3 out of the last 5?

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:43 pm

Good God.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:09 pm

What is this all about?

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:31 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:What is this all about?

No UA players selected in 3 of the last 5 drafts??

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:48 pm

Gimmick teams get gimmick results.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:52 pm

dmjcat wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:What is this all about?
No UA players selected in 3 of the last 5 drafts??

Exactly. Damn, that's horrific.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:14 pm

The only player RR has had drafted in the top 4 rounds was Carey.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:08 am

Is this really a big deal. I wonder how many other P5 school didn't have a single player selected to NFL Draft.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:28 am

It think 8 P5 schools had no NFL picKS but 7 of then are basketball schools like Duke, Kansas and so on.

ASUHATER! wrote:The only player RR has had drafted in the top 4 rounds was Carey.

Who just happened to be a Stoops recruit. RR's 2 recruits drafted were both in the 200s.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:30 am

ASU only had their kicker drafted.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:34 am

cordera89 wrote:Is this really a big deal. I wonder how many other P5 school didn't have a single player selected to NFL Draft.

Yes, it's a big deal. Elite players don't go to schools who don't put players in the league.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:52 am

azgreg wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Is this really a big deal. I wonder how many other P5 school didn't have a single player selected to NFL Draft.
Yes, it's a big deal. Elite players don't go to schools who don't put players in the league.

It isn't big deal. 32 pro team selected the best players possible in the drafted and our players weren't selected not because they weren't good enough or weren't even look at. All players wont get drafted what part do we don't get.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:58 am

Pretty sure they weren't good enough.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:17 am

Poor recruiting, terrible development. This is going to be used against us on the recruiting trail. Just a terrible recipe for sustained success

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:54 am

RR is gonna leave us worse than Stoops.

Gimmicks are gimmicks

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon May 01, 2017 8:16 am

CalStateTempe wrote:RR is gonna leave us worse than Stoops.

Gimmicks are gimmicks

Stoops recruiting fell off the last couple years and we didn't have much talent..but I don't disagree with this. We may be in a worse spot everywhere except facilities when the next coach comes in.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon May 01, 2017 8:19 am

cordera89 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Is this really a big deal. I wonder how many other P5 school didn't have a single player selected to NFL Draft.
Yes, it's a big deal. Elite players don't go to schools who don't put players in the league.
It isn't big deal. 32 pro team selected the best players possible in the drafted and our players weren't selected not because they weren't good enough or weren't even look at. All players wont get drafted what part do we don't get.

It is a big deal. Try to fail less.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Mon May 01, 2017 10:23 am

cordera89 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Is this really a big deal. I wonder how many other P5 school didn't have a single player selected to NFL Draft.
Yes, it's a big deal. Elite players don't go to schools who don't put players in the league.
It isn't big deal. 32 pro team selected the best players possible in the drafted and our players weren't selected not because they weren't good enough or weren't even look at. All players wont get drafted what part do we don't get.

I... don't understand... what you are trying to say.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon May 01, 2017 10:58 am

RR is not going to get nfl caliber guys for the most part to play under him. We have known this though. So you have to get the hungry guys who want to try and try and at the least get to play a few more years and get a college education. Seems like that was happening then wasnt then was then back to now isnt.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Mon May 01, 2017 12:19 pm

Puerco wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
cordera89 wrote:Is this really a big deal. I wonder how many other P5 school didn't have a single player selected to NFL Draft.
Yes, it's a big deal. Elite players don't go to schools who don't put players in the league.
It isn't big deal. 32 pro team selected the best players possible in the drafted and our players weren't selected not because they weren't good enough or weren't even look at. All players wont get drafted what part do we don't get.
I... don't understand... what you are trying to say.

Don't push your luck because you do know what it Said's.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 12:47 pm

Terrible recruiting, player evaluations, and player development. But we've all known this for awhile, right?

