let's talk '15

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:16 pm

It seems infrequent that guys will pull the trigger right after an in home, especially when they've got other in homes lined up with sexy programs. It's like they want to soak up all the love and hospitality possible, even when they've known for months where they're going.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:16 am

Beachcat97 wrote:It seems infrequent that guys will pull the trigger right after an in home, especially when they've got other in homes lined up with sexy programs. It's like they want to soak up all the love and hospitality possible, even when they've known for months where they're going.

Zimms mom is a huge fan of Book!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:23 am

I believe Comanche is visiting this weekend.
On 1290 the other day Scheer said he wouldn't be surprised if he committed.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:20 am

UAEebs86 wrote:I believe Comanche is visiting this weekend.
On 1290 the other day Scheer said he wouldn't be surprised if he committed.

NICE!

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:04 am

Wouldn't be surprised either.

Rabb and/or Zimmermann, however, is not going to be a fall verbal IMHO.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:06 am

Rabb falling.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/baske ... order/true

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:24 am

catgrad97 wrote:Wouldn't be surprised either.

Rabb and/or Zimmermann, however, is not going to be a fall verbal IMHO.

catgrad97, do you have some specific info on Zimmerman's intent re timing?

I can see IR holding out to his oft repeated date of Spring 2015, but I wonder about Zimm. I feel Coach is pursuing a risk management strategy re IR; hence, opening the Bragg door nice and wide and strengthening our pursuit of Zimm. It feels like if we could lock Zimm in the Fall we'd happily snap him up and call it a day.

Zimm's a true C and has a promising future, witness his sweet performance during the USA U18 team's 5 game run. He shot beautifully(.636avg.) largely from mid range, and amped the team with his passing every time he was in. His Scoring average was 8.8 pts and he pulled 6.2 boards averaging 15 minutes PT.

A knock on Zimmerman is body strength which probably can be improved significantly this year and in the future with Cat regimen.

Rabb's timing strategy is unrealistic. A Cal can afford to wait. Arizona, with a terrific '15 recruiting start and top 10 probability can't afford to wait. I feel if IR sticks with his date and we can get a Fall commit from a talent like Zimm we should snap him up and move on with our '15 goal of being a strong NC contender.

The marginal difference between the potential of these two players versus taking the risk of coming up dry in the Spring-----how do you guys look at the calculus?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:57 pm

It's starting to seem like whoever commits first gets the 'ship. Rabb is and always has been Plan A, but Zimm is probably a close second, followed by Bragg. I think Coach would be very happy with any of these three. How many more scholarships do we have to offer for '15?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:18 pm

I just hope Miller knows how to enter a recruit's living room and really dominate a chair.

Airizona · Post by **Airizona** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:18 pm

I feel like it is a positive that Rabb is going to wait til the Spring to decide, especially because it sounds like he has been leaning toward other programs. I think that the combination of how impressive Arizona will be this year and that it is still relatively close to home for Rabb will tip the odds in our favor. If Martin has a good first year at Cal that could changes things

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:22 pm

Airizona wrote:I feel like it is a positive that Rabb is going to wait til the Spring to decide, especially because it sounds like he has been leaning toward other programs. I think that the combination of how impressive Arizona will be this year and that it is still relatively close to home for Rabb will tip the odds in our favor. If Martin has a good first year at Cal that could changes things

Man I hope we drop CAL by 50 each game!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:57 pm

EOCT wrote:
catgrad97 wrote: I can see IR holding out to his oft repeated date of Spring 2005, but I wonder about Zimm.

Would he take Marcus Williams', JP Prince's or Fendi's scholie?

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:14 pm

3goggles wrote:
Airizona wrote:I feel like it is a positive that Rabb is going to wait til the Spring to decide, especially because it sounds like he has been leaning toward other programs. I think that the combination of how impressive Arizona will be this year and that it is still relatively close to home for Rabb will tip the odds in our favor. If Martin has a good first year at Cal that could changes things
Man I hope we drop CAL by 50 each game!

Although Bash went down up at Cal last year, up at their place is always a tough one. Of course every team treats their games with us like its their super bowl...but...we are going to be mighty talented, massive, and experienced this season. Massive.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:03 am

Another website is "reporting" Comanche may be on the way.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:13 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another website is "reporting" Comanche may be on the way.

What Website? Come on man we need details!

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:17 am

3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another website is "reporting" Comanche may be on the way.
What Website? Come on man we need details!

PGU. For the record, this is because I have a Facebook friend who linked it. For all I know, this is another premature call like Victor that will actually hamper our efforts.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:40 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another website is "reporting" Comanche may be on the way.
What Website? Come on man we need details!
PGU. For the record, this is because I have a Facebook friend who linked it. For all I know, this is another premature call like Victor that will actually hamper our efforts.

