UCLA Basketball in trouble!

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:25 pm

Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Wonder what Steve thinks about Ball putting his son ahead of the good of the team?
Well that's basically what Steve's done himself, right?
What can Steve say or do at this point?
Was moreso talking about Steve putting his son in games where he can't play defense, or offense.

Oh I know. He's lost any leverage he has. He's basically starting over next year with quite possibly just Thomas Welsh. The team is playing for themselves. The coach and his son believe he's an NBA player, you have a player who really hates the coach, you have two guys who are NBA lottery picks and trying to refine that part of their game but in an individual way, and you have a guy who is at the last part of his eligibility and is trying to show that he can have a role in the NBA. The coach can't do anything about it because he's allowed Bryce to manifest into what the team is and a lack of accountability has spread throughout the team. He can't sit Lonzo. He can't sit Leaf. He can only sit one of Holiday, IHam, and Bryce at any one time.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:29 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Wonder what Steve thinks about Ball putting his son ahead of the good of the team?
Well that's basically what Steve's done himself, right?
What can Steve say or do at this point?
Was moreso talking about Steve putting his son in games where he can't play defense, or offense.
Oh I know. He's lost any leverage he has. He's basically starting over next year with quite possibly just Thomas Welsh. The team is playing for themselves. The coach and his son believe he's an NBA player, you have a player who really hates the coach, you have two guys who are NBA lottery picks and trying to refine that part of their game but in an individual way, and you have a guy who is at the last part of his eligibility and is trying to show that he can have a role in the NBA. The coach can't do anything about it because he's allowed Bryce to manifest into what the team is and a lack of accountability has spread throughout the team. He can't sit Lonzo. He can't sit Leaf. He can only sit one of Holiday, IHam, and Bryce at any one time.

So how are fans feeling? I know my friend, an alum was happy earlier in the year when things are going great I haven't had a chance to talk to him after the Arizona game ...are the fire Alford threads back elsewhere?

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:31 pm

Btw. In my opinion Holiday>>>>>>Alford. At least when he's not doing behind the back passes in the lane,down 10

BigSkyCatinMT · Post by **BigSkyCatinMT** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:35 pm

Speaking of Plashke, his tweets during the UCLA game - from how stunned Arizona is by UCLA's Athleticism??? Til reality set in.

https://twitter.com/billplaschke" target="_blank

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:46 pm

BigSkyCatinMT wrote:Speaking of Plashke, his tweets during the UCLA game - from how stunned Arizona is by UCLA's Athleticism??? Til reality set in.

https://twitter.com/billplaschke" target="_blank

He also mentions attendance. Amazing what Arizona can do for that.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:59 pm

So how are fans feeling? I know my friend, an alum was happy earlier in the year when things are going great I haven't had a chance to talk to him after the Arizona game ...are the fire Alford threads back elsewhere?

I don't think they were truly gone, but winning quiets critics. 19-3 isn't anything to sneeze at but we are already out of the race in the PAC 12

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:03 pm

MrBug708 wrote:19-3 isn't anything to sneeze at but we are already out of the race in the PAC 12

Says how many past conference seasons at this point in the race?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:20 am

MrMeow wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
baconus66 wrote:"overated" is the worst chant in sports
According to L.A. times columnist, Bill Plaschke, it's, "U of A".
Can you please link to where he said/wrote this?
I don't know how to access it, but it was in his column right after we beat UCLA. Sunday's L.A. Times. I'm pretty sure it was Plaschke. It was definitely in that issue. Caught my attention because I love hearing that chant ... anywhere.

http://www.beardownwildcats.com/viewtop ... 50#p233926" target="_blank

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:51 pm

MrMeow wrote:
BigSkyCatinMT wrote:Speaking of Plashke, his tweets during the UCLA game - from how stunned Arizona is by UCLA's Athleticism??? Til reality set in.

https://twitter.com/billplaschke" target="_blank
He also mentions attendance. Amazing what Arizona can do for that.

That attendance tweet is funny. He acts like it is the new year. That's a crowd they get for Arizona and no one else.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:23 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
BigSkyCatinMT wrote:Speaking of Plashke, his tweets during the UCLA game - from how stunned Arizona is by UCLA's Athleticism??? Til reality set in.

https://twitter.com/billplaschke" target="_blank
He also mentions attendance. Amazing what Arizona can do for that.
That attendance tweet is funny. He acts like it is the new year. That's a crowd they get for Arizona and no one else.