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Mon May 01, 2017 2:08 pm

its a massively big deal and is awful from every angle -- those who dont recognize need to pull their head from their asses

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 3:13 pm

97cats wrote:its a massively big deal and is awful from every angle -- those who dont recognize need to pull their head from their asses

I hope you pull Scheer's head out of RR's ass. He's argued against me about all of this for years now. It's funny how true football people see it long before average fan catches up to it. Problem is that the football guys catch hell for it. Now all the RR backers have run away and refuse to apologize or give props to the ones who saw it all coming. Good to see you "down here" buddy.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 01, 2017 3:22 pm

chiefzona wrote:
97cats wrote:its a massively big deal and is awful from every angle -- those who dont recognize need to pull their head from their asses

I hope you pull Scheer's head out of RR's ass. He's argued against me about all of this for years now. It's funny how true football people see it long before average fan catches up to it. Problem is that the football guys catch hell for it. Now all the RR backers have run away and refuse to apologize or give props to the ones who saw it all coming. Good to see you "down here" buddy.

Who gives a rat's ass who saw it coming? You want a pat on the back go call your mother and have her make you feel good about yourself. It's her job not ours.

I agree it's a major problem and it's very indicative of the current state of our football program, but screw you if you want us to suck your dick for "calling it."

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 4:18 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
97cats wrote:its a massively big deal and is awful from every angle -- those who dont recognize need to pull their head from their asses

I hope you pull Scheer's head out of RR's ass. He's argued against me about all of this for years now. It's funny how true football people see it long before average fan catches up to it. Problem is that the football guys catch hell for it. Now all the RR backers have run away and refuse to apologize or give props to the ones who saw it all coming. Good to see you "down here" buddy.
Who gives a rat's ass who saw it coming? You want a pat on the back go call your mother and have her make you feel good about yourself. It's her job not ours.

I agree it's a major problem and it's very indicative of the current state of our football program, but screw you if you want us to suck your dick for "calling it."

Eh...,you didn't get it. Nice anger though. I like those posts. It's more about Jason's loss of credibility. Wildcat Authority has lost a lot of premium members due to false projections, predictions and evaluations that should have never been done by a non-football guy. Then to slam paying members for being right all along was bad. He pissed a lot of people off. I Ike him but there's nothing that can be done at this point. Thanks for your emotional post though.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon May 01, 2017 4:24 pm

You have for years tooted your own horn so dont pretend you dont and throw Scheer under the bus to do so. Strange you are not well liked.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 4:30 pm

PHXCATS wrote:You have for years tooted your own horn so dont pretend you dont and throw Scheer under the bus to do so. Strange you are not well liked.

No. I just say things when I hear things from guys I respect. I don't have to toot anything.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 01, 2017 4:50 pm

chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
97cats wrote:its a massively big deal and is awful from every angle -- those who dont recognize need to pull their head from their asses

I hope you pull Scheer's head out of RR's ass. He's argued against me about all of this for years now. It's funny how true football people see it long before average fan catches up to it. Problem is that the football guys catch hell for it. Now all the RR backers have run away and refuse to apologize or give props to the ones who saw it all coming. Good to see you "down here" buddy.
Who gives a rat's ass who saw it coming? You want a pat on the back go call your mother and have her make you feel good about yourself. It's her job not ours.

I agree it's a major problem and it's very indicative of the current state of our football program, but screw you if you want us to suck your dick for "calling it."

Eh...,you didn't get it. Nice anger though. I like those posts. It's more about Jason's loss of credibility. Wildcat Authority has lost a lot of premium members due to false projections, predictions and evaluations that should have never been done by a non-football guy. Then to slam paying members for being right all along was bad. He pissed a lot of people off. I Ike him but there's nothing that can be done at this point. Thanks for your emotional post though.

Yeah this is all about Scheer and not your ego....right.

Now all the RR backers have run away and refuse to apologize or give props to the ones who saw it all coming.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Mon May 01, 2017 4:57 pm

Chief has more paper thin defenses and arguments than the Cheeto in chief

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon May 01, 2017 4:59 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:

Haha. Yeah, well no one listened to me. Hilarious. Always late for the party.

