let's talk '17

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:11 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:

Yup.

Arizona comes in out of nowhere. UK and Duke get dropped from consideration. I hope this is a Miller trend but this late-push, out-of-nowhere player interest from Kobi to Rawle to Deandre is becoming awesome! Now Diallo and Bowen both looking possible and Ira Lee seeming likely.

This class could be a monster.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:19 pm

Two of Daejon Davis/Diallo/Walker/Bowen/Trent would be an excellent class of wings.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:16 pm

Sign me up for Diallo/Bowen

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:13 am

PG-Kobi/PJC/Barcello
SG-Rawle or Diallo plus that transfer whose name I forget.
SF-Ray or Bowen. If we can keep Rawle or Ray and add Bowen or Diallo, we should be solid on the wing. Add both (or another good prospect) and we are scary.
PF-Lee and Chance
C-Ayton and Dusan

This is my wish list for 17-18.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:14 pm

Gonna be tough to beat MSU for BB.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:38 pm

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:39 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:PG-Kobi/PJC/Barcello
SG-Rawle or Diallo plus that transfer whose name I forget.
SF-Ray or Bowen. If we can keep Rawle or Ray and add Bowen or Diallo, we should be solid on the wing. Add both (or another good prospect) and we are scary.
PF-Lee and Chance
C-Ayton and Dusan

This is my wish list for 17-18.

Dennis Smith.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:53 pm

Zero wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:PG-Kobi/PJC/Barcello
SG-Rawle or Diallo plus that transfer whose name I forget.
SF-Ray or Bowen. If we can keep Rawle or Ray and add Bowen or Diallo, we should be solid on the wing. Add both (or another good prospect) and we are scary.
PF-Lee and Chance
C-Ayton and Dusan

This is my wish list for 17-18.
Dennis Smith.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:45 pm

If we have Ayton, Comanche and Ristic on the team next year, is Lee an necessity?

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:02 pm

Dusan could always go back to Europe, then ya gotta remember Ayton isn't a guarantee

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:08 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:If we have Ayton, Comanche and Ristic on the team next year, is Lee an necessity?

Dusan is never really going to be the defender we want. Lee has some potential as a combo forward, so yeah, I'd still want him. Is he a necessity, well, that's a philosophical question on some level too.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:24 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:If we have Ayton, Comanche and Ristic on the team next year, is Lee an necessity?
Dusan is never really going to be the defender we want. Lee has some potential as a combo forward, so yeah, I'd still want him. Is he a necessity, well, that's a philosophical question on some level too.

true. i mean i'd still take any 5 star i can get...

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:59 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:If we have Ayton, Comanche and Ristic on the team next year, is Lee an necessity?

Umm considering Ristic and Ayton wouldn't be back the following year, yes Hater having a 4 with experience on the team would be a good thing.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:01 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:If we have Ayton, Comanche and Ristic on the team next year, is Lee an necessity?
Dusan is never really going to be the defender we want. Lee has some potential as a combo forward, so yeah, I'd still want him. Is he a necessity, well, that's a philosophical question on some level too.
true. i mean i'd still take any 5 star i can get...

Lee isn't a 5 star and he's not a combo forward. He's a 4 all the way. Ristic, Ayton, Comanche are really all 5s fwiw as well, although I'm sure if it keeps them happy Comanche/Ayton will get play at the 4 here and there.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:02 pm

Gary Trent visit is off btw. He's Duke bound.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:11 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:If we have Ayton, Comanche and Ristic on the team next year, is Lee an necessity?
Dusan is never really going to be the defender we want. Lee has some potential as a combo forward, so yeah, I'd still want him. Is he a necessity, well, that's a philosophical question on some level too.
true. i mean i'd still take any 5 star i can get...
Lee isn't a 5 star and he's not a combo forward. He's a 4 all the way. Ristic, Ayton, Comanche are really all 5s fwiw as well, although I'm sure if it keeps them happy Comanche/Ayton will get play at the 4 here and there.

Ahh he is a 5 on 247.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:11 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:Gary Trent visit is off btw. He's Duke bound.

Duke doesn't lose very many high priority recruits.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:01 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:If we have Ayton, Comanche and Ristic on the team next year, is Lee an necessity?
Dusan is never really going to be the defender we want. Lee has some potential as a combo forward, so yeah, I'd still want him. Is he a necessity, well, that's a philosophical question on some level too.
true. i mean i'd still take any 5 star i can get...
Lee isn't a 5 star and he's not a combo forward. He's a 4 all the way. Ristic, Ayton, Comanche are really all 5s fwiw as well, although I'm sure if it keeps them happy Comanche/Ayton will get play at the 4 here and there.
Ahh he is a 5 on 247.

No he's not.

http://247sports.com/Player/Ira-Lee-36577" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:29 pm

The ratings are sometimes misleading. We've been after Lee for a while, so CSM must think highly of him. That's enough for me.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:37 pm

I think the ratings are dead on about him. Lee is an undersized 4 who is a high effort guy. He has a decent mid range shot, but outside of that lacks an offensive game that isn't revolved around put backs. I mean if you're looking for a comparison then Craig Victor is your guy. He's an important piece if he stays around unlike Victor. He's an Arizona kid born and bred although he's out of the state now. If there's a guy like him that's a local you take him.