USC outdrew Arizona in Pauley last year.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:40 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
BigSkyCatinMT wrote:Speaking of Plashke, his tweets during the UCLA game - from how stunned Arizona is by UCLA's Athleticism??? Til reality set in.

https://twitter.com/billplaschke" target="_blank
He also mentions attendance. Amazing what Arizona can do for that.
That attendance tweet is funny. He acts like it is the new year. That's a crowd they get for Arizona and no one else.
USC outdrew Arizona in Pauley last year.

By how much?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:46 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
BigSkyCatinMT wrote:Speaking of Plashke, his tweets during the UCLA game - from how stunned Arizona is by UCLA's Athleticism??? Til reality set in.

https://twitter.com/billplaschke" target="_blank
He also mentions attendance. Amazing what Arizona can do for that.
That attendance tweet is funny. He acts like it is the new year. That's a crowd they get for Arizona and no one else.
USC outdrew Arizona in Pauley last year.
By how much?

like 900 people

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:51 pm

dunno if the conf title is out of reach for the bruins, but alfor could easiily atone by winning the pac-12 tourney and earning a nice seed. it'll piss me off if it happens, though the selection committee did reiterate that conf tournaments will carry the same weight as conf titles.

not sure if loball has tourney legs, tho. season weardown is taking its toll.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:55 pm

dirtbags wrote:dunno if the conf title is out of reach for the bruins, but alfor could easiily atone by winning the pac-12 tourney and earning a nice seed. it'll piss me off if it happens, though the selection committee did reiterate that conf tournaments will carry the same weight as conf titles.

not sure if loball has tourney legs, tho. season weardown is taking its toll.

Not a chance this team can win 3 games in three days

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:14 am

looks like vegas has higher hopes for the bruins - ucla's still highly favored to bring home a trophy

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:28 am

dirtbags wrote:looks like vegas has higher hopes for the bruins - ucla's still highly favored to bring home a trophy

So does that mean I could bet against UCLA winning and make $0.33 on the dollar? That would be pretty appealing.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:48 am

MrBug708 wrote:
dirtbags wrote:dunno if the conf title is out of reach for the bruins, but alfor could easiily atone by winning the pac-12 tourney and earning a nice seed. it'll piss me off if it happens, though the selection committee did reiterate that conf tournaments will carry the same weight as conf titles.

not sure if loball has tourney legs, tho. season weardown is taking its toll.
Not a chance this team can win 3 games in three days

I think there's definitely a chance. If the shooters are hot they can definitely take them to a title.

But if I was going to bet, since I like longshots, my money would be on Washington getting going at the right time, Fultz going HAM, them screwing over whoever is the PAC bubble team (Cal/Utah), and saving Romar's job.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:56 pm

92 points for Melo

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:22 am

MrBug708 wrote:92 points for Melo

https://youtu.be/Dvn4hK6VIxE" target="_blank

I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:34 am

On Saturday my son took 6 shots in a YMCA game and told me he felt like a ball hog. I wonder how he would feel taking 61 shots.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:27 am

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:55 am

Dave wrote:On Saturday my son took 6 shots in a YMCA game and told me he felt like a ball hog. I wonder how he would feel taking 61 shots.

Kobe!

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:50 pm

He literally had 40 points off cherry picking and never got back on defense. Good coaching and another great recruit for Alford. He'll fit right in!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:19 pm

Jefe wrote:He literally had 40 points off cherry picking and never got back on defense. Good coaching and another great recruit for Alford. He'll fit right in!

He'd get his ass kicked in rec ball doing that.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:26 pm

Lol. What a loser.

Perfect for Alfred. Do not want.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:41 pm

I scored 96 points in pop-a-shot once.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:53 pm

one time playing ncaa football 09 i played as #1 ohio state and i threw for like 800 yards and 12 tds in 1 game against the computer.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:17 pm

what a turd

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:35 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:92 points for Melo
https://youtu.be/Dvn4hK6VIxE" target="_blank

I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.

Absolutely. But that style has yielded one loss in the last 60 games so it's working on that level.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:48 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:92 points for Melo
https://youtu.be/Dvn4hK6VIxE" target="_blank

I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.
Absolutely. But that style has yielded one loss in the last 60 games so it's working on that level.

