Game 9, vs Texas A&M @ Talking Stick (2017-2018)

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:32 pm

Game went downhill when Trier came back in...

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:33 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:Game went downhill when Trier came back in...

I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

loomer · Post by **loomer** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:33 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:Game went downhill when Trier came back in...

The game definitely grinded to a halt

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:33 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:Game went downhill when Trier came back in...

A&M also called a timeout and regrouped.....

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:34 pm

84Cat wrote:Akot is just lost and unprepared for the college game

That's my impression, as well. The slacking in practice excuse we heard might be BS

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:35 pm

84Cat wrote:Akot is just lost and unprepared for the college game

Shouldn't Akot be a senior in HS this year? Still see him on the draft charts, not sure why.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:36 pm

Randolph can always get that shot. Run the offense when nothing is there.

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:37 pm

DS3!!!

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:37 pm

Dylan Smith is hitting his shots better the last couple of games. He keeps doing that and I want him on the floor.

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:37 pm

Smith is the toughest matchup we have on the court right now. Getting into the d and making things happen.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:38 pm

Barcello is also playing much better. I really like his court vision.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:39 pm

Trier needs to be limited in PT until he starts playing as part of a team.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:40 pm

Catintheheat wrote:Barcello is also playing much better. I really like his court vision.

Reminds me of PJC as an underclassmen, great home games, but disappears away from McKale. Until today.

Smith is really impressive today too.

jsbowl16 · Post by **jsbowl16** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:40 pm

Trier turnover foul

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:40 pm

BTW

Trier's problem:

Low basketball IQ

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:43 pm

This year's team or parenting, cant figure out which is the bigger rollercoaster.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:43 pm

Longhorned wrote:BTW

Trier's problem:

Low basketball IQ

If I was scouting for NBA talent I wouldn't choose Trier. He is playing himself into the second round at best. Still, it is a long season and he has time to turn it around.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:43 pm

WTF are these fouls?

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:43 pm

Longhorned wrote:BTW

Trier's problem:

Low basketball IQ

I have never liked that concept...

... I see a kid who reverts to free agent, one-on-team mode when stressed.... maybe similar ideas....

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:44 pm

Barcello has great vision. He knows where his teammates are and more importantly, he reads space and position of defenders. The more he plays, the better he'll get. Gonna be a really good four year player for us.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:44 pm

Come on Dus... bad foul

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:45 pm

DS3!!!

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:45 pm

Those layups by A&M are too easy.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:46 pm

Who did Smith change bodies with?

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:46 pm

Longhorned wrote:BTW

Trier's problem:

Low basketball IQ

I think another problem (or possibly a related problem) on the offensive end is Trier is not as athletic as Trier thinks Trier is.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:46 pm

Barcello needs to learn to follow his shot.

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:47 pm

3 on Hogg. . . err. . .1st Flagg

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:50 pm

Catintheheat wrote:Barcello needs to learn to follow his shot.

I don't think Miller allows his guards to, since the deep guard needs to stay back to stop any fast break.

How does that coordinate with the other guard? I don't know.

ghostwhitehorse · Post by **ghostwhitehorse** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:50 pm

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:50 pm

They took too long to take the last shot again. The Cats seemed to fall apart at the end of the half. But overall a good showing.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:51 pm

Way to end the fucking half guys

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:51 pm

Senior PG ends the half with a no chance shot swatted and giving up a 3 to take us from up one with a chance for more to down two at the half.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:51 pm

As has oft been said, PJC is not really Arizona good.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:51 pm

Nice jackass end to the half.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:53 pm

With Trier having 0 points Im worried he will come out in the second half forcing shots and hurting us. Although I suppose he does that pretty regularly.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:53 pm

If Ayton is on the floor w/out Ristic, he needs to be in the low block and he needs to touch the ball. Do that, and then A&M must double and get out of position and we can move the ball and get shots. I'm tired of watching us try and beat people off the dribble because we can't. PJC can't go in among the trees and expect to score. So frustrating.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:54 pm

billk78 wrote:With Trier having 0 points Im worried he will come out in the second half forcing shots and hurting us. Although I suppose he does that pretty regularly.

