Bribery Scandal - FBI Probe - Book Richardson Involved

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:52 am

Jay Bilas has an interesting and detailed proposal for the NCAA in the wake of the FBI scandal. Trigger warning: if you're really into the traditional NCAA/amateur dynamic, this is not the article for you. I tend to agree very much, but I recognize my viewpoint is decidedly non-traditional.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... basketball" target="_blank

We're also a national title favorite, which is cool.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:55 pm

Didn't want to create a new thread, but these suspensions have nothing to do with the FBI probe:

Mark Phelps for 5 days
Keanu Pinder for 1 game

I know the reason and can't share it publicly, but it's seriously so innocent and plum retarded. There's no bigger issue nor anything that ties with Book/Adidas here. Arizona just found it while doing their internal investigation. Once again it's seriously so stupid, innocent, and just overall silly, but hey we're under the microscope here and any little thing we find we have to be proactive, so there you go. Don't worry about this any more. I just feel bad for Phelps losing pay for 5 days, but c'est la vie.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:58 pm

LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL!!!

HAS SEAN MILLER LOST CONTROL OF THE PROGRAM?!

/s

prh · Post by **prh** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:01 pm

Wait Choo you mean you didn't want another ridiculous panic thread around here??

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:04 pm

prh wrote:Wait Choo you mean you didn't want another ridiculous panic thread around here??

I mean feel free to go full on Hank if you want. I'll never tell you want to do.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:04 pm

prh wrote:Wait Choo you mean you didn't want another ridiculous panic thread around here??

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:05 pm

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:08 pm

Win & Vacate

Let's eat these W's

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:11 pm

Have we ever suspended an asst coach for 5 games? Strange its not related. He better not be buying Barcello Taco Bell every day

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:14 pm

Jefe wrote:Have we ever suspended an asst coach for 5 games? Strange its not related. He better not be buying Barcello Taco Bell every day

No, because usually meaningless shit like this is never discovered, because it's never looked into, because it's meaningless shit. Unusual circumstances lead to unusual meaningless discoveries.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:16 pm

Jefe wrote:Have we ever suspended an asst coach for 5 games? Strange its not related. He better not be buying Barcello Taco Bell every day

Choo said 5 days. Wonder if that is literal or not?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:17 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Jefe wrote:Have we ever suspended an asst coach for 5 games? Strange its not related. He better not be buying Barcello Taco Bell every day
No, because usually meaningless shit like this is never discovered, because it's never looked into, because it's meaningless shit. Unusual circumstances lead to unusual meaningless discoveries.

Ah. It was Arby's.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:17 pm

84Cat wrote:
Jefe wrote:Have we ever suspended an asst coach for 5 games? Strange its not related. He better not be buying Barcello Taco Bell every day
Choo said 5 days. Wonder if that is literal or not?

Days

A1RZONA · Post by **A1RZONA** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:19 pm

NYCat wrote:LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL!!!

HAS SEAN MILLER LOST CONTROL OF THE PROGRAM?!

Right on queue

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:20 pm

I doubt any of you have been furloughed, but you'd be shocked how much pay and benefits you lose over five days.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:20 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:No, because usually meaningless shit like this is never discovered, because it's never looked into, because it's meaningless shit. Unusual circumstances lead to unusual meaningless discoveries.

He was taking bananas and cookies home from the players kitchen. Damnit Mark

A1RZONA · Post by **A1RZONA** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:24 pm

Jefe wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:No, because usually meaningless shit like this is never discovered, because it's never looked into, because it's meaningless shit. Unusual circumstances lead to unusual meaningless discoveries.
He was taking bananas and cookies home from the players kitchen. Damnit Mark

I REALLY HOPE THIS IS THE REASON!!

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:25 pm

84Cat wrote:
Jefe wrote:Have we ever suspended an asst coach for 5 games? Strange its not related. He better not be buying Barcello Taco Bell every day
Choo said 5 days. Wonder if that is literal or not?

Yeah it's 5 days, which translates to 2 games.

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:26 pm

Am I reading into it to assume that Pinders and Marks suspensions are related? Like did Phelps let Pinder use the office phone to call Australia or something?

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:26 pm

NYCat wrote:
Alabama athletic director Greg Byrne announced just prior to tipoff that the Crimson Tide are holding out heralded freshman point guard Collin Sexton until he receives clearance to play from the NCAA.
“The NCAA informed us late this afternoon that Colin Sexton has not had his eligibility reinstated by the NCAA,” Byrne said in a statement. “We don’t have any further information at this time, but we will continue to cooperate with the NCAA and work toward a resolution that results in Colin’s timely reinstatement. While we are disappointed, the right decision was to err on the side of caution for tonight’s exhibition game.”

