Valley of the Sun Shootout

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:32 pm

4th row from the floor. Pretty stoked.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:41 pm

A&M now 16th in the country. Home against OK St tonight and they play @USC Sunday

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:53 pm

Get your tickets. This is gonna be a good one

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:56 pm

Watching A&M dismantle USC in LA. A&M has size, athleticism and toughness.............Purdue on steroids

The Cats are going to have to improve by leaps and bounds just to make it respectable.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:05 pm

Yeah it looks like we're pretty fucked atm.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:32 pm

TAMU is a Top 10 team now.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:42 pm

Good let's go fuck em up and get back into the top 25.

All these kids like to tweet about being ballers, well it's put up or shut up time.

Go cats.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:29 am

So there is two games correct? GCU plays before or after us? Who do they play. Got my tickets in section 124

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:31 am

azcat49 wrote:So there is two games correct? GCU plays before or after us? Who do they play. Got my tickets in section 124

St. Johns

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:52 am

azcat49 wrote:So there is two games correct? GCU plays before or after us? Who do they play. Got my tickets in section 124

After our game

Arizona Fans Party at 5
Texas A&M vs Arizona at 7
St. John's vs GCU at 930

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:57 am

Fans party is where?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:01 pm

azcat49 wrote:Fans party is where?

The Coors Light Cold Zone at the arena.

Where they do the pre and post game shows for the Suns.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:20 pm

Looking at the seat map on Ticketmaster, looks like the lower bowl is 75% and the upper bowl is 30% full. Knowing there are a number of tix sold to GCU folks, and Valley fans show up late, the stadium prolly will look less full than that. The FBI investigation and losing the 3 in the Bahamas sure didn't help to build up buzz or momentum around this team going into the game. An unranked Arizona vs Top 10 TAMU looks a lot less appealing than a #2 vs #10 matchup. My vote would be to put all early season, neutral court games in Vegas or San Diego going forward. Places where regular fans can get to via a small road trip. And if the CATS stink it up, hey, you are at least in a town where you can find something to do. Forget this Bahamas and Hawaii crap where it is too expensive and you have to plan WAY in advance unless you are a person of means. Also, I hate to say it, but Phoenix doesn't look like a good destination either if there isn't a brisk last minute or walk-up traffic.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:25 pm

UALoco wrote:Looking at the seat map on Ticketmaster, looks like the lower bowl is 75% and the upper bowl is 30% full. Knowing there are a number of tix sold to GCU folks, and Valley fans show up late, the stadium prolly will look less full than that. The FBI investigation and losing the 3 in the Bahamas sure didn't help to build up buzz or momentum around this team going into the game. An unranked Arizona vs Top 10 TAMU looks a lot less appealing than a #2 vs #10 matchup. My vote would be to put all early season, neutral court games in Vegas or San Diego going forward. Places where regular fans can get to via a small road trip. And if the CATS stink it up, hey, you are at least in a town where you can find something to do. Forget this Bahamas and Hawaii crap where it is too expensive and you have to plan WAY in advance unless you are a person of means. Also, I hate to say it, but Phoenix doesn't look like a good destination either if there isn't a brisk last minute or walk-up traffic.

or Tucson people can make the drive once every few year

or the department can do a better job at advertising it

or the promoters and the owners of the event can do a better job

or we can stop being fair weather fans

GCU has promoted this big time. There has been very little promotion by UA and the location media just picked it up the last week or so

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:07 pm

PHXCATS wrote:The Coors Light Cold Zone at the arena.
Where they do the pre and post game shows for the Suns.

Hmmm I was thinking about checking out Arcadia Tavern

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:09 pm

Jefe wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:The Coors Light Cold Zone at the arena.
Where they do the pre and post game shows for the Suns.
Hmmm I was thinking about checking out Arcadia Tavern

1) There wont be anyone there
2) It is under new management and now an asu bar
3) Joke is really old and things were really great there when you have standing room only 2 hours before tip off and the news coming every year to cover the parties, so no reason to joke.
4) The Cold Zone is where you will want to be if you are an Arizona fan

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:10 pm

I like that Machina is like "that joke is 2 years old" but I'm gonna defend it anyway, using my new handle.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:15 pm

PHXCATS wrote:2)It is under new management and now an asu bar
3) Joke is really old and things were really great there when you have standing room only 2 hours before tip off and the news coming every year to cover the parties, so no reason to joke.

