Byrne Could Be Leaving

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:34 pm

Byrne is in the mix for the new AD at Texas. The official search starts this spring and his name has been mentioned. The way it's looking now....good chance that he bolts soon. We shall see.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:39 pm

UT would be foolish not to look at him. Byrne would be foolish not to go to one of the premier ADs in the nation also.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:47 pm

If he were to leave, Texas is one of the crown jewels of the NCAA. He inherits a relatively new coach in hoops and a new coach in football, so he would likely not have to make a big hire for a while. If he were to leave AZ, RichRod would be in a much more precarious position; not only is he on the hot seat as it is, a new AD might want to bring in his own guy, and if you pull the trigger on that you need to do it before the retention installment kicks in.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:13 pm

azpenguin wrote:If he were to leave, Texas is one of the crown jewels of the NCAA. He inherits a relatively new coach in hoops and a new coach in football, so he would likely not have to make a big hire for a while. If he were to leave AZ, RichRod would be in a much more precarious position; not only is he on the hot seat as it is, a new AD might want to bring in his own guy, and if you pull the trigger on that you need to do it before the retention installment kicks in.

Very true. RR is gone after next season regardless of Byrne IMO. Good points though.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:21 pm

If I'm GB I'm gone given the state of the football program unfortunately.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:27 pm

Get out of dodge before you have to can the football coach you hired.

He has been good but I am not as sold on the job he has done as most are. Still, I couldn't think of a better candidate then him for UT

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:57 pm

Yup. Agree J.

Where do we go next? I don't even know where to begin an AD search.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:11 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Yup. Agree J.

Where do we go next? I don't even know where to begin an AD search.

For any searches do the opposite of ASSu.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:58 pm

Mark Harlan of USF. Arizona graduate, PAC-12 experience, Socal guy.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:06 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Yup. Agree J.

Where do we go next? I don't even know where to begin an AD search.

Hell I never even heard of Byrne let alone pegged him to replace Livengood.

The problem if Byrne leaves soon is that we have a lameduck university president in place, which is going to make hiring a competent AD difficult to say the least.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:59 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Mark Harlan of USF. Arizona graduate, PAC-12 experience, Socal guy.

I agree, he'd be first choice if we can't pull Chris del Conte. Worked with Mark in the '90s. Solid dude.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:06 pm

All of you need to slap yourself in the face to even begin on this rumor that byrnes might leave for Texas.

The question should be ask does Texas wants Byrnes as their AD.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:28 pm

cordera89 wrote:All of you need to slap yourself in the face to even begin on this rumor that byrnes might leave for Texas.

The question should be ask does Texas wants Byrnes as their AD.

Well, their color is Byrne-t Orangjes

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:55 pm

cordera89 wrote:All of you need to slap yourself in the face to even begin on this rumor that byrnes might leave for Texas.

The question should be ask does Texas wants Byrnes as their AD.

Regardless of your other issues with the English language, I think the slaps should be administered to you until you can spell the last name of Arizona's athletic director like it's not the plural noun you seem to think it is.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:25 am

catgrad97 wrote:
cordera89 wrote:All of you need to slap yourself in the face to even begin on this rumor that byrnes might leave for Texas.

The question should be ask does Texas wants Byrnes as their AD.
Regardless of your other issues with the English language, I think the slaps should be administered to you until you can spell the last name of Arizona's athletic director like it's not the plural noun you seem to think it is.

Don't Know, Don't Care. You can sit here and tell me that same ole story, it will never get old. As i said you and rest need to slap yourself in the face if you believe that Byrne need to take the Texas AD job and get the hell out of Arizona because I'm not buying it one bit that Texas is of any interest in Byrne being their AD.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:47 am

Why not?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:44 am

Seems to be two trains of thought going on for Cordera. Byrne(s) doesn't need to take the Texas job and Texas wouldn't be interested in Byrne(s).

While I'm not going to slap myself in the face, I will however chuckle to myself at the confidence with which Cordera makes these assertions. As if Texas would have no interest in a young energetic guy with a fantastic resume, and that Byrne would have no interest in leaving behind the dumpster fire that is UA football to resurrect the legacy of a true blue blood college sports program.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:28 am

MrBug708 wrote:Mark Harlan of USF. Arizona graduate, PAC-12 experience, Socal guy.

Excellent choice, drank many a beer with Harlo back in the day and the guy bleeds red & blue!

We would have a formidable defense finally if this were to pan out. Desert Swarm was just starting to take off shortly after Mark graduated. The close bond to DT and his family Mark shares would lead me to believe this would be a huge priority.