You think Victor will end up hurting us?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:41 am

3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another website is "reporting" Comanche may be on the way.
What Website? Come on man we need details!
PGU. For the record, this is because I have a Facebook friend who linked it. For all I know, this is another premature call like Victor that will actually hamper our efforts.
You think Victor will end up hurting us?

No, Ace over at PGU.

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:14 am

Merkin wrote:
EOCT wrote:
catgrad97 wrote: I can see IR holding out to his oft repeated date of Spring 2005, but I wonder about Zimm.
Would he take Marcus Williams', JP Prince's or Fendi's scholie?

Excellent, Merk!

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:15 pm

3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another website is "reporting" Comanche may be on the way.
What Website? Come on man we need details!
PGU. For the record, this is because I have a Facebook friend who linked it. For all I know, this is another premature call like Victor that will actually hamper our efforts.
You think Victor will end up hurting us?

No, pgu prematurely tweeted Victor committing and the rumor was that Victor was mad and we had to overcome that to eventually land him. I think Victor has potential to be a rock solid 4 year guy we grow to love.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:55 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
3goggles wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Another website is "reporting" Comanche may be on the way.
What Website? Come on man we need details!
PGU. For the record, this is because I have a Facebook friend who linked it. For all I know, this is another premature call like Victor that will actually hamper our efforts.
You think Victor will end up hurting us?
No, pgu prematurely tweeted Victor committing and the rumor was that Victor was mad and we had to overcome that to eventually land him. I think Victor has potential to be a rock solid 4 year guy we grow to love.

Oh that makes sence!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:58 pm

Merkin wrote: No, Ace over at PGU.

I think Scheer mentioned either in Premium or on Twitter that Comanche might not leave without a commitment, so that's probably Ace's best source. Unless of course ElGatoBlanco came up with a new screen name.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:04 pm

Chicat wrote:
Merkin wrote: No, Ace over at PGU.
I think Scheer mentioned either in Premium or on Twitter that Comanche might not leave without a commitment, so that's probably Ace's best source. Unless of course ElGatoBlanco came up with a new screen name.

He said it on 1290 as well but Ace's followers keep paying for that premium info they are getting at PGU.

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:07 am

Package deal obsession lives, but interesting UK and KU are Top 2:

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:53 am

azcat34 wrote:Package deal obsession lives, but interesting UK and KU are Top 2:

I am tired of Zagoria. I am getting tired of Rabbs lack of interest in our program. To me his attidude is little all about me.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:36 pm

Current likely lineup:

Big men--Comanche/Ristic/ Anderson/Victor.

"Room for one more if you still wanna go to Aspen (insert Final Four site for Aspen as needed)."

Wings--Trier/Simon/Smith/Pitts/York/Allen.

Again we're crowded, and it would be really nice if someone was ready to play the 1 in this group, because...

Point-PJC

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:05 pm

What are the chances the Zues or BASH stay for there senior year?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:22 pm

3goggles wrote:What are the chances the Zues or BASH stay for there senior year?

I'm not an insider, but I'd think low. The most likely scenario (knock on wood this won't happen) is foot concerns dog Ashley and he wants to get a fully healthy year in to allay those concerns.

Beyond that, I think both are interested in the pros, won't see much bump from returning and are unlikely to stay.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:27 pm

3goggles wrote:What are the chances the Zues or BASH stay for there senior year?

I don't have any insider knowledge, but I would but do follow UA basketball very closely and would have to say the chance of either staying is pretty low assuming normal career progressions. However if either gets injured or does not progress as expected than maybe they will stay.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:31 pm

Losing 6 players minimum after this season...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:06 pm

azcat34 wrote:Package deal obsession lives, but interesting UK and KU are Top 2:

I seriously don't take one thing Zagoria says seriously.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:10 pm

yeah it seems like he's usually wrong from what i've seen.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:11 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Losing 6 players minimum after this season...

well at minimum we lose mcconnell and korcheck to graduation and johnson to the league. pretty good chance zeus, ashley and rhj go pro as well. could lose 7 if someone like pitts/allen/york decide to transfer or something.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:13 pm

Olsondogg wrote:Losing 6 players minimum after this season...

Wow,

who are the 6?

SJ
BAsh
Tarc
RJ
TJ

and I guess #6 would be the JC kid who grew up in Tucson Matt Korcheck?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:14 pm

3goggles wrote:
azcat34 wrote:Package deal obsession lives, but interesting UK and KU are Top 2:

I am tired of Zagoria. I am getting tired of Rabbs lack of interest in our program. To me his attidude is little all about me.