Alabama getting risky...

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:28 pm

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:29 pm

CatFanOneMil wrote:Am I reading into it to assume that Pinders and Marks suspensions are related? Like did Phelps let Pinder use the office phone to call Australia or something?

Sounds like Phelps actually bought Pinder a subscription to PornHub.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:30 pm

CatFanOneMil wrote:Am I reading into it to assume that Pinders and Marks suspensions are related? Like did Phelps let Pinder use the office phone to call Australia or something?

Yes they are both suspended for the same incident if you want to call it an incident.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:34 pm

This is why I told Hank of SB you do a good investigation first. What if we jumped the gun and only did 4 days? The NCAA would be all up on us then.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:39 pm

CatFanOneMil wrote:Am I reading into it to assume that Pinders and Marks suspensions are related? Like did Phelps let Pinder use the office phone to call Australia or something?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:49 pm

Alabama won't win and therefore has nothing to vacate.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:58 pm

This may have been mentioned before but wanted to throw it out there. Take it with a grain of salt, but my freshman year roommate works for TCU basketball and sent me this text:

"I was talking with our compliance office and they said it would be at least a year before anything happens with the NCAA. They don't have subpoena power (obviously), so they'll wait for the FBI to make everything public, then take action."

WIN & VACATE BABY

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:59 pm

btfd16 wrote:This may have been mentioned before but wanted to throw it out there. Take it with a grain of salt, but my freshman year roommate works for TCU basketball and sent me this text:

"I was talking with our compliance office and they said it would be at least a year before anything happens with the NCAA. They don't have subpoena power (obviously), so they'll wait for the FBI to make everything public, then take action."

WIN & VACATE BABY

And that's the money shot.

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:01 pm

btfd16 wrote:This may have been mentioned before but wanted to throw it out there. Take it with a grain of salt, but my freshman year roommate works for TCU basketball and sent me this text:

"I was talking with our compliance office and they said it would be at least a year before anything happens with the NCAA. They don't have subpoena power (obviously), so they'll wait for the FBI to make everything public, then take action."

WIN & VACATE BABY

I hope your friend is right. If he isn't, I'll personally find him and introduce him to my right fist.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:01 pm

Statfreak77 wrote:
btfd16 wrote:This may have been mentioned before but wanted to throw it out there. Take it with a grain of salt, but my freshman year roommate works for TCU basketball and sent me this text:

"I was talking with our compliance office and they said it would be at least a year before anything happens with the NCAA. They don't have subpoena power (obviously), so they'll wait for the FBI to make everything public, then take action."

WIN & VACATE BABY
I hope your friend is right. If he isn't, I'll personally find him and introduce him to my right fist.

I will be second in line.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:05 pm

They can take our championship, but they cannot bleach bit our collective memory

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:20 pm

btfd16 wrote:This may have been mentioned before but wanted to throw it out there. Take it with a grain of salt, but my freshman year roommate works for TCU basketball and sent me this text:

"I was talking with our compliance office and they said it would be at least a year before anything happens with the NCAA. They don't have subpoena power (obviously), so they'll wait for the FBI to make everything public, then take action."

WIN & VACATE BABY

He is dead on. Most NCAA processes take at least a year, at the absolute minimum. The chances that the NCAA takes action prior to the end of this season don't exist.

The only thing would be self-imposed sanctions, but right now we don't have an eligibility issue on our current team unless there's some level of proof about the Dawkins allegation about this year's team.

Either way, play out this year, investigate, self-impose in the offseason. I think it's more likely we lose the 2018-19 postseason by a long shot as opposed to this year.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:40 pm

Does Randolph really have a "concussion"

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:46 pm

Postseason ban? Hell no maybe probation and lose scholarships

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:49 pm

Inside info: Miller agrees that Pinder has no value on this team beyond deep bench depth so he made up a violation, Phelps took the L to play along, and that’s how we get 30 min of Akot and Lee.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:52 pm

NYCat wrote:Does Randolph really have a "concussion"

Yes. Because Miller isn't a lying sack of sh*t.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:17 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
NYCat wrote:Does Randolph really have a "concussion"

Yes. Because Miller isn't a lying sack of sh*t.