The only thing I'm iffy on about him is he's a bit injury prone. Hopefully getting into a collegiate strength and conditioning program remedies those issues though.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:23 am

And so bottom line is that he's a multi year player that you develop for the future.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:35 pm

Does anyone know who exactly will be visiting for the the red-blue game?

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:17 pm

Frybry02 wrote:Does anyone know who exactly will be visiting for the the red-blue game?

Ira Lee
Daejon Davis
PJ Washington
2018 pg Brandon Williams
Ayton and Barcello

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:02 am

luteformayor2 wrote:
Frybry02 wrote:Does anyone know who exactly will be visiting for the the red-blue game?
Ira Lee
Daejon Davis
PJ Washington
2018 pg Brandon Williams
Ayton and Barcello

Thanks!

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:22 am

ChooChooCat wrote:I think the ratings are dead on about him. Lee is an undersized 4 who is a high effort guy. He has a decent mid range shot, but outside of that lacks an offensive game that isn't revolved around put backs. I mean if you're looking for a comparison then Craig Victor is your guy. He's an important piece if he stays around unlike Victor. He's an Arizona kid born and bred although he's out of the state now. If there's a guy like him that's a local you take him.

The only thing I'm iffy on about him is he's a bit injury prone. Hopefully getting into a collegiate strength and conditioning program remedies those issues though.

I have a different comparison. Lee reminds me (especially lately) of Brandon Ashley. That offensive game (faceup J, junk around the rim and decent off hand) is where BA was a freshman.

I know listed h/w can be unreliable, but Lee is 6'8, 225 and Ashley was 6'8, 215. In the interest of full disclosure, I've just been following youtube packages for Lee, but even there, he seems to be growing his game at a decent pace.

Edit: the BA comparison is also why I see him as a potential combo forward. BA was a natural 4 but could play the 3 in a pinch.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:56 pm

So apparently Pima has a game this Saturday against a team that Miller is recruiting 3 guys from? I heard they are trying to reschedule the game so Miller can attend. On Pima's website it shows them playing a scrimmage against Planet Athlete and then Elite 1. I cant find roster info anywhere, who might these 3 players be?

October 22, Pima heads to Phoenix to play Hillcrest Prep where Ayton plays. Might have to make the trip

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:23 pm

luteformayor2 wrote:
Frybry02 wrote:Does anyone know who exactly will be visiting for the the red-blue game?
Ira Lee
Daejon Davis
PJ Washington
2018 pg Brandon Williams
Ayton and Barcello

Also Miles Norris, Taeshon Cherry, and Quentin Grimes

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:43 am

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:26 pm

Our '17 class is going to me massive.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:58 pm

Jefe wrote:So apparently Pima has a game this Saturday against a team that Miller is recruiting 3 guys from? I heard they are trying to reschedule the game so Miller can attend. On Pima's website it shows them playing a scrimmage against Planet Athlete and then Elite 1. I cant find roster info anywhere, who might these 3 players be?

October 22, Pima heads to Phoenix to play Hillcrest Prep where Ayton plays. Might have to make the trip

2PM Saturday at Pima West vs Aspirce Academy

Anyone recognize these names as recruits?

http://www.aspirebasketballacademy.com/ ... son=290085" target="_blank
http://www.aspirebasketballacademy.com/ ... son=290086" target="_blank

10/22 at Pima West vs Hillcrest Prep(Ayton) 4PM

az91 · Post by **az91** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:20 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:Gary Trent will be visiting for the Red/Blue game.

I don't think so. He cut us from his list: http://duke.247sports.com/Bolt/Five-Sta ... s-48091650" target="_blank

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:34 pm

az91 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Gary Trent will be visiting for the Red/Blue game.
I don't think so. He cut us from his list: http://duke.247sports.com/Bolt/Five-Sta ... s-48091650" target="_blank

Yeah, this happened about a week ago.

Miller isn't giving folks the Justise Winslow treatment with Official Visits if they are likely to pull a Justise Winslow and only visit for the... Fun of it.

Programs only have so many Officials. And Arizona needed to have them for folks actually interested in playing for Arizona.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:00 pm

Jefe wrote:
Jefe wrote:So apparently Pima has a game this Saturday against a team that Miller is recruiting 3 guys from? I heard they are trying to reschedule the game so Miller can attend. On Pima's website it shows them playing a scrimmage against Planet Athlete and then Elite 1. I cant find roster info anywhere, who might these 3 players be?

October 22, Pima heads to Phoenix to play Hillcrest Prep where Ayton plays. Might have to make the trip
2PM Saturday at Pima West vs Aspirce Academy

Anyone recognize these names as recruits?

http://www.aspirebasketballacademy.com/ ... son=290085" target="_blank
http://www.aspirebasketballacademy.com/ ... son=290086" target="_blank

10/22 at Pima West vs Hillcrest Prep(Ayton) 4PM

They have a large front line. a 7' amd 2 6'10" guys. 2 of those guys are from Senegal i think

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:22 pm

So we're not getting Trent. Diallo and Duval are still options, presumably. Unless KS or RA leaves after one season, we may be okay without adding another guard to the '17 class. We'll have those two plus PJC, Barcello, Smith, and Cruz. So that's 6 guards if no one leaves.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:16 pm

Miller said hes bringing in 7...

