UCLA Basketball in trouble!

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:32 pm

Chicat wrote:I don’t understand why they aren’t suspended for the season, or at least for a defined time period. Indefinite strikes me as “until the team needs you”.

I hope it's until conference play. Copping out before the Kentucky game is lame, especially because they look like garbage

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:36 pm

Chicat wrote:I don’t understand why they aren’t suspended for the season, or at least for a defined time period. Indefinite strikes me as “until the team needs you”.

Or "until people have forgotten enough that we get minimal backlash from reinstating you."

Or "look, you're only collaterally important to our winning, so we'll see how long you have to act sorry."

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:54 pm

When someone is caught stealing and the "excuse" given is that this is the first time, my first thought is this the first time they stole something or is this the first time they've been caught? How many other times have these guys lifted items from a high end retailer and got away with it?

UCLA gives up 45 points in the first half to Central Arkansas coached by none other than Russ Pennell.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:56 pm

Defense is going to be a problem.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:22 pm

Down 6 to the team predicted #12 in the southland conference

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:27 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Defense is going to be a problem.

Heard that before.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:33 pm

Chicat wrote:I don’t understand why they aren’t suspended for the season, or at least for a defined time period. Indefinite strikes me as “until the team needs you”.

The correct thing to do is keep them in for OOC games and then suddenly, when the conference season starts, suspend them for like ???.

The WORST thing you can do for the conference is suspend them for the entirety of the OOC schedule.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:36 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:Down 6 to the team predicted #12 in the southland conference

After seeing UCLA's first game (even understanding they're short handed) it was clear it was a two team race for the title. There's no way UCLA can compete with either USC or Arizona over 18 games.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:47 pm

LOL WAIT, Russ Penell???????

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:47 pm

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:48 pm

Central Ark is down by 2 with 3 mins left

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:49 pm

Tied with 2 mins left

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:51 pm

zonagrad wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Defense is going to be a problem.
Heard that before.

While I think there is some truth to the 8 man rotation and slight jet lag from China, but it's just not a very well coached team. I think the assistant coaching staff might be the worst that I can remember

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:53 pm

They are definitely in trouble. Looks like they will win tonight, but Central Arky?

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:55 pm

wyo-cat wrote:They are definitely in trouble. Looks like they will win tonight, but Central Arky?

They'll do what they do. But what they won't do is compete for the PAC title.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:00 pm

This is some bad basketball. UCLA isn’t this bad right? Just an off night?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:00 pm

84-83 20 sec left

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:02 pm

And central Arkansas takes the lead with 3 seconds left

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:03 pm

Defense is as bad as football's defense.

Lucky break on the foul

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:04 pm

Shucks

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:12 pm

9-0 run puts it away in OT for the Bruins. Congrats guys. Big programs win big games.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:15 pm

Is welsh going to hit that open 10 foot baseline jumper?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:20 pm

35 points for a guard from C Ark. Ucla survives 106-101.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:23 pm

Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:24 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later

Won't effect anything. But it will be funny to see UCLA bring them back in desperation.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:26 pm

Based on this sample size, UCLA will not finish higher than 5th in the Pac this season. That was downright pathetic.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:24 am

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:16 am

MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later

UCLA wishes they had Lonzo back and the way Lonzo is shooting, he probably wishes he was back at UCLA.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:22 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later
UCLA wishes they had Lonzo back and the way Lonzo is shooting, he probably wishes he was back at UCLA.

Spiff, don't you think that Lavar sort of convinced the world that Lonzo (maybe even Lonzo) was not only NBA-ready but a top 3 pick? I think Lonzo will get through this and go on to become a good player. But man is he struggling. A second year in college would've done him wonders.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:35 am

UCLA's defense *insert chuckle* is worse than last year.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:05 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later
UCLA wishes they had Lonzo back and the way Lonzo is shooting, he probably wishes he was back at UCLA.
Spiff, don't you think that Lavar sort of convinced the world that Lonzo (maybe even Lonzo) was not only NBA-ready but a top 3 pick? I think Lonzo will get through this and go on to become a good player. But man is he struggling. A second year in college would've done him wonders.

I'd disagree. His issue is he is in a horrible shooting slump. He was a better shooter in HS, College and Summer League but right now he can't hit the ocean from a boat.

My opinion is this is mental and college/pro, he needs to get his mind right and shake the issues. It isn't really about his ability and he's performing fine on D, rebounding and assists. He is just shooting horrifically, but he didn't do that at UCLA. This is a performance issue for me, not seasoning.

His game is ready for the NBA, but you can't sustain less than 30% from the field and 20% from 3. He isn't as bad as those numbers, but he has to start showing it. The yips can be real.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:27 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later
UCLA wishes they had Lonzo back and the way Lonzo is shooting, he probably wishes he was back at UCLA.
Spiff, don't you think that Lavar sort of convinced the world that Lonzo (maybe even Lonzo) was not only NBA-ready but a top 3 pick? I think Lonzo will get through this and go on to become a good player. But man is he struggling. A second year in college would've done him wonders.
I'd disagree. His issue is he is in a horrible shooting slump. He was a better shooter in HS, College and Summer League but right now he can't hit the ocean from a boat.

