Spaceman Spiff wrote:Russ Smith wrote:https://www.scribd.com/document/3599701 ... from_embed
Go to page 37. It's a PDF and I can't cut and paste from it but it very clearly states Sood was going to meet with TWO coaches from School 4(arizona). If you read the whole thing the undercover agent clearly states the first coach is Book, the other one point 75 says there was 2 phone calls between Sood and "another individual who was then an assistant coach at University 4." 4 is Arizona, they already named one of the coaches as Book, the other one is clearly Pasternak. The meeting took place in early march, he took the UCSB job in late March, so at the time of the meeting he was a UA assitant, at the time of the report he was an ex UA coach thus the wording "then" coach at #4.
The USA today story on this the day it broke had really nice graphics
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 705183001/" target="_blank
very clearly states player 6 and player 7 are "at Arizona" and that's a current player.
The Turpin stuff absolutely happened, to this day longtime UK fans hate him, even though he's now dead, because he got them on probation. Also, quoting Michael beasley on this as someone did is funny, did people forget that Beasley already admitted under oath this mom got like 150K to go to K State? The assistant who recruited him got the money from an agent and paid it to his mom, Beasley later changed agents, got sued by the agent, and the whole thing ended up in court where under oath he admitted he got money
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... nsas-state" target="_blank
Someone else said it clearly states they didn't get paid, what it says is Sood told them both coaches were "interested in definitely working with us but want to wait until after the tournament before engaging with Sood and CW1. So yeah they absolutely have Sood on tape saying both Book and Pasternak indicated they were willing to take bribes, they just wanted to wait until after the tournament is over. If you want to quibble that Pasternak wasn't involved because he may have left before he actually got paid, ok, but he clearly INTENDED to take the bribe.
Seriously, you're digging the hole deeper. You quote the interested with working with us, but the part about them not asking for anything is in the same paragraph, and ylu leave that out. Page 37 and 38 for those interested.
Player 6 and Player 7 are current Arizona players that Book says he can steer to Dawkins's company. There is no statement they were paid, just that Book was willing to try to funnel them to Dawkins.
Look, there is a lot to rip about Arizona, but you are straight wrong about your main points.
Actually I just posted the exact part you said I'm not posting, about Sood saying they haven't asked for anything yet but when the time comes they will. and again, this is AFTER he tells CW1 that both coaches made it clear they were interested in the deal absolutely, they just wanted to wait. If Pasternak wasn't involved why was Sood calling his cellphone right in the timeline Sood says this whole thing took place?
yes they're players Book was trying to steer to agents, that doesn't mean they weren't paid. Even on quinerly it's not clear to me how anybody knows how much money he was actually paid. Sood said Book said 15K to get him to commit, he didn't say all that money would go to Quinerly, in fact there's discussions in several of the complains where Dawkins tells coaches he doesn't care how they use the money, use it for recruits, take a vacation I don't care. So we have no idea if Book kept part of that 15K. But it also says that Book had already been "taking care of the recruit" which implies to me Book had already paid Quinerly money prior to the 15K thing happening.
In the part where they said we don't have to pay the one guy he's already been paid, to me that implies there is another player that has to be paid because he hasn't already been paid.
I'm not at all saying Arizona is any worse than anybody else is, I fully expect many other schools to get involved, including UCLA likely.
I don't know if Miller knew or not. The worst parts in this for miller are the part where Dawkisn says Miller wants Quinerly "Bad as f*ck" but it will take 15K to get him. He doesn't say Miller knew it was going to take 15K, but he doesn't say he didn't either, my guess is Miller is probably just fine there.
And the Nassir Little stuff where there was a bidding war between Miami and Arizona to get him. People are reporting Arizona offered him that money, to me it clearly suggesests a shoe company, Nike, did not Arizona. But that's also the case with Louisville and Bowen, nobody is saying Louisville paid him just that Adidas did. Te reason Pitino got in trouble there is he publicly admitted a shoe company exec called him up and asked him if he was interested in Bowen, he said yes. he said I didn't spend a dime on that recruitment he came to us. Given how highly rated Bowen was and how long Pitino has been doing this he HAD to know that was unusual. Miller had been on Little much longer so the situation is different but if Miami is being looked at by the FBI(and they say they are) over that bidding war, I would presume they're going to talk to arizona too. No proof Miller knew but just like everyone says about Pitino, it's awfully hard to be a huge control freak like Miller had no idea this was going on.