I like it!

RazorsEdgeAZ · Post by **RazorsEdgeAZ** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:53 am

Not just Texas. New Tennessee President seems to be trying to talk to Byrne about that AD spot opening up. Fully expect Byrne to leave at some point. Think he and his wife has some strong bonds with the Millers' though. Always thought to an extent Byrne would find a spot he could land at that he could eventually get Sean Miller to consider as well. Their contract term and vesting are the same. Longevity Fund payout date also the same for Miller and Byrne (different than RR)

Financially there's some gap between AD salaries at Texas and UA. But not that much if at all if you include Longevity Fund. Always thought Byrne crafted his contract to be here until Kid(s) graduated from UA. Then would be time to leave.

Texas AD reportedly made $1.175 millon. Very little bonus structure. Byrne makes $700K with much larger potential bonus structure. Byrne (or Miller) doesn't receive any partial payout from longevity fund until May 2020. Zip if he leaves on his own prior to that date.

Right now Byrne (and Miller) are 2/3rds vested in Fund. Byrne (and Miller) both earn being 100% vested in Fund THIS June 1st 2017.

On May 31st 2020 Both Byrne and Miller would get a full fund cash payout. Right now with Oil so low, the Fund value for Byrne is $2 million.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:38 am

I believe that Byrne has shown that he is not a highly skilled negotiator (Nike deal, Arizona constantly getting shafted by the PAC-12 in favor of other schools, and RR's contract) but he is good at raising booster involvement.

Texas has a reputation of throwing their weight around and taking no compromises with the BIG 12 and their network. I don't think Byrne would be a good fit at Texas.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:42 am

That does it, Byrne to UT is a done deal.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:44 am

Does UT have an opening? From what I can gather, their AD is under contract for another 1.5 years.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:44 pm

Texas is a high risk, high reward place. Reward is unlmited resources that could convert into big success. Risk is hundreds of big money donors with no patience who want to get their hands in the pot.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:53 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Texas is a high risk, high reward place. Reward is unlmited resources that could convert into big success. Risk is hundreds of big money donors with no patience who want to get their hands in the pot.

I could be counting wrong but I think Texas has had 9 ADs in 100 years.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:59 pm

wyo-cat wrote:Does UT have an opening? From what I can gather, their AD is under contract for another 1.5 years.

I imagine in this case, UT is Tennessee, not Texas. I thought Mike Perrin at Texas was just interim, but looking it up he was made permanent.

KNOXVILLE (WATE) – The University of Tennessee announced Thursday that Athletic Director Dave Hart is retiring. The university said Hart's retirement was his decision and will be effective June 30, 2017, 14 months before his contract his up. Hart has served in the position since 2011.Aug 18, 2016

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:33 pm

wyo-cat wrote:Does UT have an opening? From what I can gather, their AD is under contract for another 1.5 years.

Texas doesn't have a men's AD right now. Mike Perrin left his law practice in Houston to serve as AD on an interim basis. I would suspect they will target someone with significant experience in a $100M+ facilities upgrade. New basketball arena is coming along with significant football upgrades.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:58 pm

Salty wrote:I believe that Byrne has shown that he is not a highly skilled negotiator (Nike deal, Arizona constantly getting shafted by the PAC-12 in favor of other schools, and RR's contract) but he is good at raising booster involvement.

Texas has a reputation of throwing their weight around and taking no compromises with the BIG 12 and their network. I don't think Byrne would be a good fit at Texas.

If you are talking about TV scheduling - we get shafted because we suck.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:16 pm

we suck in basketball?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:30 pm

azcat49 wrote:Get out of dodge before you have to can the football coach you hired.

He has been good but I am not as sold on the job he has done as most are. Still, I couldn't think of a better candidate then him for UT

This is where I am parked.

Great Baseball hire (A).... mis-stepped with Miller early but recovered (B-)... Took an understandable chance with the FB hire (C+) but Completely screwed his contract & retention bonus acceleration (D-).

I am happy with him and think he is a great guy... but he does not walk on water.

He is the 2nd best AD we have had... will be very tough to top what Ced Dempsey did for our A.D. Complete Stud.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:32 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:we suck in basketball?

Obviously not... I notice it in FB but considering P12 BB play started last week, I am not sure how this season looks.

Clearly I need to get more up to speed on all of the Anti-UA agendas underway against all UA athletic programs.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:35 pm

There are other things ADs do besides hire coaches and negotiate their contracts. For example, does anyone remember what fan base/alumni/student communication from the AD was like under Livengood?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:51 pm

Number one job of ADs now is fundraising. Everything else is secondary.