Yeah, I know. I've seen Chino Hills play. That whole jack half courters and cherry pick and leave your team to play 5 on 4 on D, that doesn't work half as well in college.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:10 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:92 points for Melo
https://youtu.be/Dvn4hK6VIxE" target="_blank

I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.
Absolutely. But that style has yielded one loss in the last 60 games so it's working on that level.

Cool story bro.

He doesn't even play like there is love for the game. He'll flame out in college.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:16 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Lol. What a loser.

Perfect for Alfred. Do not want.

Seriously. How does a coach not bench him for that crap?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:03 pm

Dave wrote:On Saturday my son took 6 shots in a YMCA game and told me he felt like a ball hog. I wonder how he would feel taking 61 shots.

Chucker

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:30 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:92 points for Melo
https://youtu.be/Dvn4hK6VIxE" target="_blank

I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.
Absolutely. But that style has yielded one loss in the last 60 games so it's working on that level.
Cool story bro.

He doesn't even play like there is love for the game. He'll flame out in college.

Cool story bro? You're better than this. Lol

I do wonder re: brothers love of the game. We might have to wait for the tell all book after one of them kills their dad for talking one too many times.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:46 pm

Thats when u tell your biggest player to hang back and tell him to put his skinny ass on the floor

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:46 am

I doubt somebody goes all John Cheney on another player

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:30 am

Do us a solid tonight Bug

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:18 pm

For real

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:14 pm

Please. For once let ucla play a team as strong as they play Arizona.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:18 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Please. For once let ucla play a team as strong as they play Arizona.

Pipe dream

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:02 pm

Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:49 pm

PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.

It's a nice thing for fans to say. If ucla plays oregon like we played Arizona, we are gonna lose by double digits

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:52 pm

I love that Oregon gets SC on the tail of the trip. That is gonna be a tough couple of games.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:24 pm

MrBug708 wrote:I doubt somebody goes all John Cheney on another player

For that, you'd be surprised. I played with several guys who would have take it upon themselves before the coach would have even had to ask. I'm more shocked it was allowed to happen to that degree and nothing was done

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:12 pm

PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.

It goes back to the tail end of Howland and through Alford. It is just a joke, obviously, but you seriously don't identify with it? In an Arizona v. UCLA game, it's just, "Man, these guys are good, so well-coached, and really, really tough." And then you watch them two days later against ASU and they don't know how to take care of the ball, get out of the way on rebounds, enable every back door cut by ignoring defensive assignments, and lose by double digits. And then the same against Oregon State the following week. Then you play them in Vegas and it's all, "HE TOUCHED THE BALL! HE TOUCHED THE BALL!"

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:18 pm

Oregon only showed up 45 minutes before the game started. Still waiting for ucla

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:39 pm

It's going to be pretty humorous when this UCLA team finishes 13-5 or 12-6 in conference

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:54 pm

Longhorned wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.
It goes back to the tail end of Howland and through Alford. It is just a joke, obviously, but you seriously don't identify with it? In an Arizona v. UCLA game, it's just, "Man, these guys are good, so well-coached, and really, really tough." And then you watch them two days later against ASU and they don't know how to take care of the ball, get out of the way on rebounds, enable every back door cut by ignoring defensive assignments, and lose by double digits. And then the same against Oregon State the following week. Then you play them in Vegas and it's all, "HE TOUCHED THE BALL! HE TOUCHED THE BALL!"

I really dont. And ucla was the 1 seed and UA was the 4 in that game.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:14 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.
It goes back to the tail end of Howland and through Alford. It is just a joke, obviously, but you seriously don't identify with it? In an Arizona v. UCLA game, it's just, "Man, these guys are good, so well-coached, and really, really tough." And then you watch them two days later against ASU and they don't know how to take care of the ball, get out of the way on rebounds, enable every back door cut by ignoring defensive assignments, and lose by double digits. And then the same against Oregon State the following week. Then you play them in Vegas and it's all, "HE TOUCHED THE BALL! HE TOUCHED THE BALL!"
I really dont. And ucla was the 1 seed and UA was the 4 in that game.

Now just you hold on right there. Arizona was ranked higher than UCLA going into that game, had better wins, and the seed difference resulted from 1 game separation in conference. How did that come about? By beating Arizona twice. After beating us at McKale, they got blown out at ASU by 18 points. They beat us 3 times in 1 season, and then what? They got pummeled by Oregon the next game, and looked bad while getting eliminated. That's totally the pattern we're talking about.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:00 pm

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