For sure not a toot right?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 5:07 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
97cats wrote:its a massively big deal and is awful from every angle -- those who dont recognize need to pull their head from their asses

I hope you pull Scheer's head out of RR's ass. He's argued against me about all of this for years now. It's funny how true football people see it long before average fan catches up to it. Problem is that the football guys catch hell for it. Now all the RR backers have run away and refuse to apologize or give props to the ones who saw it all coming. Good to see you "down here" buddy.
Who gives a rat's ass who saw it coming? You want a pat on the back go call your mother and have her make you feel good about yourself. It's her job not ours.

I agree it's a major problem and it's very indicative of the current state of our football program, but screw you if you want us to suck your dick for "calling it."

Eh...,you didn't get it. Nice anger though. I like those posts. It's more about Jason's loss of credibility. Wildcat Authority has lost a lot of premium members due to false projections, predictions and evaluations that should have never been done by a non-football guy. Then to slam paying members for being right all along was bad. He pissed a lot of people off. I Ike him but there's nothing that can be done at this point. Thanks for your emotional post though.
Yeah this is all about Scheer and not your ego....right.

Now all the RR backers have run away and refuse to apologize or give props to the ones who saw it all coming.

Well, I think my words on the program and football speak for itself.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 5:24 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:

Haha. Yeah, well no one listened to me. Hilarious. Always late for the party.
For sure not a toot right?

That's a blast. So many people were wrong on Anu. Not this guy.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:06 pm

You know the thing that bothers me the most is on the surface everything RR does seems perfect and makes sense.

He comes in and says he wants to retire here, thanking GB and the fans of AZ in giving him a shot.

He make Carey an all American and then Wilson and makes a pedestrian QB look like an all PAC guy at times. He takes mediocre talent and goes to 4 bowls, a south title and 32 wins in 4 years.

But underneath everything is all the rot. He and Rita bitch and complain about his pay, they hate the schedule and them they have the wondering eye for other programs.

All while taking care of his I won't recruit cronies and berating the players in practice and turning over the roster faster then a flap jack turned at IHOP.

Then he recruits Yates and it looks like a genius move except we find out Yates needed out of Boise after many failed business deals.

I hope RR does enough this year to earn more time and see if he can be the guy to do big things. His rope is short and I am not sure they are all pulling it in the same direction. Going to be an interesting fall

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:11 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:Chief has more paper thin defenses and arguments than the Cheeto in chief

Prove it.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:43 pm

chiefzona wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:Chief has more paper thin defenses and arguments than the Cheeto in chief

Prove it.

Ah now we know you're in trouble when you say that.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:45 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:Chief has more paper thin defenses and arguments than the Cheeto in chief

Prove it.
Ah now we know you're in trouble when you say that.

Fake news.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 6:57 pm

azcat49 wrote:You know the thing that bothers me the most is on the surface everything RR does seems perfect and makes sense.

He comes in and says he wants to retire here, thanking GB and the fans of AZ in giving him a shot.

He make Carey an all American and then Wilson and makes a pedestrian QB look like an all PAC guy at times. He takes mediocre talent and goes to 4 bowls, a south title and 32 wins in 4 years.

But underneath everything is all the rot. He and Rita bitch and complain about his pay, they hate the schedule and them they have the wondering eye for other programs.

All while taking care of his I won't recruit cronies and berating the players in practice and turning over the roster faster then a flap jack turned at IHOP.

Then he recruits Yates and it looks like a genius move except we find out Yates needed out of Boise after many failed business deals.

I hope RR does enough this year to earn more time and see if he can be the guy to do big things. His rope is short and I am not sure they are all pulling it in the same direction. Going to be an interesting fall

You left out his affair.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:08 pm

No surprise here coming from Hansen, but hey, it's facts.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:19 pm

Merkin wrote:No surprise here coming from Hansen, but hey, it's facts.

My Uncle is the only journalist and local hack who covers or reports Arizona Football who has the balls to speak out against Rich Rod. The rest refuse to do it. They're scared of getting their meal tickets pulled. Funny shit.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:20 pm

azcat49 wrote:You know the thing that bothers me the most is on the surface everything RR does seems perfect and makes sense.