I am tired of recruits talking packages.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:33 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Losing 6 players minimum after this season...
well at minimum we lose mcconnell and korcheck to graduation and johnson to the league. pretty good chance zeus, ashley and rhj go pro as well. could lose 7 if someone like pitts/allen/york decide to transfer or something.

I think this is pretty much dead on. The logjam on the wing will be more than a 2014-15 phenomenon.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:55 pm

azcat49 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Losing 6 players minimum after this season...
Wow,

who are the 6?

SJ
BAsh
Tarc
RJ
TJ

and I guess #6 would be the JC kid who grew up in Tucson Matt Korcheck?

Yup. Plus we could have a transfer is my guess.

As for the current year, they are fighting for a spot in the 8 players that will get minutes, which is what Miller has told them. You can guess the starting five...and then three more spots really...

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:07 pm

97 where are you bud.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:25 pm

HiCat wrote:97 where are you bud.

Ace crossed the line, forced him to lay low

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:28 pm

I think Jon deserves a little breather, HC...

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:10 pm

HiCat wrote:97 where are you bud.

This.

No offense to anyone contributing but this thread is a shell of its former self without '97's insights.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:17 pm

On the Pac-12 network Don McLean just predicted that the Cats will go undefeated in league play.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:30 pm

azgreg wrote:On the Pac-12 network Don McLean just predicted that the Cats will go undefeated in league play.

Fuckin' McLean. He just said that to set the bar too high, and when the Cats don't do it then he can say Miller is a failure again.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:45 am

azgreg wrote:On the Pac-12 network Don McLean just predicted that the Cats will go undefeated in league play.

I actually think we are going to be undefeated in the regular season, just like we should have been last season. Only difference is that we were by far and away the best team in the country last year w/ Brash, this year we have at least 3 other teams that might be able to make that claim even if we go into the tourney undefeated.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:03 am

Merkin wrote:
azgreg wrote:On the Pac-12 network Don McLean just predicted that the Cats will go undefeated in league play.
Fuckin' McLean. He just said that to set the bar too high, and when the Cats don't do it then he can say Miller is a failure again.

Don McLean trying to hold anybody accountable for failure is funny.

As for the early departures, only holding out hope that Tarczewski will want to dominate the game at the 5 next season. It's a hope--and we'll need him if the inexplicable happens and Bragg, Rabb and Zimmermann all prima donna on this program and go elsewhere.

Johnson's a one-and-done, McConnell and Korcheck will have graduated, Rondae and Ashley will have blown up past the point of no return if they both can enjoy a healthy year.

Rooting for any of those three undergrads to stick around is pretty much rooting for injury at this point, which, if you're a Cats fan, is tantamount to treason.

Unless there's any possible circumstance that would get SJ to stay that I'm somehow missing...

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:03 pm

Merkin wrote:
azgreg wrote:On the Pac-12 network Don McLean just predicted that the Cats will go undefeated in league play.
Fuckin' McLean. He just said that to set the bar too high, and when the Cats don't do it then he can say Miller is a failure again.

He said Miller is a failure? Why, I oughta stomp him.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:05 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
Merkin wrote:
azgreg wrote:On the Pac-12 network Don McLean just predicted that the Cats will go undefeated in league play.
Fuckin' McLean. He just said that to set the bar too high, and when the Cats don't do it then he can say Miller is a failure again.
Don McLean trying to hold anybody accountable for failure is funny.

As for the early departures, only holding out hope that Tarczewski will want to dominate the game at the 5 next season. It's a hope--and we'll need him if the inexplicable happens and Bragg, Rabb and Zimmermann all prima donna on this program and go elsewhere.

Johnson's a one-and-done, McConnell and Korcheck will have graduated, Rondae and Ashley will have blown up past the point of no return if they both can enjoy a healthy year.

Rooting for any of those three undergrads to stick around is pretty much rooting for injury at this point, which, if you're a Cats fan, is tantamount to treason.

Unless there's any possible circumstance that would get SJ to stay that I'm somehow missing...

Injury?

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:13 pm

gumby wrote:Injury?

ban

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:39 pm

Merkin wrote:
azgreg wrote:On the Pac-12 network Don McLean just predicted that the Cats will go undefeated in league play.
Fuckin' McLean. He just said that to set the bar too high, and when the Cats don't do it then he can say Miller is a failure again.

He then went on to predict that Arizona would lose at Stanford.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:19 pm

Jefe wrote:
gumby wrote:Injury?
ban

No. Right Guard.

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