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:30 pm

Ayton
Mccoy
Randolph
Lee
Barcello

Apparently maybe a shot at Lonnie Walker too.

THAT would be the #1 class in the country right there

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:43 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:Ayton
Mccoy
Randolph
Lee
Barcello

Apparently maybe a shot at Lonnie Walker too.

THAT would be the #1 class in the country right there

Hard to know where Kentucky or Duke will finish... BUT..

A perfect class with a blend of immediate superstar talent and guys that will contribute for several years if not all 4. It has shooting, defense and rebounding. JUST WOW.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:55 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:Ayton
Mccoy
Randolph
Lee
Barcello

Apparently maybe a shot at Lonnie Walker too.

THAT would be the #1 class in the country right there

Randolph's been showing some AZ lean lately. Might be tough to beat Cuonzo for McCoy. And I love our chances for Lee. So the above class might be a long shot, but certainly possible.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:25 am

Miller in on another top player:

http://www.scout.com/college/north-caro ... vanderbilt" target="_blank

“The schools I’m probably going to visit are Arizona, Texas, Kentucky, North Carolina, and I haven’t decided the fifth one yet,” he said. “It’s probably going to be between Oregon or Kansas.”
When discussing those finalists, Vanderbilt highlighted Arizona’s Sean Miller (as the coach recruiting him the hardest), Kentucky’s professional training, Texas's potentially good fit.

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:31 pm

Hrmmm. . . http://www.espn.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/ ... t?id=16319" target="_blank

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:50 pm

ghostwhitehorse wrote:Hrmmm. . . http://www.espn.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/ ... t?id=16319" target="_blank

Will Arizona pull five-star Lonnie Walker away from Villanova?

Very interesting. Hmmmm is right

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:te]

Might be tough to beat Cuonzo for McCoy.

No it wouldn't.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:13 am

Brandon Randolph announcing his choice tonight and AZ is the favorite

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketbal ... esday.html" target="_blank

http://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Randolph-87972" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:10 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:te]

Might be tough to beat Cuonzo for McCoy.
No it wouldn't.

Rabb.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:26 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:te]

Might be tough to beat Cuonzo for McCoy.
No it wouldn't.
Rabb.

Cal was obviously a very serious candidate to land Rabb. Cal is not a serious candidate to land McCoy. I don't think I can spell it out for you any other way.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:42 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:te]

Might be tough to beat Cuonzo for McCoy.
No it wouldn't.
Rabb.
Cal was obviously a very serious candidate to land Rabb. Cal is not a serious candidate to land McCoy. I don't think I can spell it out for you any other way.

I think the big question is, if he comes here, do we get the real McCoy? Or the mid-90's group Real McCoy. Or possibly not the real McCoy at all?

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:13 am

As long as we don't get Jelani McCoy.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:01 am

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:07 am

catgrad97 wrote:As long as we don't get Jelani McCoy.

I did a media marketing project back in school for Guilio Scalinger's class where I pitched a documentary based upon the John Feinstein book "A Season Inside".

You had to write a treatment, do financials, etc. My plan was to follow 3 college basketball players and a recruit...Hoop Dreams style, except Hoop Dreams had not happened. I had Damon Stoudamire (of course), Some kid named Nygard (?) from Wisconsin Green Bay, another random low level player, and my high school recruit was Jelani McCoy.

My co-producer (read...one who did not have his project picked) was with the basketball team staff, so we were able to use the AD color printer and he was able to send requests for media material on our "subjects". Basically, that dude did the leg work, I wrote the treatment and compiled the budget, then went to his place to hammer it out on his old Apple (well, it was new then...I had a Tandy 1000 with a dot matrix printer the size of my condo, so...).

At first, Scalinger was critical of my pitch. And I can see why...another kid with a baseball cap pitching a sports movie. But I wasn't a jock or frat boy...I may have looked it, but I did my homework. We took a week break for Guilio to attend Sundance...where he saw Hoop Dreams.

He came back absolutely on fire for my project. Like I think he wanted me to make it. I was a Poly Sci kid at the time thinking I was going to law school and just had media interest. I had no idea I would some day be chewed up and spit out by that industry and wind up in risk management and implementations (does anyone choose to go into either?). I just wanted a good grade and an illegal cable box I could get from my partner if I did all the work.

Jelani McCoy's high school actually sent some info since it was the Arizona AD asking (this was before he committed). I wonder if they told him we were requesting bio info (that had to be a question mark since we were recruiting him...but recruiting was a bit more innocent in 1993 or whenever)...

That's it...my Jelani McCoy story.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:12 am

And over at 247 we are trending with both Lonnie Walker and Brandon McCoy with predictions from Jerry Meyer for both. I say the new uniforms are doing there JOB!!!!!

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