UCLA Basketball in trouble!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:30 pm

Russ Smith will rescue them with an incredible series of posts on the Zhejiang Guangsha Lions message board. It will be glorious.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:54 pm

Do we have any stats on this? How many teams have made the tourney after having players imprisoned in an authoritarian state? I'm guessing zero.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:12 pm

I was trying to think of what Richard Gere movie this reminded me of:

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0119994/plots ... tt_stry_pl" target="_blank

That one. Those players need to retain Shen Yuelin.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:16 pm

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:47 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: I'm not a lawyer, but I believe you're subject to the laws of the place you're in, right?

No you totally have your American constitutional rights (and corresponding case law) in China. Just ask Counselor azdoubledown. He'll write it out for you in crayon and then submit that crayon drawing to the Chinese court for consideration and oral argument.

Of course the oral argument will sound like this:

Jail.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:01 pm

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:47 am

I am just waiting for Lavar to tell the Chinese police to "stay in yo lane!"

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:49 am

I’m sure this is the biggest question on everybody’s mind.

When did Gangzhou become Hangzhou?

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:31 am

Scout is saying 20 days house arrest at their hotel and a permanent ban from China for all 3 players. Nothing official yet though. Gonna miss 3-4 games plus even more when UCLA handles it. Were these 3 going to get decent minutes?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:40 am

wyo-cat wrote:I’m sure this is the biggest question on everybody’s mind.

When did Gangzhou become Hangzhou?

Well, the NBA D League changed to the G League when Gatorade sponsored it. I would assume Gatorade dropped their sponsorship of Gangzhou at some point?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:47 am

Statfreak77 wrote:I am just waiting for Lavar to tell the Chinese police to "stay in yo lane!"

I think he’s more likely to just start telling people he’s only got two kids.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:05 am

Jefe wrote:Scout is saying 20 days house arrest at their hotel and a permanent ban from China for all 3 players. Nothing official yet though. Gonna miss 3-4 games plus even more when UCLA handles it. Were these 3 going to get decent minutes?

Not sure they can even stay academically eligible but they were taking midterms in China. I don't think they play this year now at all. Riley was first post off the bench or a starter. But Riley and Hill were going to be solid 3 to 4 year starters

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:10 am

UofAlum05 wrote:

This guy has said a lot of really stupid shit... but this is beyond stupid. He put his son and the other two kids in serious jeopardy with those words. If i was a father of one of the other boys I would break lavar's jaw so he could not speak again.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:11 am

Were any of them even going to crack the top 7-8 in the rotation for you guys?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:16 am

MrBug708 wrote:
Jefe wrote:Scout is saying 20 days house arrest at their hotel and a permanent ban from China for all 3 players. Nothing official yet though. Gonna miss 3-4 games plus even more when UCLA handles it. Were these 3 going to get decent minutes?
Not sure they can even stay academically eligible but they were taking midterms in China. I don't think they play this year now at all. Riley was first post off the bench or a starter. But Riley and Hill were going to be solid 3 to 4 year starters

Riley's the only one I'd worry about for UCLA right now. He would have been a solid contributor this year and starter down the line. Gelo is the wrong Ball and Hill needs time.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:45 am

Riley was going to see lots of time but the loss is for the following 2 to 3 years

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:47 am

http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/3279.shtml" target="_blank

Not sure how legit, but it could be why Lavar is crowing

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:57 am

MrBug708 wrote:http://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/3279.shtml

Not sure how legit, but it could be why Lavar is crowing

Well, the author does admit to having a shoplifting phase. That does not necessarily build credibility.

That said, when it all comes down, I do not disagree much. China is China, but this would be asking for a high profile international incident over sunglasses. I would assume there will be governmental posturing, but if the athletes are ready to grovel, it will blow over.

Then we move into what UCLA does. Just because it's super high profile doesn't mean it's not shoplifting. That is not necessarily a crime that ends a career or draws more than a suspension.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:58 am

Miller used to write for scout about a decade ago, so he has some level of sources. But just writing what's out there right now

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:06 pm

When do we move to the "fire Larry Scott" stage of this drama?

Post by **UAdevil** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:25 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:When do we move to the "fire Larry Scott" stage of this drama?

Yesterday.

https://scout.com/college/ucla/Board/10 ... -110150614" target="_blank

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:33 pm

UAdevil wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:When do we move to the "fire Larry Scott" stage of this drama?
Yesterday.

https://scout.com/college/ucla/Board/10 ... -110150614" target="_blank

As an Arizona fan, I’m frankly in awe of how quickly and concisely that argument was made.

I’d also like to see Scott get a lifetime contract if It means more Bruins will be locked up abroad.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:40 pm

Chicat wrote:
UAdevil wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:When do we move to the "fire Larry Scott" stage of this drama?
Yesterday.

https://scout.com/college/ucla/Board/10 ... -110150614" target="_blank
As an Arizona fan, I’m frankly in awe of how quickly and concisely that argument was made.

I’d also like to see Scott get a lifetime contract if It means more Bruins will be locked up abroad.

