona as a senior elsewhere.

I'd be surprised if all three left. Trier is really unlikely to be close to the first round and is currently more likely to be a UDFA.

Simon, the minutes are tight for next year, there's no doubt. However, he'd have to sit a year, and there's basically zero chance Smith, Ferguson/JJ, Trier and Alkins are here in 17. If Trier leaves, Simon has immediate minutes unless we get JJ and Ferguson.

PJC, yeah, I could see that.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:52 am

Chicat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Gone: PJC, Simon, Trier

Do you know something I don't?
No, just guessing that PJC and his people don't envision him as a career backup, and Trier is ready to go pro. I love Simon, but I'm picturing him beating the crap out of Arizona as a senior elsewhere.
Sean Miller's greatest recruiting job this offseason may be convincing Simon that his best shot at significant playing time will be after all these one-and-dones are in the NBA and to redshirt next year.

Makes sense to me. Why sit out a year for transferring? But I'm still guessing he transfers. Obviously, it doesn't just come down to the decision of the coaches or player.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:05 am

Chicat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Gone: PJC, Simon, Trier

Do you know something I don't?
No, just guessing that PJC and his people don't envision him as a career backup, and Trier is ready to go pro. I love Simon, but I'm picturing him beating the crap out of Arizona as a senior elsewhere.
Sean Miller's greatest recruiting job this offseason may be convincing Simon that his best shot at significant playing time will be after all these one-and-dones are in the NBA and to redshirt next year.

I think Simon's biggest issue isn't the guys coming in for next season, it's who Miller would bring in the following season at the same positions.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:09 am

PJC is going to be 3rd string next year, keeps moving down the bench. Why not start at a mid-major? Look how well Momo Jones did at Iona.

Simon was getting barely more than walk on minutes. That tells you something right there. More importantly, tells Simon something. I imagine a lot came out in the end of season one on one with CSM.

Last time Trier spent more than 1 season at a school? Has to be junior high, he had 4 high schools in 4 years.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:05 am

Lauri

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:08 am

Honor the process. Simon had a whole year with Gabe, the perfect example. He's going to have to sit out a year regardless, so after those guys all bail, even with whoever comes in the 2017 class, my guess by that time is Simon will be a completely different player who will provide a big impact. Every year thereafter is icing on the cake.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:09 am

Safe to assume that Terrance Ferguson will be a Wildcat. His commitment is really important since we have no guarantee Jackson goes to any college and bolt to China.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:10 am

rgdeuce wrote:Honor the process. Simon had a whole year with Gabe, the perfect example. He's going to have to sit out a year regardless, so after those guys all bail, even with whoever comes in the 2017 class, my guess by that time is Simon will be a completely different player who will provide a big impact. Every year thereafter is icing on the cake.

If Justin develops a jumper, he can compete with any incoming talent we'll bring in. Simon is as physically talented as any recruit we'll get. If he learns Miller's defensive system, really, he only needs a J and it makes no difference who we bring in for 2017. He'll see the court, period.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:19 am

Looks to me like Gabe York in a weaker conference. A lot of TO's, poor shooting percentage and below average D. I love Gabe York because he was ours, but I'm not sure I want someone elses Gabe York.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:47 am

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:55 am

gronk4heisman wrote:Looks to me like Gabe York in a weaker conference. A lot of TO's, poor shooting percentage and below average D. I love Gabe York because he was ours, but I'm not sure I want someone elses Gabe York.

Who?

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:59 am

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:08 am

Hopefully it's not spring break and the UA coeds are out in their short shorts and such.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:Looks to me like Gabe York in a weaker conference. A lot of TO's, poor shooting percentage and below average D. I love Gabe York because he was ours, but I'm not sure I want someone elses Gabe York.
Who?

Think G4H is referring to that Delaware transfer.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:16 am

Just rode thru campus, it's not spring break & it's going to be warm today. Girls were everywhere.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:23 am

Merkin wrote:Hopefully it's not spring break and the UA coeds are out in their short shorts and such.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:Looks to me like Gabe York in a weaker conference. A lot of TO's, poor shooting percentage and below average D. I love Gabe York because he was ours, but I'm not sure I want someone elses Gabe York.
Who?
Think G4H is referring to that Delaware transfer.