He comes in and says he wants to retire here, thanking GB and the fans of AZ in giving him a shot.

He make Carey an all American and then Wilson and makes a pedestrian QB look like an all PAC guy at times. He takes mediocre talent and goes to 4 bowls, a south title and 32 wins in 4 years.

But underneath everything is all the rot. He and Rita bitch and complain about his pay, they hate the schedule and them they have the wondering eye for other programs.

All while taking care of his I won't recruit cronies and berating the players in practice and turning over the roster faster then a flap jack turned at IHOP.

Then he recruits Yates and it looks like a genius move except we find out Yates needed out of Boise after many failed business deals.

I hope RR does enough this year to earn more time and see if he can be the guy to do big things. His rope is short and I am not sure they are all pulling it in the same direction. Going to be an interesting fall

From what I understand Heeke will give RR every opportunity to hold on to his job this season, which is probably why Chief already hates him lol.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:24 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:You know the thing that bothers me the most is on the surface everything RR does seems perfect and makes sense.

He comes in and says he wants to retire here, thanking GB and the fans of AZ in giving him a shot.

He make Carey an all American and then Wilson and makes a pedestrian QB look like an all PAC guy at times. He takes mediocre talent and goes to 4 bowls, a south title and 32 wins in 4 years.

But underneath everything is all the rot. He and Rita bitch and complain about his pay, they hate the schedule and them they have the wondering eye for other programs.

All while taking care of his I won't recruit cronies and berating the players in practice and turning over the roster faster then a flap jack turned at IHOP.

Then he recruits Yates and it looks like a genius move except we find out Yates needed out of Boise after many failed business deals.

I hope RR does enough this year to earn more time and see if he can be the guy to do big things. His rope is short and I am not sure they are all pulling it in the same direction. Going to be an interesting fall
From what I understand Heeke will give RR every opportunity to hold on to his job this season, which is probably why Chief already hates him lol.

I don't hate Heeke... it was just a bad hire. He likes the status quo and sucks at football hires. He has ZERO contacts. But hey.....I'm very early to the party.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:27 pm

chiefzona wrote: I don't hate Heeke... it was just a bad hire. He likes the status quo and sucks at football hires. He has ZERO contacts. But hey.....I'm very early to the party.

Don't think anyone thinks Heeke won the press conference. Very underwhelming hire after losing Byrne to Bama.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:27 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:No surprise here coming from Hansen, but hey, it's facts.

My Uncle is the only journalist and local hack who covers or reports Arizona Football who has the balls to speak out against Rich Rod. The rest refuse to do it. They're scared of getting their meal tickets pulled. Funny shit.

It's Arizona Football, there's no such thing as getting their meal tickets pulled. Only Arizona Basketball has that type of flack in Tucson.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:29 pm

chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:You know the thing that bothers me the most is on the surface everything RR does seems perfect and makes sense.

He comes in and says he wants to retire here, thanking GB and the fans of AZ in giving him a shot.

He make Carey an all American and then Wilson and makes a pedestrian QB look like an all PAC guy at times. He takes mediocre talent and goes to 4 bowls, a south title and 32 wins in 4 years.

But underneath everything is all the rot. He and Rita bitch and complain about his pay, they hate the schedule and them they have the wondering eye for other programs.

All while taking care of his I won't recruit cronies and berating the players in practice and turning over the roster faster then a flap jack turned at IHOP.

Then he recruits Yates and it looks like a genius move except we find out Yates needed out of Boise after many failed business deals.

I hope RR does enough this year to earn more time and see if he can be the guy to do big things. His rope is short and I am not sure they are all pulling it in the same direction. Going to be an interesting fall
From what I understand Heeke will give RR every opportunity to hold on to his job this season, which is probably why Chief already hates him lol.
I don't hate Heeke... it was just a bad hire. He likes the status quo and sucks at football hires. He has ZERO contacts. But hey.....I'm very early to the party.