My opinion is this is mental and college/pro, he needs to get his mind right and shake the issues. It isn't really about his ability and he's performing fine on D, rebounding and assists. He is just shooting horrifically, but he didn't do that at UCLA. This is a performance issue for me, not seasoning.

His game is ready for the NBA, but you can't sustain less than 30% from the field and 20% from 3. He isn't as bad as those numbers, but he has to start showing it. The yips can be real.

I hope you're right. Lonzo seems like a good guy, and it's painful to watch him struggle. If the slump lasts all season, the negative press is going to really test him. I also hope Lavar shuts the f up.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:06 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later
UCLA wishes they had Lonzo back and the way Lonzo is shooting, he probably wishes he was back at UCLA.
Spiff, don't you think that Lavar sort of convinced the world that Lonzo (maybe even Lonzo) was not only NBA-ready but a top 3 pick? I think Lonzo will get through this and go on to become a good player. But man is he struggling. A second year in college would've done him wonders.
I'd disagree. His issue is he is in a horrible shooting slump. He was a better shooter in HS, College and Summer League but right now he can't hit the ocean from a boat.

My opinion is this is mental and college/pro, he needs to get his mind right and shake the issues. It isn't really about his ability and he's performing fine on D, rebounding and assists. He is just shooting horrifically, but he didn't do that at UCLA. This is a performance issue for me, not seasoning.

His game is ready for the NBA, but you can't sustain less than 30% from the field and 20% from 3. He isn't as bad as those numbers, but he has to start showing it. The yips can be real.
I hope you're right. Lonzo seems like a good guy, and it's painful to watch him struggle. If the slump lasts all season, the negative press is going to really test him. I also hope Lavar shuts the f up.

Lonzo has always seemed like a decent kid. All the attention Lavar draws wasn't an issue when things were going well.

Now that they're not going well, Lonzo's getting hit with the downside of Lavar being a publicity hog. Fultz has actually done worse than Lonzo, but Lavar has Lonzo under such a microscope that when he hits a slump, he gets outsized pressure.

It's a lot for a young kid. I feel bad for Lonzo. Like I said, Lavar's stuff is fine when things are going well, but it backfires big time when the struggles come. They do tend to come.

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:47 pm

SCCats wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later
Won't effect anything. But it will be funny to see UCLA bring them back in desperation.

If they bring them back soon, I personally think funny is the wrong word choice. After ASU, UCLA is easily the team I root against the most - but at the same time - I'm still stuck on what I think is such a large mistake combined with an extremely fortunate outcome. The sooner those three kids are back playing for the team - the more UCLA agrees with Lavar that it was "no big deal".

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:29 pm

It won't be Alford's call

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:47 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Gonna be a rough season. Might see those kids sooner than later
UCLA wishes they had Lonzo back and the way Lonzo is shooting, he probably wishes he was back at UCLA.
Spiff, don't you think that Lavar sort of convinced the world that Lonzo (maybe even Lonzo) was not only NBA-ready but a top 3 pick? I think Lonzo will get through this and go on to become a good player. But man is he struggling. A second year in college would've done him wonders.

I've had these same thoughts watching him play this season.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:06 pm

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:08 pm

Only beat them by 28 sadly

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:54 am

MrBug708 wrote:Only beat them by 28 sadly

LOL

I'm not sure why this made me laugh out loud this morning, but great post.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:57 pm

Creighton 100
UCLA 89

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:31 am

Defense is bad. Like UCLA football bad

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:48 pm

UCLA vs. Montana did not happen in real life due to the fires. . . . but it did happen on twitter. http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketb ... me-at-ucla" target="_blank

Heh.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Lol at ESPN assuming that a UCLA game would add to traffic congestion in the campus area.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:56 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Lol at ESPN assuming that a UCLA game would add to traffic congestion in the campus area.

There are a few funny thoughts in this post, but not quite what you wanted to convey...lol

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:33 pm

UCLA misses an opportunity to get a nice non-conference win for the PAC.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:36 pm

ghostwhitehorse wrote:UCLA vs. Montana did not happen in real life due to the fires. . . . but it did happen on twitter. http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketb ... me-at-ucla" target="_blank

Heh.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:50 pm

UCLA’s usual irrelevance has returned.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:27 pm

Probably watching the beginning of the end of the Alford era.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:19 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Probably watching the beginning of the end of the Alford era.

Hope not. Hopefully this will drag on for another two years the way it did with Mora and then it becomes a no brainer.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:48 pm

zonagrad wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Probably watching the beginning of the end of the Alford era.
Hope not. Hopefully this will drag on for another two years the way it did with Mora and then it becomes a no brainer.

Pretty sure it's been dragging out for a few years. Can't imagine Dan is preparing for much these days, but the buyout won't be an issue at this point.

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