Whats more crazy? The fact that a UCLA fan started a thread making that argument or the replies from posters applauding Scott's effort to market in China? "Its to help expand P12 academics along with P12 athletics"

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:45 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
UAdevil wrote:
UofAlum05 wrote:When do we move to the "fire Larry Scott" stage of this drama?
Yesterday.

https://scout.com/college/ucla/Board/10 ... -110150614" target="_blank
As an Arizona fan, I’m frankly in awe of how quickly and concisely that argument was made.

I’d also like to see Scott get a lifetime contract if It means more Bruins will be locked up abroad.
Whats more crazy? The fact that a UCLA fan started a thread making that argument or the replies from posters applauding Scott's effort to market in China? "Its to help expand P12 academics along with P12 athletics"

The whole world has gone crazy. That’s the only thing I’m sure of anymore...

Well, that and UCLA Basketball being a laughingstock.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:06 pm

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:13 pm

20 day house arrest is likely going to be the punishment . In a 4* star hotel

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:17 pm

MrBug708 wrote:20 day house arrest is likely going to be the punishment . In a 4* star hotel

What's the gym/workout situation look like in that Hotel?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:26 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:20 day house arrest is likely going to be the punishment . In a 4* star hotel
What's the gym/workout situation look like in that Hotel?

Who’s paying is the better question...

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:02 pm

Pac-12 is picking up the the tab. Though I'm not sure actually

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:10 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Pac-12 is picking up the the tab. Though I'm not sure actually

Our PAC 12 dollars at work, paying for LiAngelo Ball's jail cell.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:33 pm

It just buys into the theory of Larry Scott doing everything for UCLA

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:54 pm

MrBug708 wrote:It just buys into the theory of Larry Scott doing everything for UCLA

Good thing you said theory, since that means it has scientific backing, which it does. No way he'd do that for Arizona players.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:13 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Pac-12 is picking up the the tab. Though I'm not sure actually

It's funny how it's wrong for players to get $. If they only get free room and board in China because they shoplifted something, the amateur system really prevails.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:30 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Pac-12 is picking up the the tab. Though I'm not sure actually
It's funny how it's wrong for players to get $. If they only get free room and board in China because they shoplifted something, the amateur system really prevails.

Did they get a free slice of pizza at any point?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:42 pm

Chicat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Pac-12 is picking up the the tab. Though I'm not sure actually
It's funny how it's wrong for players to get $. If they only get free room and board in China because they shoplifted something, the amateur system really prevails.
Did they get a free slice of pizza at any point?

Or a ride to the arena? HELL TO PAY!!!

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:46 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Pac-12 is picking up the the tab. Though I'm not sure actually
It's funny how it's wrong for players to get $. If they only get free room and board in China because they shoplifted something, the amateur system really prevails.
Did they get a free slice of pizza at any point?
Or a ride to the arena? HELL TO PAY!!!

And forget it if you slept on a friend's couch at a non-power 5 conference school.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:12 pm

-7.5 vs GT

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:22 pm

http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesport ... ningreport" target="_blank

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:58 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:http://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesport ... ningreport

Nicely stated. Thanks.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:16 pm

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/10/liangelo- ... a-alibaba/" target="_blank

LiAngelo Ball has got 2 powerful forces trying to secure his release from China ... UCLA and Alibaba founder Jack Ma ... TMZ Sports has learned.
Ball and 2 other UCLA basketball players are currently under house arrest after allegedly stealing sunglasses at Louis Vuitton.

Our UCLA sources tell us, the University has deep ties with China for various reasons, and school officials are using their influence to try and secure the release of the 3 players. As for the nature of the influence ... UCLA is a prize school for Chinese students, many doctors have won research projects at the various UCLA medical facilities and UCLA sports has become popular in China.

We're also told Jack Ma -- a Chinese citizen worth an estimated $40 billion -- is also working to help free the 3 players. FYI, the team visited Alibaba headquarters Monday ... the day before the arrests.

Our UCLA sources also say there is no question the players pilfered the sunglasses so there's no attempt to prove them not guilty ... they are trying to use their considerable influence to ask for mercy. As once source put it, "UCLA and Ma are pulling out all the political stops to resolve this.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:57 pm

It sounds like UCLA is playing in a library right now. I bet the players can hear every Waltonism from the court.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:11 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:It sounds like UCLA is playing in a library right now. I bet the players can hear every Waltonism from the court.

So, kinda like a regular game at Pauley?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:12 pm

Traffic is bad in China

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:26 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Traffic is bad in China

Damn fine comeback.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:41 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Traffic is bad in China

The internet has been won today.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:40 am

So...a two team race for the PAC title one game into the season

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:49 pm

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A source familiar with the investigation says there is surveillance footage of the players shoplifting from three stores inside of a high-end shopping center next to the team’s hotel in Hangzhou, which includes Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Yves Saint Laurent and Salvatore Ferragamo.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:27 pm

There are so many sources with some many pieces of information that it's hard to know what is even true or not.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:33 am

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