Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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My rotation players are:

PJC
Trier
Barcello
Ayton
Ristic

Barcello, Lee, Pinder... and Rawle soon.

Dylan Smith can get lost.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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Not enough effort on the glass for us. LBSU's shot % is about half due to our pressure and half due to their being bad shooters. We have missed a bunch of open looks, so it's good we got those looks. Kinda meh overall. Good to see Barcello pulling the trigger more.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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azcat49 wrote:Saturday against UNLV on the road will be telling
I think the Cats win a close one and demonstrate what they're really made of.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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If the 49ers put up less than their average # of TOs against us ..... that'll be a very telling stat. Not that they need much help, but still.
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we have more threes now than all three games in Atlantis
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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When Ristic and PJC are the only ones rebounding good things aren't going to happen often.
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Not a big concern but Ayton should be winning most tipoffs. Probably just a timing problem.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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Trier. Time.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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Another deflated, flat start in the second half.
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Lee is total energy. He needs more PT
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Catintheheat wrote:When Ristic and PJC are the only ones rebounding good things aren't going to happen often.
Ouch
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they have 9 fts, we have 4!
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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Too much help defense, not enough defending your man.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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No defense.
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PJC was guarding a guy a foot taller in the paint who had the ball. That should never happen.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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C'mon Trier, that duck in pass that was a TO was such a formulaic move,; he didn't really look to see if it was an open lance, just kinda shoved it in there.
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Smith and Randolph are 1-12... WTF!
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Is focus a coahcable trait???
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Smith and Randolph 0-7 from 3!
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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We look awful
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Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I’m not worried about CSM....I think that will pass in time and he will be ok. I am worried that A&M, who just punked @USC will come in and hang a home loss on us.....or worse. Our D is not good....LBSU sucks and is missing opportunities.
The game is in Phoenix. Not that it helps much, but at least it won't count as a home loss.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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Here comes their run/our hambone slump.
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This is discouraging.
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Longhorned wrote:This is discouraging.

Hey, they called the timeout this time!
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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We're not a very good team

Defense is not good
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Ristic has only 4 points.
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Trier can not rebound.
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Longhorned wrote:This is discouraging.
Very. I can’t wait to alkins returns and I can’t believe im advocating for Miller to shorten the bench
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AZCatGirl wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I’m not worried about CSM....I think that will pass in time and he will be ok. I am worried that A&M, who just punked @USC will come in and hang a home loss on us.....or worse. Our D is not good....LBSU sucks and is missing opportunities.
The game is in Phoenix. Not that it helps much, but at least it won't count as a home loss.
Thanks AZCatGirl....had forgotten it is in Phoenix. Will be a HUGE test for us....just like @UNLV will be.
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Lavin lol
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We're still being outboarded on the O glass.
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RondaeShimmy wrote:We're not a very good team

Defense is not good
I want to see defensive possessions that don't end either a turnover, a layup, or an open 3. Luckily the last several possessions have been turnovers. But we need a lot more of that forced shot clock penalty.
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Wow Ristic
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That LBSU schedule is a huge money maker for their AD. Probably supports every other program.
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Feels like our offense is either give it to Ayton or chuck a 3
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Does CSM ever teach blocking out? Dismal! No excuse for that O rebound.
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Pinder is Pinder.
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There's still hope for Lee and Barcello this season. Akot is getting fewer and fewer minutes. I guess he's too raw. I'd still rather see him than Pinder and Smith, though. And Randolph's 17 points against Purdue was a mirage, it seems.
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Re: Game 7, vs Long Beach State (2017-2018)

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Which of the freshmen do you most believe in (including Smith)

Lee and Barcello are the best freshmen (not including Ayton).

Akot, Smith, Randolph.... sigh.

My rotation includes:
PJC
Trier
Pinder
Ayton
Ristic

Lee and Barcello off the bench. Smith, Akot and Randolph not getting many minutes.
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Move your feet Zo.
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Is Akot in the doghouse or hurt?
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PJC is having a good game.
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Alieberman wrote:Is Akot in the doghouse or hurt?
Doghouse. He has played maybe 4 mins.
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PJC is All World as always at home against inferior competition.
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TatetheGreat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Is Akot in the doghouse or hurt?
Doghouse. He has played maybe 4 mins.
Maybe he is slacking in practice.
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We needed to stop the bleeding and create positive momentum. This game does those things. Getting a good start was super important. It isn't gonna solve itself overnight, but this has been a nice step so far.
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Longhorned wrote:PJC is All World as always at home against inferior competition.
PJC is what he is, a pretty good mid-major PG.
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Catintheheat wrote:
TatetheGreat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Is Akot in the doghouse or hurt?
Doghouse. He has played maybe 4 mins.
Maybe he is slacking in practice.
No idea. He'll probably enter in garbage time.
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Alieberman wrote:Is Akot in the doghouse or hurt?

Funny, huh? At first he seemed like a stellar producer and then ... Then Randalf who looked off started looking good. Hard to figure.
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They have 3 more O boards than we do.
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