2017 recruits/commitment thread

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:17 pm

ALASKACAT wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Just to clarify your post: Sione Taufahema verbally committed to Arizona. http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... ly-commits" target="_blank

There's a big body. I'd lose another athlete and gain a 300lb DT anyday

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:38 pm

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:I might be the exception, but I never thought 2017 class was outstanding before the decommits. It was decent, better than last couple years, but not leaps better. I never bought into RR's "best class in UA history" rhetoric. How would he know anyway... Hyperbole to sell fans hope.

Every class has turnover. But this class is heading into trouble. Could see 3-4 more decommits. Still will be a decent class. But normal for RR, I'm guessing ranked low to mid 30's. Class still has many RR traditional recruits that hold Non-Power five or lower end power five offers.

Bingo... I never heard the "best class in UA history" quote, but IF he said that then he needs to take a drug test. It was marginally better than the last 2, but not even his best - and he has not exactly lit up the recruiting trail here.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:47 pm

whatisee wrote:
ALASKACAT wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Just to clarify your post: Sione Taufahema verbally committed to Arizona. http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... ly-commits" target="_blank
There's a big body. I'd lose another athlete and gain a 300lb DT anyday

I hope he turns out to be great, but let's try and keep it real.

He is a 2* 300 lb DT whose other offers included Hawaii, UMass, Northern IL, Arkansas Pine-Bluff, & Montana State. He was interested in Utah St but they had not offered. I think we have enough data to judge the effectiveness of the OKG recruiting strategy.

If you would trade a 4* athlete (with a ton of BCS offers including Alabama, Florida, Michigan, Notre Dame, USC, UCLA, Oregon, UW) for that profile - then be my guest... but you really are trying too hard.

We need a lot of help all over the roster (and that includes skill positions)... not warm bodies. We need the best talent we can get - period.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:46 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
whatisee wrote:
ALASKACAT wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Just to clarify your post: Sione Taufahema verbally committed to Arizona. http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... ly-commits" target="_blank
There's a big body. I'd lose another athlete and gain a 300lb DT anyday
If you would trade a 4* athlete (with a ton of BCS offers including Alabama, Florida, Michigan, Notre Dame, USC, UCLA, Oregon, UW) for that profile - then be my guest... but you really are trying too hard.

The dude we just lost was a 3* Athlete. Replaced with a large body with questionable offers.

Losing Johnson sucks, but Dixon gaining his 4th star makes that hurt a little less. What else?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:34 am

It's good to see that Yates offered Colin Schooler.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:13 am

whatisee wrote:We also added JC LB Delshawn Philips
http://247sports.com/Player/Delshawn-Phillips-36866" target="_blank

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:55 pm

Merkin wrote:
whatisee wrote:We also added JC LB Delshawn Philips
http://247sports.com/Player/Delshawn-Phillips-36866" target="_blank

Any word on all the JC guys signing today. I understand philips and Leo are probably flipping. But do we know if they have signed yet? I am not worried about big John staufahema

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:24 pm

3goggles wrote:
Merkin wrote:
whatisee wrote:We also added JC LB Delshawn Philips
http://247sports.com/Player/Delshawn-Phillips-36866" target="_blank

Any word on all the JC guys signing today. I understand philips and Leo are probably flipping. But do we know if they have signed yet? I am not worried about big John staufahema

He sign with Illinois. Matt Leo will problably sign with Oklahoma.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:30 pm

3goggles wrote:
Merkin wrote:
whatisee wrote:We also added JC LB Delshawn Philips
http://247sports.com/Player/Delshawn-Phillips-36866" target="_blank

Any word on all the JC guys signing today. I understand philips and Leo are probably flipping. But do we know if they have signed yet? I am not worried about big John staufahema

Philips officially signed with Illinois:

https://www.landof10.com/illinois/lovie ... o-illinois" target="_blank

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:41 pm

Leo to Iowa State

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:55 pm

Wow, I thought if he flipped it would be to Oklahoma. Project kid I have heard but had great size.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:30 pm

Tony Fields signed his financial paperwork today, and Big Sione T. Defense +2

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:34 pm

People get excited about recruits? Bah, I can't. Sherrif Williams and the 4 Star LB flops have destroyed that for me.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:47 pm

Wow, so we lose 2 more JC commits today. In addition to the 2 recent HS decommits? The recruiting turnaround appears to be getting derailed...

I hope whatisee's exuberance over signing Big Sione T is warranted... is he our next 2-star Scoob?

Tony Fields has a few decent offers... glad we kept him on board.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:01 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:Wow, so we lose 2 more JC commits today. In addition to the 2 recent HS decommits? The recruiting turnaround appears to be getting derailed...

I hope whatisee's exuberance over signing Big Sione T is warranted... is he our next 2-star Scoob?

