Arizona at Oregon discussion thread

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:18 am

I'm hearing that Herbert might be back for the Ducks.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:21 am

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:27 am

Thank God a 5 pm kick. Bring pain to the ducks

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:33 am

First to 50 wins

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:47 am

Man I want to beat these guys. Oregon will be much different with Herbert. Too bad Burmeister wasn't the starting QB as I am sure Wilborn would deliver a "wrong choice" message from the team

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:26 am

Herbert will probably start and the defense will get a heavy dose of Freeman.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:31 am

A win vs Oregon would make this a truly special year on the teams and coaches side. Already is for Tate and exposure.

Won't be easy. Toughest road game except for USC this year

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:38 am

Oregon just isn't good this year. Herbert scares me more than Burmeister and playing in autzen obviously isn't easy but man, they've been blown out lately.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:43 am

Coming off bye, particularly with Hebert back, this will be very tough game!! Hopefully, defense can come up with a few turnovers.
Over 90 for sure!!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:19 am

ramcat wrote:Coming off bye, particularly with Hebert back, this will be very tough game!! Hopefully, defense can come up with a few turnovers.
Over 90 for sure!!

Especially since Oregon actually has a pretty good run defense. We will have to get some good passing from Tate.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:21 am

Good passer he is!

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:32 pm

Schooler vs Schooler....

Younger bro just might have an opportunity to lay the wood on big brother!

Awesome.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:55 pm

Anybody else notice that Oregon Football changed their Twitter feed from @wintheday to @oregonfootball?

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:01 pm

Tate needs to take the shorter routes because they're going to be there. Oregon State figured him out pretty well last night - if he's dropping back, get the safety back so he can roll over the top. Tate's pick last night was one where he thought he had a one on one and the safety came over the top and boom, double coverage. This is really the one flaw in his game right now, where he looks long too often. He'll figure that out. This is kind of a big deal this week because Oregon is actually pretty good against the run, but teams have been throwing all over them. (The exceptions on them stopping the run are Stanford and UW. Both teams did very well on the ground, so if you play it right you can run on them.) They are -3 in turnover margin, which isn't completely ideal but this late in the season -3 is pretty much a wash. Arizona is going to have to play this like they did Wazzu and UCLA - make them run lots of plays instead of allowing the big play, because every play they run is another chance to get a turnover. If AZ can tighten up on third down they could run away with this. If he does play, I do expect Herbert to have a good day - how good remains to be seen. If it's Burmeister, Arizona's D is likely to be extra motivated.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:26 am

This, to me, is a very similar game to the USC game.

*edit for clarification

I think it's similar to the USC game in that it's important to show we can go on the road, beat a "big name" team (even if this year's oregeon isn't the oregon of past years) and keep/get a little momentum going into the final game of the season.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:35 am

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UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:12 am

Arizona 47
Oregon 35

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:04 am

Oregon's talent level fell way off under Helfrich, but we aren't so loaded that it's an easy game. Autzen is a tough venue for a young team and this should be a challenge.

Tossup, IMO. Based on the results so far, we have been a better team, but the intangible factors seem to cut against us.

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:09 am

There's a line published as Oregon -38 on vegasinsider. Gotta be a typo..

Guessing everyone else is waiting on the Duck's starter at QB.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:17 am

threenumberones wrote:There's a line published as Oregon -38 on vegasinsider. Gotta be a typo..

Guessing everyone else is waiting on the Duck's starter at QB.

I saw that, weird. Nobody has a line yet. I think you're right on the QB question.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:55 pm

first available line is a pickem, but it is an online book and not linked to any Vegas book

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:00 am

Stats on a per play basis are showing that Oregon and Arizona have similar defenses. On offense though, Arizona has been the better team. But some of those stats are without Oregon's best QB. This should shape up to be a good tough game. Can Arizona make enough plays? They will have the best player on the field so lets hope so.

Interesting stat, in Oregon's last game vs Washington, Washington put 6.3 yards a rush. On average U of A averages 2.2 more yards a rush than Washington.

I just worry about the extra time Oregon had to prep. Next year something must be done about these bye weeks and scheduling. While we did benefit from CU playing the week before we played them, both UCLA and Oregon had byes before we played them. Best would same rest for both teams going into each game minus a day here and there for Friday games, but at a minimum you shouldnt play more than one team coming off a bye in a season.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:03 am

PHXCATS wrote:at a minimum you shouldnt play more than one team coming off a bye in a season.

Definitely agree with that. Last year it felt like we played five teams coming off byes while we didn’t have one.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:17 am

Chicat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:at a minimum you shouldnt play more than one team coming off a bye in a season.
Definitely agree with that. Last year it felt like we played five teams coming off byes while we didn’t have one.

I think you are talking about 2015.