Those bastards

I actually wasn't kidding. I've got 8 people heading up at 2 and was looking for a place to pregame/eat

Found the Wildcats pregame party info: https://www.facebook.com/events/1383613365080436/" target="_blank

RSVP: http://arizonaalumni.com/event/phoenix- ... tick-arena" target="_blank

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:17 pm

Downtown will be a better bet for you then between 2 and 5

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:13 pm

Jefe, just want to give a shout out for the no anchovies tip last week! It was clutch till we got ran out of the gym by NcState. Love that place as did the wife and kids.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:53 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Jefe, just want to give a shout out for the no anchovies tip last week! It was clutch till we got ran out of the gym by NcState. Love that place as did the wife and kids.

Of course! But we must'nt ever talk about those game again! They never happened

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:42 pm

Just realized it will probably be hostile environment. Gcu fans and Tempe state fans will be in numbers to boo the good guys.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:47 pm

I think GCU roots for us given ASSU won't play them and we will

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:54 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:Just realized it will probably be hostile environment. Gcu fans and Tempe state fans will be in numbers to boo the good guys.

There's really no bad blood with GCU. Doubt ASU fans show up on a work night. There will be plenty of bandwagon A&M fans and probably some local St. John's fans. It should be a primarily UA crowd during our game but still have a neutral court feel like at a Pac-12 tournament game.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:19 pm

Is Justin Simon still leading St Johns in minutes and rebounds?

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:31 pm

Shooting 100% from deep

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:44 pm

Are those rebounds and assists accurate? If so, those are impressive numbers

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:36 pm

Justin Simon is soft as Charmin. He's like 85% baby powder.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:43 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Justin Simon is soft as Charmin. He's like 85% baby powder.

Is he really? Wow, a name from the past.....can’t believe he’s only a a Sophomore. I can’t recall but wasn’t he a decent defender? Or at least had the potential to be?

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:47 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Justin Simon is soft as Charmin. He's like 85% baby powder.
Is he really? Wow, a name from the past.....can’t believe he’s only a a Sophomore. I can’t recall but wasn’t he a decent defender? Or at least had the potential to be?

Yep....he is a very good defender per this article: https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... basketball

DAMN! Why did we lose him again?

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:57 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Justin Simon is soft as Charmin. He's like 85% baby powder.
Is he really? Wow, a name from the past.....can’t believe he’s only a a Sophomore. I can’t recall but wasn’t he a decent defender? Or at least had the potential to be?

Yep....he is a very good defender per this article: https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketbal ... basketball

DAMN! Why did we lose him again?

http://tucson.com/sports/blogs/pascoe/a ... e16f1.html" target="_blank

“I enjoyed my year at the University of Arizona,” Justin Simon said in a statement from UA. “I would like to thank my coaching staff, teammates and the incredible fans here for all they did for me. My decision to transfer is centered on playing time. I would like a bigger role as a basketball player. Hopefully, I will be able to find this at my next program.”

Kobi, Rawle, Trier, Kadeem, PJC etc would be playing in his sophomore year. Also Arizona were about to land Ferguson.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:28 am

Thanks RondaeShimmy. Sucks as we could use him in the rotation about now....especially as a Junior....one would expect he’d possibly could be an elite defender under CSM at this point in his career.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:44 am

Didn't Tyler Dorsey decommit from U of A and go to Oregon because Justin Simon was recruited over him? That was a double whammy. We shot ourselves in the foot twice over that one. I vaguely remember that one or 2 established Wildcats were tight with Simon and preferred him over Dorsey. It may even have been Trier. It is nice to see someone as soft as Charmin rebounding as well as Justin is now.
At least Tyler never hurt us too much while he was a Duck. ;<.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:53 am

They're now ranked #7

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:21 am

We lost Justin Simon because he wanted more PT and he didn't want to play defense at Arizona.