Tony Fields has a few decent offers... glad we kept him on board.

Just trying to be positive instead of being a cunt for the next year. RR isn't going anywhere and the kids read these boards and your attitude, so someone has to be positive.

-4 recruits
+1 recruit since the news

Twitter reads like we let Leo go due to his inexperience.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:27 pm

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:16 pm

Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:51 pm

cordera89 wrote:Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.

So that makes 6 guys we lost... seems like we are losing more than we typically do, and earlier in the cycle - although I do not know if it feels this way every year and I just do not remember it.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:35 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.
So that makes 6 guys we lost... seems like we are losing more than we typically do, and earlier in the cycle - although I do not know if it feels this way every year and I just do not remember it.

I'm not worried about this decommitment. I worry about about losing Harris to CU.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:48 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.
So that makes 6 guys we lost... seems like we are losing more than we typically do, and earlier in the cycle - although I do not know if it feels this way every year and I just do not remember it.

I think it 5 we lost so far, Johnson, McNeal, Leo, Phillips and now Brand.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:52 pm

3goggles wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.
So that makes 6 guys we lost... seems like we are losing more than we typically do, and earlier in the cycle - although I do not know if it feels this way every year and I just do not remember it.
I'm not worried about this decommitment. I worry about about losing Harris to CU.

Harris and Faoliu are leaning tour decommitting. They question is when.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:31 pm

But this class that was going to be the best ever
.....LOL

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:56 pm

http://www.scout.com/college/arizona/20 ... -prospects" target="_blank

Regardless of the Decommits. What about all these other offers.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:37 am

cordera89 wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.
So that makes 6 guys we lost... seems like we are losing more than we typically do, and earlier in the cycle - although I do not know if it feels this way every year and I just do not remember it.
I think it 5 we lost so far, Johnson, McNeal, Leo, Phillips and now Brand.

From Ang's thread:

Decommitted (6)
Greg Johnson, Hawkins HS, Los Angeles, CA.
Elijah Watson, DT, Mountain View HS, Lawrenceville, GA.
Darrian McNeal, WR, Armwood HS, Seffner, FL.
Delshawn Philllips, LB, Garden City CC, KS, and Cass Technical HS, Detroit, MI.
Matt Leo, DE, Arizona Western College, Australia.
Bryce Brand, LB, IMG Academy, Bradenton, FL and Clayton Valley HS, Concord, CA.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:57 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.
So that makes 6 guys we lost... seems like we are losing more than we typically do, and earlier in the cycle - although I do not know if it feels this way every year and I just do not remember it.
I think it 5 we lost so far, Johnson, McNeal, Leo, Phillips and now Brand.
From Ang's thread:

Decommitted (6)
Greg Johnson, Hawkins HS, Los Angeles, CA.
Elijah Watson, DT, Mountain View HS, Lawrenceville, GA.
Darrian McNeal, WR, Armwood HS, Seffner, FL.
Delshawn Philllips, LB, Garden City CC, KS, and Cass Technical HS, Detroit, MI.
Matt Leo, DE, Arizona Western College, Australia.
Bryce Brand, LB, IMG Academy, Bradenton, FL and Clayton Valley HS, Concord, CA.

I wouldn't call it a decommit on Watson because the staff back off his commitment

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:43 pm

cordera89 wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Defensive End Bryce Brand Decommitted.
So that makes 6 guys we lost... seems like we are losing more than we typically do, and earlier in the cycle - although I do not know if it feels this way every year and I just do not remember it.
I think it 5 we lost so far, Johnson, McNeal, Leo, Phillips and now Brand.
From Ang's thread:

Decommitted (6)
Greg Johnson, Hawkins HS, Los Angeles, CA.
Elijah Watson, DT, Mountain View HS, Lawrenceville, GA.
Darrian McNeal, WR, Armwood HS, Seffner, FL.
Delshawn Philllips, LB, Garden City CC, KS, and Cass Technical HS, Detroit, MI.
Matt Leo, DE, Arizona Western College, Australia.
Bryce Brand, LB, IMG Academy, Bradenton, FL and Clayton Valley HS, Concord, CA.
I wouldn't call it a decommit on Watson because the staff back off his commitment

Not like he was a big loss either way.... I am sure we will replace him with more of the same.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:46 pm

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:00 pm

Who dat? Some dude wid a wooden leg and a hook on his foot??

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:42 pm

wyo-cat wrote:Who dat? Some dude wid a wooden leg and a hook on his foot??

http://www.scout.com/player/209127-tony-wallace?s=106" target="_blank Why don't you take a look.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:46 pm

cordera89 wrote:
wyo-cat wrote:Who dat? Some dude wid a wooden leg and a hook on his foot??
http://www.scout.com/player/209127-tony-wallace?s=106" target="_blank Why don't you take a look.

