btfd16 wrote:Idk why people are so gung ho about a Cecil or Salavea head coach.. I would love either as a DC, but would be underwhelmed if we hired them as a HC
It's just an idea that this would be a destination job for an alumn who bleeds red and blue. Something they have waited for their whole life and would bring enthusiasm and a burning, hungry desire to succeed here for the long haul.
I would rather it be a Chuck Cecil type who was currently a hot successful HC at a smaller school, but I am willing to give my support to something other than being a stepping stone for someone or a career rehab or retirement gig for someone else.
Just don’t play the “head coaching game” at all.
As many of us expect/feel deep down (see above post), we can’t win THAT GAME.
ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
scumdevils86 wrote:I don't really want a retread guy who's in his 50s or 60s and was fired from a couple of jobs already. Give me some 35-40 year old dude who's out there to prove himself at his first big gig. I haven't done enough research to know who that might be yet so oh well.
I also agree it has probably already been decided by Heeke...and it likely is some old retread. Shrug. AZ football plods along.
Agree with you 100%. Hiring another retread just kicks the can down the road another 5 years before we hire another retread.
btfd16 wrote:Idk why people are so gung ho about a Cecil or Salavea head coach.. I would love either as a DC, but would be underwhelmed if we hired them as a HC
I saw Hansen pushing Cecil, Hunley and the UCLA one game HC, forgot his name.
THERE IS A REASON THEY ARE LIFE LONG POSITION COACHES.
if no one ever game them a chance at HC, there is a reason why. You don't do this in a P5 program.
Think the UCLA guy is Jedd Fisch mentioned in article I posted earlier, don't think he's a fit but do think a young coordinator who has proved himself and has had good tutelage could work, see Kelly and Smart.
ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Can you say, that it's a name that you and most would be stoked by or meh...
If this happens, as with all things, some will be excited, some will be meh, a few may be unhappy. You can’t please all the people all the time.
I was pretty pleased, I’ll say that.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
ramcat wrote:Can you say, that it's a name that you and most would be stoked by or meh...
If this happens, as with all things, some will be excited, some will be meh, a few may be unhappy. You can’t please all the people all the time.
I was pretty pleased, I’ll say that.
Just had to use an adjective with such a wide range, didn't you?
Well, it wasn’t Saban, Urban, or Pete Carroll soooooooooo.......
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
Seems Chief has been pretty absent in all of this, so guessing with his mentions of Sumlin previously, that he might prefer to let all the banter go on, and then jump back in upon announcement, that he tried to let the board know, and that his inside access has been validated.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
Well based on Chi's prior coach opinions, I guess we can eliminate Butch Jones, Les Miles, and Major Applewhite. Eh, at least it's not Butch. Unless you're really underplaying the "pretty pleased" part
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ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
What has been the problem with him? I saw after teams, like Arkansas, investigated him further they backed off? Thought I read something about a possible gambling problem, but not sure.
ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
He's not a candidate for this job, he'll be lucky to be a candidate at any other job quite frankly.
Is it a RIchRod defensive recruit?
And I said, ‘That last thing is what you can't get...Nobody can get to that last thing. We keep on living in hopes of catching it once and for all.’ Jack Kerouac, On The Road
ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
What has been the problem with him? I saw after teams, like Arkansas, investigated him further they backed off? Thought I read something about a possible gambling problem, but not sure.
Lol. Wow that would be a huge red flag if I’m an ad.
ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
What has been the problem with him? I saw after teams, like Arkansas, investigated him further they backed off? Thought I read something about a possible gambling problem, but not sure.
No idea but he seems great to me. He got the most out of Taylor Kelley and bercovicci and was a great recruiter at ASU. Memphis seems to be flourishing under him, especially qb play. He has actual Arizona recruiting experience, and isn’t a re tread. Win-win.....win
btfd16 wrote:Idk why people are so gung ho about a Cecil or Salavea head coach.. I would love either as a DC, but would be underwhelmed if we hired them as a HC
I saw Hansen pushing Cecil, Hunley and the UCLA one game HC, forgot his name.
THERE IS A REASON THEY ARE LIFE LONG POSITION COACHES.
if no one ever game them a chance at HC, there is a reason why. You don't do this in a P5 program.
YOU JUST NEED TO DEAL WITH THE IDEA THAT OTHERS DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT.
If RR had any sense of U of A athletics history, he would have known triangles and the program don't mix. The "Triangle of Secrecy" was about as doomed from the start as our best team in U of A history was against the triangle and 2.
TheGreatCatsby wrote:If RR had any sense of U of A athletics history, he would have known triangles and the program don't mix. The "Triangle of Secrecy" was about as doomed from the start as our best team in U of A history was against the triangle and 2.
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Makes me feel a lot better. With that cryptic message I have to think Sumlin. Still dreaming about Lane, but can't see that. I think us board fans are different than casual fans. Don't think the smaller school coaches (Klienman, Applewhite, Littrell, etc) would draw a casual fan to a game.
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Well, I don't think hiring an ex-cat is necessarily going to drive attendance, neither are young coaches or most of the retread names being floated. To move the attendance needle, I think that leaves Sumlin or Kiffen, I'll go with Sumlin.
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chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Makes me feel a lot better. With that cryptic message I have to think Sumlin. Still dreaming about Lane, but can't see that. I think us board fans are different than casual fans. Don't think the smaller school coaches (Klienman, Applewhite, Littrell, etc) would draw a casual fan to a game.
If we are only thinking attendance, I think Lane would be better. FAU received such a huge attendance increase from him (and just general excitement). Our fans are obviously different than FAU as a whole but I'd think he'd have a pretty good impact.
Not that I am guessing it's Lane or Sumlin, I'm waiting to hear from others too.
EDIT: Actually thinking more, considering we are a basketball school primarily, Kiffin seems like a good fit to make something notable of the football program.
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chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
... and just what drives attendance, which of course, should make *that* his #1 priority?
A reputation for winning?
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
Cool. So its either pimp canes and 5 star transfers every year or the guy who couldn’t win at USC.
And I said, ‘That last thing is what you can't get...Nobody can get to that last thing. We keep on living in hopes of catching it once and for all.’ Jack Kerouac, On The Road