That is correct, sorry that was unclear.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:31 am

gronk4heisman wrote:
Merkin wrote:Hopefully it's not spring break and the UA coeds are out in their short shorts and such.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
gronk4heisman wrote:Looks to me like Gabe York in a weaker conference. A lot of TO's, poor shooting percentage and below average D. I love Gabe York because he was ours, but I'm not sure I want someone elses Gabe York.
Who?
Think G4H is referring to that Delaware transfer.
That is correct, sorry that was unclear.

Gotcha, sorry, that makes sense. Dude looks like a better passer than Gabe, but that is all stat based. I don't think I've ever seen a Delaware game.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:34 am

Walking on the UofA mall when it's warm out is about the closest you can get to being at the Playboy Mansion, without, you know, actually being at the Playboy Mansion.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:26 am

Ferguson has everything you want in a shooting guard.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:30 am

Dave wrote:Ferguson has everything you want in a shooting guard.

My biggest criticism would be that he's not JJ. Other than that, he's pretty talented.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:42 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_-S8ObMls0" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:43 pm

Isn't RA a shooting guard? And isn't AT? And isn't JS?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:15 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Isn't RA a shooting guard? And isn't AT? And isn't JS?

Yes and no. I think all 3 are able to play SF at the college level, as Ferguson would be. Plenty of college teams have 6'5 SF's. Simon and Ferguson are long and can get up, too.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:22 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Isn't RA a shooting guard? And isn't AT? And isn't JS?
Yes and no. I think all 3 are able to play SF at the college level, as Ferguson would be. Plenty of college teams have 6'5 SF's. Simon and Ferguson are long and can get up, too.

Assuming TF commits, have we ever been this loaded with wings? Ever??

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:34 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Assuming TF commits, have we ever been this loaded with wings? Ever??

'98

Bibby
Terry
Simon
Dickerson

** Bibby & Simon = 1st Team AA

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:59 pm

How soon they forget ...

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:21 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Isn't RA a shooting guard? And isn't AT? And isn't JS?

Jesus haven't we been over this? They're all wings, they're not pigeonholed into one position.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:28 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Isn't RA a shooting guard? And isn't AT? And isn't JS?
Jesus haven't we been over this? They're all wings, they're not pigeonholed into one position.

They're all versatile, my son.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:49 pm

97cats wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
Assuming TF commits, have we ever been this loaded with wings? Ever??
'98

Bibby
Terry
Simon
Dickerson

** Bibby & Simon = 1st Team AA

2002-03 too:

Walton, Salim, Hassan, Iguodala. Also Will Bynum if you consider him a wing not a pg. All 5 of them played multiple years in the NBA.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:26 pm

Do Terrance Ferguson, Rawle Alkins, and Kobi Simmons all know each other?
Seems like they all (or will) get along. Positive sign if so.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:42 pm

HiCat wrote:Do Terrance Ferguson, Rawle Alkins, and Kobi Simmons all know each other?
Seems like they all (or will) get along. Positive sign if so.

They're actively recruiting him and asking fans to show love to Ferguson.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:43 pm

Some MSU fan read/heard he might commit today and asked Meyer to confirm/deny

So that's likely two separate "sources" that said he might commit today.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:50 pm

woh, really?

Dave wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_-S8ObMls0

ill take him too, please. K thanks

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:50 pm

Good timing with Ferguson in town makes it easier.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:13 pm

Crystal ball climbing for Kansas, now at 50% - all signs point to KU now

Smoke = fire?

A "perfect fit" from 97 would be great right now

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:20 pm

If JJ commits to KU (which is looking quite possible) that Ferguson visit is very very important. Show him some love.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:22 pm

Hopefully Jackson goes to China instead of KU

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:23 pm

NYCat wrote:Hopefully Jackson goes to China instead of KU

Or commits to KU and then leaves for China right before the season

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:26 pm

Kansas gets a lot of guys back next year so they would be FF worthy once again with JJ.

Hopefully it's the cats on signing day

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:07 pm

A summary of the rumors, it's usually something similar to this said in various ways: its mainly between MSU & KU. Josh Jackson wants to go to Michigan State, but his mom and his "camp" are making him go to KU. KU is going to get his commitment. This I've read and paraphrased this from national people, Michigan State, & Kansas people. (Jerry Meyer still thinks he goes overseas/China but if he goes to college -- Kansas).

Now either Josh Jackson is pulling a big ruse on everyone not named Arizona and telling them the same thing, then in turn secretly telling Arizona his actual true intentions & he's coming here.

Or smoke = fire

I have no idea, it'll be over soon.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:09 pm

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:32 pm

Well this escalated quickly.

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