Has a couple decent offers, but a 2* on Rivals and 107th at his position on Scout.

This is more of the same...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:47 am

Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
wyo-cat wrote:Who dat? Some dude wid a wooden leg and a hook on his foot??
http://www.scout.com/player/209127-tony-wallace?s=106" target="_blank Why don't you take a look.
Has a couple decent offers, but a 2* on Rivals and 107th at his position on Scout.

This is more of the same...

I hope you weren't expecting 4 & 5 star kids to start looking at us now, because that's just setting yourself up for a world of disappointment.

The way it's supposed to go is you win with the team/recruits you have and then build upon that success by recruiting higher rated kids. RR & Co. flat out failed in that regard. They in no way capitalized off any of their past winning seasons and now that the on field results are going backward there is almost no way to get in on those higher rated kids (unless we go the Ol Miss route).

Lamenting the star rating or offer list of any kid that does commit seems like a waste of time. RR can only sign up the kids who are interested in us. So yeah, we'll be fighting Nevada and San Jose State for 2* kids this year. No way to get around it without blatantly cheating.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:14 am

I actually like what I saw on his tape he is pretty damn physical and runs a 4.4 we can only hope at this point

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:50 am

Tony Wallace is a desert rose. He does some things very well and has the speed to make up for a few mistakes. He's physical and knows where to be.

tgrumpy2 · Post by **tgrumpy2** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:16 am

chiefzona wrote:Tony Wallace is a desert rose. He does some things very well and has the speed to make up for a few mistakes. He's physical and knows where to be.

I'm marking this day on the calendar chief. You actually said something good about someone. LOL

catinfl · Post by **catinfl** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:47 pm

Wallace is a kid that sat out his junior year because he transferred from another school. A lot of that has to do with his ranking and I'm sure he will be a 3* by the end of the cycle. Same school as Tony Fields and walk-on chief material Edgar Burrolla. Athletic kid and not terrible offers.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:33 pm

wyo-cat wrote:Who dat? Some dude wid a wooden leg and a hook on his foot??

Nah man, his leg is carbon fiber..so fast!

wyo-cat - that post made me do a spit take with my coco puffs.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:06 am

AZ offers 2 star defensive tackle from LA. His other offers are Nevada and Hawaii

https://arizona.rivals.com/news/green-e ... aterialize" target="_blank

http://www.scout.com/player/202195-chri ... ?year=2016" target="_blank

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:13 am

dmjcat wrote:AZ offers 2 star defensive tackle from LA. His other offers are Nevada and Hawaii

https://arizona.rivals.com/news/green-e ... aterialize" target="_blank

http://www.scout.com/player/202195-chri ... ?year=2016" target="_blank

He left Mater Dei because Rollinson told him that he wouldn't start his senior year. So, he transferred and then Arizona offers.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:44 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
wyo-cat wrote:Who dat? Some dude wid a wooden leg and a hook on his foot??
http://www.scout.com/player/209127-tony-wallace?s=106" target="_blank Why don't you take a look.
Has a couple decent offers, but a 2* on Rivals and 107th at his position on Scout.

This is more of the same...

Fuckity

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:19 pm

Why the hell did he commit to us in the first place.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:52 pm

I am just excited one of our guys were actually offered by a 5 star program. Progress LOL

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:01 pm

azcat49 wrote:I am just excited one of our guys were actually offered by a 5 star program. Progress LOL

McNeal Oregon, Bryce Maryland, Phillips Illinois, Leo Iowa State, Wallace soon to be Trojan, Johnson soon to be Trojan or Husker, Harris will probably flip to The Buffs, All seem like power 5 teams to me.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:08 pm

Well I don't put any of those programs at 5 stars. Most of them are a lot like us with the exception of Oregon which is probably like a 4 star program

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:00 pm

Cleveland Browns of College Football.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:17 pm

Here's a big body we need to recruit:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sp ... &ocid=iehp" target="_blank

Starter on the line on both sides of the ball.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:43 pm

Arizona offer another Recruit Travell Harris:

Harris:http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... uit-mcneal

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:28 pm

Steady diet of 2 star players is what got us here

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:29 pm

azcat49 wrote:Steady diet of 2 star players is what got us here

Interest of the recruits is what Arizona going to get.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:01 pm

carcassdragger wrote:Here's a big body we need to recruit:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sp ... &ocid=iehp" target="_blank

Starter on the line on both sides of the ball.

I tell you this is the player we need to pull all stops out to recruit!! Would fit in perfect with the current state of this team!

Get on it RR!

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:07 pm

cordera89 wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Steady diet of 2 star players is what got us here
Interest of the recruits is what Arizona going to get.

A good coach and recruiter pulls bigger fish. Kind of like when you go fishing you catch bluegills and the pro fisherman pulls 5 pound bass. That analogy applies to RR

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