Also, why would he be held out of an exhibition game like he was previously? Those games don't count so eligibility wouldn't be an issue.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:25 pm

Think he's back Sunday

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:30 pm

The conspiracy theory with Randolph is so completely stupid. Just square pegs in round holes, pound, POUND, POUND!!! SUCCESS!!!

Lemme guess...coach tossed Pinder his phone because Pinder ran out of data because he has Australian internet and they ration it.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:33 pm

No he gave coach 3 free jars of vegemite.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:17 pm

NYCat wrote:Does Randolph really have a "concussion"

Yes, every one needs to take off their damn tin foil hat in regards to Randolph. Arizona knows what they have in him and they don't want to even risk the kid for fricken NAU and whoever we just played. If he was a concern they wouldn't have played him in our first exhibition.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:21 am

So we were the only team that had an assistant coach fired that didn't have a player suspended. Plus Bowen for Louisville and Sexton for 'Bama were suspended, tho Sexton is back. Not sure about Miami.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:23 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
NYCat wrote:Does Randolph really have a "concussion"

Yes, every one needs to take off their damn tin foil hat in regards to Randolph. Arizona knows what they have in him and they don't want to even risk the kid for fricken NAU and whoever we just played. If he was a concern they wouldn't have played him in our first exhibition.

We played him for like 2 min vs UMBC. Were we trying to risk vacating UMBC because those two first half minutes were super crucial?

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:28 am

SunnyAZ wrote:So we were the only team that had an assistant coach fired that didn't have a player suspended. Plus Bowen for Louisville and Sexton for 'Bama were suspended, tho Sexton is back. Not sure about Miami.

Like the other programs, we lost a player cited in the report. In our case it was a future player (JQ). That's not counting Little, et al.

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:10 pm

http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/3738.shtml" target="_blank

Ah, this is cute. Russ is still lurking around these parts, and claims to know what the hell he is talking about.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:17 pm

Statfreak77 wrote:http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/3738.shtml

Ah, this is cute. Russ is still lurking around these parts, and claims to know what the hell he is talking about.

Wow. That guy *has* to be following AZ hoops closer than he's ever followed UCLA, which is weird. He sounds legitimately paranoid in that thread, like AZ's ongoing dominance of UCLA has him in need of medication and rest.

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:20 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Statfreak77 wrote:http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/3738.shtml

Ah, this is cute. Russ is still lurking around these parts, and claims to know what the hell he is talking about.
Wow. That guy *has* to be following AZ hoops closer than he's ever followed UCLA, which is weird. He sounds legitimately paranoid in that thread, like AZ's ongoing dominance of UCLA has him in need of medication and rest.

Yeah, it is funny stuff. There are a few different posters that I make sure to read over at that place, and Russ is one of them. The other is MMiller. Go read some of his posts, and the guy is their version of JessieWildcat. Delusional and unbelievably unrealistic.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:55 pm

Statfreak77 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
Statfreak77 wrote:http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/3738.shtml

Ah, this is cute. Russ is still lurking around these parts, and claims to know what the hell he is talking about.
Wow. That guy *has* to be following AZ hoops closer than he's ever followed UCLA, which is weird. He sounds legitimately paranoid in that thread, like AZ's ongoing dominance of UCLA has him in need of medication and rest.
Yeah, it is funny stuff. There are a few different posters that I make sure to read over at that place, and Russ is one of them. The other is MMiller. Go read some of his posts, and the guy is their version of JessieWildcat. Delusional and unbelievably unrealistic.

I mean, my guess is that Russ is over 65 years of age. He's gotta be old enough to remember UCLA being a legit elite program and simply pines for the past. But instead of paying attention to, say, this year's Bruins, he's utterly consumed by all things AZ hoops. When there's bad news for AZ, it must feel like Christmas morning for him. It's a crappy way to be a fan. I'll admit it: I got too caught up in UCLA for a while, but nowhere near the degree as this guy. His fine-tooth comb readings of those FBI documents reminds me of a conspiracy theorist looking for evidence of JFK's assassination plot or UFOs in Roswell.

Anyway...let it go, Russ. Root for and follow your team. We'll do the same with ours.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:24 pm

CatFanOneMil wrote:Am I reading into it to assume that Pinders and Marks suspensions are related? Like did Phelps let Pinder use the office phone to call Australia or something?

Good for you, Catfan, you were pretty close.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:28 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:So we were the only team that had an assistant coach fired that didn't have a player suspended. Plus Bowen for Louisville and Sexton for 'Bama were suspended, tho Sexton is back. Not sure about Miami.

Miami isn't holding out a player either. Only Miami and AZ are playing all of their healthy players.

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