On this one I'm actually with you 100%. I just don't think we could've done any better unfortunately. I've met the guy and I do like him as a person plenty, but I'm not sure as an AD. He certainly has the time to prove us wrong. Byrne wasn't the tell all be all when we hired him either, but he was young and ambitious and it showed in his work ethic.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 7:41 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:No surprise here coming from Hansen, but hey, it's facts.

My Uncle is the only journalist and local hack who covers or reports Arizona Football who has the balls to speak out against Rich Rod. The rest refuse to do it. They're scared of getting their meal tickets pulled. Funny shit.
It's Arizona Football, there's no such thing as getting their meal tickets pulled. Only Arizona Basketball has that type of flack in Tucson.

Arizona basketball has one NC and it was 20 years ago. I get what you're saying but the problem in our local journalism is called honesty.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon May 01, 2017 8:05 pm

chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:No surprise here coming from Hansen, but hey, it's facts.

My Uncle is the only journalist and local hack who covers or reports Arizona Football who has the balls to speak out against Rich Rod. The rest refuse to do it. They're scared of getting their meal tickets pulled. Funny shit.
It's Arizona Football, there's no such thing as getting their meal tickets pulled. Only Arizona Basketball has that type of flack in Tucson.

Arizona basketball has one NC and it was 20 years ago. I get what you're saying but the problem in our local journalism is called honesty.

If you think that matters you don't understand Tucson. Arizona Basketball and every thing else is bonus, especially football.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 8:53 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Merkin wrote:No surprise here coming from Hansen, but hey, it's facts.

My Uncle is the only journalist and local hack who covers or reports Arizona Football who has the balls to speak out against Rich Rod. The rest refuse to do it. They're scared of getting their meal tickets pulled. Funny shit.
It's Arizona Football, there's no such thing as getting their meal tickets pulled. Only Arizona Basketball has that type of flack in Tucson.

Arizona basketball has one NC and it was 20 years ago. I get what you're saying but the problem in our local journalism is called honesty.
If you think that matters you don't understand Tucson. Arizona Basketball and every thing else is bonus, especially football.

I live in Tucson and know the show. Tucson needs a sport's culture change. Priorities. Arizona is a softball school.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon May 01, 2017 9:31 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azcat49 wrote:You know the thing that bothers me the most is on the surface everything RR does seems perfect and makes sense.

He comes in and says he wants to retire here, thanking GB and the fans of AZ in giving him a shot.

He make Carey an all American and then Wilson and makes a pedestrian QB look like an all PAC guy at times. He takes mediocre talent and goes to 4 bowls, a south title and 32 wins in 4 years.

But underneath everything is all the rot. He and Rita bitch and complain about his pay, they hate the schedule and them they have the wondering eye for other programs.

All while taking care of his I won't recruit cronies and berating the players in practice and turning over the roster faster then a flap jack turned at IHOP.

Then he recruits Yates and it looks like a genius move except we find out Yates needed out of Boise after many failed business deals.

I hope RR does enough this year to earn more time and see if he can be the guy to do big things. His rope is short and I am not sure they are all pulling it in the same direction. Going to be an interesting fall
You left out his affair.

And the steroids in the program (why do you think they have so many injuries and don't mind smaller guys they can torque up)but some things need to stay below even the rot

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon May 01, 2017 9:37 pm

Lol chief saying Arizona is a softball school shows he knows jack shit about anything. But he sure does love jerking himself off on this board. Comments like that make me doubt he is even a fan or know where Tucson is on a map.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon May 01, 2017 9:44 pm

Come on Hater, didn't you know Michigan is a hockey school and Duke is a lacrosse school

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon May 01, 2017 9:58 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Lol chief saying Arizona is a softball school shows he knows jack shit about anything. But he sure does love jerking himself off on this board. Comments like that make me doubt he is even a fan or know where Tucson is on a map.

I live in Tucson. I know the game and see all the denial in the Arizona fan base. Mediocrity has reigned for far too long and excuses are made for it everyday. Sure, Arizona is a basketball school but let's not all fool ourselves. Even Florida has won two NCs within the 20 years Arizona has not and I still call them a football school. But I digress.....

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