14 Khalil Tate (Aug 2017-Aug 2018)

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:57 am

College gameday segment on Tate at 8:08 am Pacific coming up.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:25 am

That was pretty cool...they like him alot. We need Wilson and Taylor to be effective today to free up Tate a little. We all know they'll try to make him pass his way down the field, so we'll see what happens

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:39 am

I think Tate's passing isn't being talked about nearly enough.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:24 am

Hope he shows the rest of the country something special tonight

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:54 am

If he plays well tonight and we somehow win this game, he will officially become a serious heisman contender

Go get em Tate!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:50 am

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:07 am

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:05 pm

Merkin wrote:

Crazy....i hope he plays lights out tonight

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:17 pm

Fuck yeah! #TheBigCat

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:03 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:07 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:

6 games

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:10 pm

Chicat wrote: 6 games

Isn't it like 5 games + 2 drives? Amazing

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:12 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:
Chicat wrote: 6 games
Isn't it like 5 games + 2 drives? Amazing

Ain’t it?

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:59 pm

Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
6 games

So who are the other PAC 12 QB that had ran for 1,000 yards in a season. Regardless of the 5 games stretch.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:01 am

Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Chicat wrote: 6 games
Isn't it like 5 games + 2 drives? Amazing
Ain’t it?

It 5 games, Colorado, UCLA, Cal, Washington State and USC.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:07 am

cordera89 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Chicat wrote: 6 games
Isn't it like 5 games + 2 drives? Amazing
Ain’t it?
It 5 games, Colorado, UCLA, Cal, Washington State and USC.

Tate played in 7 games this season.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:14 am

azgreg wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Chicat wrote: 6 games
Isn't it like 5 games + 2 drives? Amazing
Ain’t it?
It 5 games, Colorado, UCLA, Cal, Washington State and USC.
Tate played in 7 games this season.

But Tate started in five game?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:56 am

cordera89 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
6 games
So who are the other PAC 12 QB that had ran for 1,000 yards in a season. Regardless of the 5 games stretch.

It pays to read what you quote.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:34 am

Wow, nice to have a team leader to who winning and losing mean this much (and all respect to Clay Helton and his players too):

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:06 am

Damn straight...he's a warrior and even when things looked bleak he continued to compete and led us back from 22 down to get us even. I'm sure that pick on first down when we were only 7 down in the 4th is eating away at him but that should only motivate him to get even better than he already is.

Proud to have him as our QB and excited about watching him lead this team to more W's in the future.

Keep your head up Khalil.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:11 am

My only criticism to this point is the young man needs to control his turnovers. 6 in the past 2 games. That INT in the 4th was a killer. Overall what a stud and he’ll be fun to watch going forward

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:18 am

cordera89 wrote: But Tate started in five game?

He started 4 games. Chicat's point was that Tate is the first QB to rush for a thousand yards and he hasn't played a full season.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:29 am

SI has Tate at #3 for their Heisman watch: https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... twitter_si" target="_blank

whatisee wrote:My only criticism to this point is the young man needs to control his turnovers. 6 in the past 2 games. That INT in the 4th was a killer. Overall what a stud and he’ll be fun to watch going forward

I'm not sure both those picks were on Tate although they are assigned to him. The second one most certainly wasn't, it was stripped from Brown.

Don't know if the long int was on Tate or the receiver. There was no one near the ball but the USC DB. Either the receiver ran the wrong route or Tate made the wrong pass, but no Cat was close.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:51 am

Both great and terrible to see.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:24 pm

I just wish we had more talent around Tate.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:53 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:I just wish we had more talent around Tate.

Same. He's such a special talent that it's a shame he's on a team where he has to carry the load of the defense on his shoulders. Imagine if we actually had recruited some power conference level players in defense so that Tate and the offense didn't have to do everything to win. But we can't criticize RR and his recruiting on this board anymore.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:34 pm

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:46 pm

Khalil is such a special talent, the coaches are learning how special as we go along. I can’t wait to see th offense RR, Smith and McGee build around him during the off season. We won’t ever burn a half like we did last night.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:20 am

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:38 am

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:22 am

The thing that Tate is missing is the big game win. If Arizona pulled off the comeback on the road it would have been the heisman game. Not sure if any other game really fits that type of game. Like Love beating Washington.

KillerKlown · Post by **KillerKlown** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:17 pm

Momentum is everything right now. Finish strong (how he's been playing) and he'll be a strong candidate for the upcoming season. What he'll also need a lot of is the University throwing his name out there in the ring with all the bright lights they can shine on him, because we know for damn sure the PAC networks won't help. A lot more than they did with Ka'deem. Just have to be careful not to put so much pressure on him. Just my opinion.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:12 pm

Phylek · Post by **Phylek** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:01 am

Did anyone else laugh out loud at the TV last night when Dawkins came in in the 4th quarter and the announcer asked the color guy what Dawkins needed to do to earn the starting job back?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:02 am

Phylek wrote:Did anyone else laugh out loud at the TV last night when Dawkins came in in the 4th quarter and the announcer asked the color guy what Dawkins needed to do to earn the starting job back?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:46 am

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:05 pm

#1 96.5 QBR, 998 Passing Yards, 8 TDs, 6 INTs
#7 with 1,293 Rushing Yards, 11 TDs
11.6 Yards Per Rush, only player in the top 160 with 10+

http://www.espn.com/college-football/heisman/" target="_blank

#3 in Heisman voting

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:12 pm

Jefe wrote:#1 96.5 QBR, 998 Passing Yards, 8 TDs, 6 INTs
#7 with 1,293 Rushing Yards, 11 TDs
11.6 Yards Per Rush, only player in the top 160 with 10+

http://www.espn.com/college-football/heisman/" target="_blank

#3 in Heisman voting

Need to look up NCAA QBR, Mayfield's numbers are just insane.