I did a little further digging. No team played us coming off a bye last year (2016)

2015 we had our bye the last week of the regular season like USC does this year, although USC deserves it by demanding to play Notre Dame later in the season and not in the first three weeks of the season. But in that year only Oregon State played us off a bye.

Anyway the point is is that it needs to be consistent moving forward unless you are Stanford and USC and have your demands about Notre Dame.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:50 pm

Of the three good teams Oregon has played (Washington, Washington State and Stanford), Oregon gave up more yards per rush and yards per pass to all three compared to what the other team has averaged for the year. Except for WSU passing, WSU had 6.7 yards per pass in that a game and that is their season average.

Both teams will be moving the ball.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:32 am

Arizona 31
Oregon 34

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:36 am

Over 90!

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:37 am

Fields might have a message for Burmeister IF he gets in as they were supposed to room together. Think this one might be extra nasty and physical.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:52 am

Word is that Herbert is starting.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:39 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:40 pm

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:38 pm

Arizona 49
Oregon 45

Cats break their own rushing record from a week ago.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:18 pm

chiefzona wrote:Word is that Herbert is starting.

He'll be a bit rusty the first half. Will warm up in the second half. Just hope we can stay a TD or two ahead, similar to Cal game. They'll catch up but we'll hold on.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:26 pm

azgreg wrote:

They will over-pursue. RR will have plays for that. After burned a few times, they will get more disciplined, when that happens, we will need to break through a few takles and pass over their heads.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:51 pm

We cracked the code of what SC did. I’m guessing we see those plays and formations earlier in this game. Mix it up.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:57 am

What we can't have is a wasted half.

We need to be the team that comes out exceptionally prepared and with a great game plan.

Half-time adjustments are obviously going to occur regardless, but if they're occurring because we're down 21 points, that's a recipe for a loss.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:13 am

This is the game that should get Tate to NYC. You can expect a tremendous effort from EVERYONE on this team. Fucking huge game, no other way to say it.....

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:44 am

Sid wrote:This is the game that should get Tate to NYC. You can expect a tremendous effort from EVERYONE on this team. Fucking huge game, no other way to say it.....

UCLA level intensity. Score to settle. Can't figure out how FS or ESPN didn't pick this one up. Will be at the game so looking forward to experiencing our win first hand

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:23 am

Oregon -1 O/U 74.5

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:59 pm

It officially came out that Herbert is starting. But some knew that last week.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:27 pm

chiefzona wrote:It officially came out that Herbert is starting. But some knew that last week.

By some you mean everybody.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:12 pm

azgreg wrote:
chiefzona wrote:It officially came out that Herbert is starting. But some knew that last week.
By some you mean everybody.

Easy there Greggy.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:37 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:
chiefzona wrote:It officially came out that Herbert is starting. But some knew that last week.
By some you mean everybody.
Easy there Greggy.

It was the worst kept secret in football this month.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:42 pm

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:02 pm

azgreg wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:
chiefzona wrote:It officially came out that Herbert is starting. But some knew that last week.
By some you mean everybody.
Easy there Greggy.
It was the worst kept secret in football this month.

Yet, scared pundits said nothing on it as definitive. Best kept secret of the month was Arizona’s defense isn’t good. Pundits and fans are afraid to admit that.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:05 pm

chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:
chiefzona wrote:It officially came out that Herbert is starting. But some knew that last week.
By some you mean everybody.
Easy there Greggy.
It was the worst kept secret in football this month.

Yet, scared pundits said nothing on it as definitive. Best kept secret of the month was Arizona’s defense isn’t good. Pundits and fans are afraid to admit that.

Per play averages beg to differ but go for it.....

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:11 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
azgreg wrote:

Yet, scared pundits said nothing on it as definitive. Best kept secret of the month was Arizona’s defense isn’t good. Pundits and fans are afraid to admit that.
Per play averages beg to differ but go for it.....

Case in point. So, do you honestly think this Arizona defense is good? An average USC offense threw down 49 duckets on these guys. Oregon State schooled them in the second half. Want to pretend like everyone did with Casteel’s defense or are we gonna live in reality here?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:15 pm

It is so hard to hold my tongue when a certain poster insists we have an amazing defense. So. Hard.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:23 pm

7-3 is all that counts and we would've 9-1 if Tate had started game 1. Defense is improved but certainly not great. Never will be with RR's offense but keep trying to drag fan opinion down program cancer man

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:27 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Case in point. So, do you honestly think this Arizona defense is good? An average USC offense threw down 49 duckets on these guys. Oregon State schooled them in the second half. Want to pretend like everyone did with Casteel’s defense or are we gonna live in reality here?

USC is not an average offense. They are very good with tons of NFLers on it.

Yeah no chance that the defense let up off the gas a bit when they were blowing out Oregon and gave up less than 100 yards in the first half?

They are not great but they are decent and improving dramatically. Anyone who watches it and not just looks at stats can see that.

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