CatFanOneMil wrote:
The second link no worky...
All I'm suggesting is that sealed DOJ indictments are not a big deal, it protects their methods...basically what you've told me is there is a rumor from criminal attorneys that there are about 1500 sealed indictments from the DOJ and this is news somehow...but so far nothing even resembling evidence of this claim is to be found...a pdf from 2006? thats 11 years ago...and I can tell you this much...wiretaps are hard to get because every T must be crossed and every I dotted or it gets thrown out...once you expose the crime with charges your wiretap is done...nobody is wearing a wire right now trying to bring down new criminals in THESE cases...
My daughter is one of 2 people in her entire district in N California that are authorized to write wiretap subpoenas...its very precise work and not even her immediate boss gets to know what she is doing, they are that stringent on the State level...I can't imagine there is more evidence coming out...not really...
Everyone likes to parrot the mantra that this corruption is rampant in college hoops, tons of schools are gonna go down...I say thats a false narrative built on imagination...sure there are some bad eggs...but maybe just a handful at most...
I still maintain we've seen the worst of this entire fiasco as far as the Feds are concerned.
I'll see what I can do about the second link when I get on my home laptop tonight.
We have multiple credible sources saying the end goal are the shoe companies. If the FBI was worried about cover ups, we wouldn't know anything about Book, Louisville, Miami, USC, etc. That stuff would have remained sealed. Wiretaps in these times aren't as big of a deal when you have text messaging, social media and email, all of which are permanent and readily available through subpoena. These guys can sit there and delete every email and whatever else til they are blue in the face, yahoo and gmail and hotmail all have their own copies. Also, this was a three-year investigation, we don't know what they already have and what stages they are in each respective investigation.
As for the sealed indictments themselves - this is something I have been keeping up with for over a year. I'm not going to get into exactly what because quite a bit of it is tied to the political world. Of course, politics is tied to money, big business, etc., and when you are digging through corruption, you are going to come across more AND come across people who know someone who knows someone who is doing XYZ for a completely unrelated business scandal. These people cut deals, which is how this particular investigation came to fruition. You also got to realize it is very possible the FBI has been sitting on quite a bit of evidence for years - former FBI directors and Attorney Generals may have prevented things going further because they wanted to focus on other illicit activity.
As for the number of sealed indictments being out of the ordinary, I can make that call on my own (I cant explain how I can, for good reasons). I could tell something big was going down before it got over 800. Multiple attorneys who have been doing this for a long time confirmed what I already knew. The NCAA part IS purely speculation on my part, but that speculation isnt too much of a reach when you look at what has happened so far, multiple reliable sources (here and in the media) talking about how huge of a problem this is, and having a good understanding of how the DOJ and federal law enforcement agencies operate. Ask yourself this: why would the FBI in these busy times say, hey we are going to take down 10-12 programs and/or coaches, ruin a few kids amateur statuses and call it a day? One, you aren't going to fix anything doing that and two, there is no incentive to do so. However, Nike and Adidas are big businesses and this problem on a grand scale =
civil forfeiture money (10s or maybe even 100s of millions) and actually chopping off the head of the snake. And people playing with dirty money usually have their hands in several different things. To be clear, I highly doubt even 1% of these indictments involve this stuff, but common sense tells you the FBI wouldnt even be touching this stuff if there werent bigger plans and it is highly possible that 2, 3, 4 of those indictments involve some form of illicit activity within NCAA basketball, possibly even football at this point. The FBI doesn't always operate how you see in the movies. Its not always 100 percent secrecy til its time to nail em and then they nail em. Sometimes they want stuff out there, it puts heat on people and you dont have to have formal indictments to put heat on people. Think of that old saying: When you turn on the lights, the rats scatter. People make mistakes when the light is on. That is when Coach A finds out what is going on and calls Assistant Coach C to make sure their ducks are in order and their stories are straight without realizing that the FBI has been watching and listening to Assistant Coach C for a year.
. Man, yet again, this thread is sooo depressing yet needed.