Now he's a third year player getting PT and playing defense like his physical tools allow. Who could have seen that coming... well, everyone except for a bratty project player who transferred at the first sign of adversity.

Re: Dorsey, he left because we got Trier.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:44 am

Texas A&M -1

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:55 am

RondaeShimmy wrote:They're now ranked #7

We are definitely the underdog. This is a major test for us on a neutral court. If we're better than we showed in the Bahamas, this game is where we need to show improvement.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:33 pm

we're number 36! we're number 36!

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:44 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:Texas A&M -1

That's the KenPom prediction - his model isn't all that reliable until about Jan or Feb when the prior season influence burns off.

Actual spread is A&M -3.5.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:47 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:Texas A&M -1
That's the KenPom prediction - his model isn't all that reliable until about Jan or Feb when the prior season influence burns off.

Actual spread is A&M -3.5.

Nah it opened as a pick em then moved to 1 when I posted that spread. Now its moved to 3½

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-bas ... me/2100#BT" target="_blank

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:53 pm

Guys how the fuck are we going to match-up with DJ Hogg? He's 6'9" and plays the three and he's shooting lights out from behind the arc.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:59 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Guys how the fuck are we going to match-up with DJ Hogg? He's 6'9" and plays the three.

If Akot was an option...otherwise, we're looking at Randolph unless Alkins is back.

This is a good matchup for Dusan and Ayton to play together against Davis and Williams.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:04 pm

Not a betting man, but I love AZ with the points in this game. The #2 team in the country is going to show up one of these nights. We saw flashes on Saturday.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:08 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Guys how the fuck are we going to match-up with DJ Hogg? He's 6'9" and plays the three.
If Akot was an option...otherwise, we're looking at Randolph unless Alkins is back.

This is a good matchup for Dusan and Ayton to play together against Davis and Williams.

If Alkins were back, Miller could at least counter by making Hogg defend somebody. But since that's unlikely, Hogg gets a free pass on both ends unless Randolph gives everyone something to talk about.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:09 pm

Randolph is terrible defensively

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:20 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Guys how the fuck are we going to match-up with DJ Hogg? He's 6'9" and plays the three.
If Akot was an option...otherwise, we're looking at Randolph unless Alkins is back.

This is a good matchup for Dusan and Ayton to play together against Davis and Williams.
If Alkins were back, Miller could at least counter by making Hogg defend somebody. But since that's unlikely, Hogg gets a free pass on both ends unless Randolph gives everyone something to talk about.

Yeah, but Smith has been worse. Lee isn't a 3 and Akot seems lost.

I'm not necessarily hyped about Randolph, but process of elimination leaves him unless Rawle is back.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:21 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:Randolph is terrible defensively

Maybe their guards will have enough easy layups so they won't have to kick it out to Hogg.

Anyway, I'm just kidding. If you can hold Hogg to 20, which would be his season high, you can win the game in other ways. We're just afraid because the history of wings going off against Arizona.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:09 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Guys how the fuck are we going to match-up with DJ Hogg? He's 6'9" and plays the three and he's shooting lights out from behind the arc.

You be aggressive and drive at him early hoping to get a couple of fouls and then bench time. I'd do this to any good player, attack attack attack. Foul trouble is the perfect defense. I know he isn't foul prone, but make him become foul prone.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:14 pm

I agree with the attack-mode philosophy. Gotta come out with an edge because it will be near impossible to dig ourselves out of a 10+ point hole.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:15 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:I agree with the attack-mode philosophy. Gotta come out with an edge because it will be near impossible to dig ourselves out of a 10+ point hole.

I feel like Sean Miller does not attack guys that often in that aspect. Hope it happens.

Also I like a good hard clean foul on him. Let him know it is not going to be a stroll in the park.

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