Winning obviously helps fundraising.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:59 pm

GB is the consummate fundraiser. That is his element.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:11 am

I really like the guy... I am not trying to slam him.

But to suggest he is an A+ All-star, then he better do everything right... hiring coaches / negotiate contracts is a BIG part of his job, and his track record here is a mixed bag.

I do not discount at all the other important things he does well... not the least of which is represent the University.

I found Livengood embarrassing... quite the contrary with Byrne. Very impressive dude.

PS - We will never know, but I really hope he had a "big boy talk" with RR last year after he flirted with every whore program that would talk to him. After how he has backed Rich Rod, that bullshit should have pissed him off more than anyone else.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:31 am

ASUHATER! wrote:we suck in basketball?

Football rules everything when it comes to media rights. Remember the Pac-16 that almost happened, and the other proposed realignments? Basketball didn't matter a whit.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:28 am

yeah because college basketball is nowhere near as popular as it was even 15 years ago now. outside of the rights to the NCAA tournament....rights for college basketball tv don't matter a lot.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:44 am

It's been a few years, but Byrne was brought in to maximize football dollars.

At the time it was said the college basketball is maxed out financially, and future AD dollars will have to come from football.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:02 am

Merkin wrote:It's been a few years, but Byrne was brought in to maximize football dollars.

At the time it was said the college basketball is maxed out financially, and future AD dollars will have to come from football.

Bingo. The problem is that football attendance and revenue is dwindling under RR. That is what GB is faced with. I think that if GB is here after next football season, RR is canned for sure.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:28 am

As much as our fans cry about wanting excitement in the offense we seem to be more appreciative of good defense. Stoops was terrible but people still bought tickets because they believed in his defense.

I was disappointed PJ Fleck was scooped up by Minnesota as I think he would have been great here given some time

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:29 am

ASUHATER! wrote:yeah because college basketball is nowhere near as popular as it was even 15 years ago now. outside of the rights to the NCAA tournament....rights for college basketball tv don't matter a lot.

Funny you point that out. Front of the sports page in the Salt Lake Tribune was not the Utes basketball game last night but rather an article on the QB's and their development

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:33 am

Kentucky makes more from their crappy football program than they do with their elite basketball program.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:41 am

Merkin wrote:Kentucky makes more from their crappy football program than they do with their elite basketball program.

I never would have guessed.

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2012/9/18/335 ... r-football" target="_blank

The 2012-13 athletic budget approved in the summer by the UK Board of Trustees shows that football is slated to produce $27.6 million in revenue while spending $9.5 million — for a profit of $18.1 million.

By comparison, men’s basketball, even coming off a national championship, is projected to produce $20.8 million in revenue, while spending $12.6 million — for an $8.2 million profit.

Those are the only two profitable programs for the university. The other 20 sports lose a combined $11.6 million, according to the 2012-13 budget.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:10 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Mark Harlan of USF. Arizona graduate, PAC-12 experience, Socal guy.
I agree, he'd be first choice if we can't pull Chris del Conte. Worked with Mark in the '90s. Solid dude.

Guerrero gave him control on the basketball search. He pulled the ultimate troll job and got DG to sign off on Alford. Deeper sleeper move

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:14 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Mark Harlan of USF. Arizona graduate, PAC-12 experience, Socal guy.
I agree, he'd be first choice if we can't pull Chris del Conte. Worked with Mark in the '90s. Solid dude.
Guerrero gave him control on the basketball search. He pulled the ultimate troll job and got DG to sign off on Alford. Deeper sleeper move

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:31 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Texas is a high risk, high reward place. Reward is unlmited resources that could convert into big success. Risk is hundreds of big money donors with no patience who want to get their hands in the pot.
I could be counting wrong but I think Texas has had 9 ADs in 100 years.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... ut-us-hell" target="_blank

Dodds was there for a long time and was very popular. The article above shows how things can turn if the boosters don't like someone.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:09 pm

Welp. Roll Tide.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:32 pm

So who's in charge of the new AD hire, the President AWH? How does that work? I'm not really up to speed on her, but it seems folks on the boards are low on her. This is suddenly a new era in the making. I hope somebody gets it right.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:01 pm

Wow dashing out before taking care of the RR situation?

Hmmmm.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:05 pm

SCCats wrote:Wow dashing out before taking care of the RR situation?

Hmmmm.

There's nothing to do as far as RR. That shit just has to play itself out.

Just be thankful he didn't extend RR before heading off to Bama.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:21 pm

Agreed. Plus you really can't blame the guy for taking the Alabama job.

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