YDS TD INT CMP% QBR
3559 31 5 71.2 92.7

compared to Tate's

YDS TD INT CMP% QBR
998 8 6 61.9 96.5

http://www.primecomputing.com/formula.htm" target="_blank

NCAA Quarterback Rating Formula
(National Collegiate Athletic League)

a = (Comp/Att) * 100
b = (TDs/Att) * 100
c = (Int/Att) * 100
d = Yards/Att

QB Rating = a+(3.3*b)-(2*c)+(8.4*d)

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:11 pm

Merkin wrote:
Jefe wrote:#1 96.5 QBR, 998 Passing Yards, 8 TDs, 6 INTs
#7 with 1,293 Rushing Yards, 11 TDs
11.6 Yards Per Rush, only player in the top 160 with 10+

http://www.espn.com/college-football/heisman/" target="_blank

#3 in Heisman voting

Need to look up NCAA QBR, Mayfield's numbers are just insane.

YDS TD INT CMP% QBR
3559 31 5 71.2 92.7

compared to Tate's

YDS TD INT CMP% QBR
998 8 6 61.9 96.5

http://www.primecomputing.com/formula.htm" target="_blank

NCAA Quarterback Rating Formula
(National Collegiate Athletic League)

a = (Comp/Att) * 100
b = (TDs/Att) * 100
c = (Int/Att) * 100
d = Yards/Att

QB Rating = a+(3.3*b)-(2*c)+(8.4*d)

Mayfield is going to be discounted by far too many NFL scouts and is going to be a winner in the NFL. Those numbers, particularly the QBR over time, are insane.

Phylek · Post by **Phylek** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:31 pm

Merkin wrote:
Jefe wrote:#1 96.5 QBR, 998 Passing Yards, 8 TDs, 6 INTs
#7 with 1,293 Rushing Yards, 11 TDs
11.6 Yards Per Rush, only player in the top 160 with 10+

http://www.espn.com/college-football/heisman/" target="_blank

#3 in Heisman voting

Need to look up NCAA QBR, Mayfield's numbers are just insane.

YDS TD INT CMP% QBR
3559 31 5 71.2 92.7

compared to Tate's

YDS TD INT CMP% QBR
998 8 6 61.9 96.5

http://www.primecomputing.com/formula.htm" target="_blank

NCAA Quarterback Rating Formula
(National Collegiate Athletic League)

a = (Comp/Att) * 100
b = (TDs/Att) * 100
c = (Int/Att) * 100
d = Yards/Att

QB Rating = a+(3.3*b)-(2*c)+(8.4*d)

QBR and passer rating are two different things. The formula you included is for passer rating and only includes passing numbers. The QBR is something ESPN came up with a few years ago that includes rushing, penalties, turnovers, pretty much everything a quarterback can do to impact the game. It's intended to represent a quarterback's overall value to his team's success on a scale from 0-100.

Phylek · Post by **Phylek** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:07 pm

Khalil Tate hasn't thrown enough passes to qualify to be listed on any statistical charts for passer rating, so I manually calculated his passer rating for comparison purposes.

Baker Mayfield comes in at #1 in the nation with a passer rating of 202.1.

Khalil would come in at 155.5 which would be good enough for #13 in the nation and #1 in the PAC.

I have to admit I'm pretty shocked it was that high. I thought it would be pretty good, but not that good.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:52 am

I don't expect Tate to win the Heisman this year. However, if he has two more solid games, and especially if Arizona wins out, he should definitely be invited to the ceremony. A sophomore who came in during week five, has put up numbers that are unmatched, and who took a 2-2 team and led them within sight distance of a NY6 bowl... that may not win the award but that definitely deserves the invite. If he goes to NYC this year I'll be happy. So will the marketing department.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:09 am

azpenguin wrote:I don't expect Tate to win the Heisman this year. However, if he has two more solid games, and especially if Arizona wins out, he should definitely be invited to the ceremony. A sophomore who came in during week five, has put up numbers that are unmatched, and who took a 2-2 team and led them within sight distance of a NY6 bowl... that may not win the award but that definitely deserves the invite. If he goes to NYC this year I'll be happy. So will the marketing department.

Tate is currently sitting at #3 right now. A huge game against NikeU will get him to NYC.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:29 am

Sid wrote:
azpenguin wrote:I don't expect Tate to win the Heisman this year. However, if he has two more solid games, and especially if Arizona wins out, he should definitely be invited to the ceremony. A sophomore who came in during week five, has put up numbers that are unmatched, and who took a 2-2 team and led them within sight distance of a NY6 bowl... that may not win the award but that definitely deserves the invite. If he goes to NYC this year I'll be happy. So will the marketing department.
Tate is currently sitting at #3 right now. A huge game against NikeU will get him to NYC.

Love it. An invite is all we can ask for and the exposure would be huge for marketing and next years game times on national networks.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:28 am

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:37 am

That was a stone cold, balls out run.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:49 am

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:11 am

azgreg wrote:

The 'Come Together' video is very cool.

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:19 am

Sarcasm. . . I think. . . fairly sure. . . yup. . .?

RiseAndFire · Post by **RiseAndFire** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:20 am

This Duck blog used some very advanced metrics to see where Tate stacks up

:

https://www.addictedtoquack.com/2017/11 ... ryl-streep

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