And he'll spend the second half the same place he spent the first: on the bench.

CatMG · Post by **CatMG** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:54 pm

Hard to believe a team can stink this bad yet only be down by 2 points at the half to a #7 ranked team. Can somebody explain to me why Arizona players keep passing the ball to the wrong team?

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:55 pm

billk78 wrote:With Trier having 0 points Im worried he will come out in the second half forcing shots and hurting us. Although I suppose he does that pretty regularly.

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Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:55 pm

Optimistic take:

Trier and PJC did nothing and we're down two.

Pessimistic take:

What are the chances PJC picks it up? What are the chances aTm shoots under 40% in the second half?

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:55 pm

CatMG wrote:Hard to believe a team can stink this bad yet only be down by 2 points at the half to a #7 ranked team. Can somebody explain to me why Arizona players keep passing the ball to the wrong team?

The half wasn't as bad as you are making it. The Cats did play good defense during some stretches.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:55 pm

Thought it was a very good half. I felt like we didnt play great but are hanging right in there. Need some better outside shooting or just tell trier to stop forcing. Still feel like Ristic is a huge liability. Barcello is a better distributor than PJC. Dylan Smith has the hot hand. Ayton hasnt really gotten going either. A&M seems to have excellent interior defense.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:56 pm

pc in NM wrote:
Longhorned wrote:BTW

Trier's problem:

Low basketball IQ
I have never liked that concept...

... I see a kid who reverts to free agent, one-on-team mode when stressed.... maybe similar ideas....

It's pretty clear that some of the smartest people have a low basketball IQ. Maybe Trier is one of those.

Just really unfruitful decisions on the court.

Rawle Alkins has a really high basketball IQ. That will help when he returns.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:56 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Optimistic take:

Trier and PJC did nothing and we're down two.

Pessimistic take:

What are the chances PJC picks it up? What are the chances aTm shoots under 40% in the second half?

It's sad that Barcello might be a better player than PJC. But the fact that he's a freshmen and will make a lot of mistakes, and PJC is a senior will still limit Barcello's time.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:57 pm

So did coach finally hold Trier accountable for his defense or was he in foul trouble.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:59 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:So did coach finally hold Trier accountable for his defense or was he in foul trouble.

They went on a nice run with him off the court. Not sure why Miller kept him out. When he was in the game he was invisible except for forcing a few 3s and missing.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:00 pm

billk78 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Optimistic take:

Trier and PJC did nothing and we're down two.

Pessimistic take:

What are the chances PJC picks it up? What are the chances aTm shoots under 40% in the second half?
It's sad that Barcello might be a better player than PJC. But the fact that he's a freshmen and will make a lot of mistakes, and PJC is a senior will still limit Barcello's time.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:01 pm

billk78 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Optimistic take:

Trier and PJC did nothing and we're down two.

Pessimistic take:

What are the chances PJC picks it up? What are the chances aTm shoots under 40% in the second half?
It's sad that Barcello might be a better player than PJC. But the fact that he's a freshmen and will make a lot of mistakes, and PJC is a senior will still limit Barcello's time.

I would pee myself in joy if Barcello seized the reins.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:01 pm

zonagrad wrote:If Ayton is on the floor w/out Ristic, he needs to be in the low block and he needs to touch the ball. Do that, and then A&M must double and get out of position and we can move the ball and get shots. I'm tired of watching us try and beat people off the dribble because we can't. PJC can't go in among the trees and expect to score. So frustrating.

I wish miller would change his offense so that the 4 goes to the 3-point line to set the useless screen instead of having the 5 set that screen.
IMO it inhibits the 5 from really working at getting good position on the low block.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:01 pm

Merkin wrote:
billk78 wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Optimistic take:

Trier and PJC did nothing and we're down two.

Pessimistic take:

What are the chances PJC picks it up? What are the chances aTm shoots under 40% in the second half?
It's sad that Barcello might be a better player than PJC. But the fact that he's a freshmen and will make a lot of mistakes, and PJC is a senior will still limit Barcello's time.

I agree with him. But it's not something I could see Miller doing.

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