Arizona Coaching Search

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:04 am

chiefzona wrote:Sumlin and Baldwin are huge players but I think there are 2 to 3 others now. Heeke showed his hand. Bargain power completely gone.

Like the rest of the folks who claim to know what's going on... I'll take a pass on your "insider Info"

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:07 am

I brought up Seth Litrell the other day as a joke. Wouldn’t be surprised at this point.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:07 am

Alieberman wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Sumlin and Baldwin are huge players but I think there are 2 to 3 others now. Heeke showed his hand. Bargain power completely gone.
Like the rest of the folks who claim to know what's going on... I'll take a pass on your "insider Info"

I’m not an insider. No one is. I’m an outsider looking in.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:12 am

SCCats wrote:
Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Any ideas who?

Mark Stoops?
Holy shit Mark is making $3.4M as Kentucky coach

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:14 am

RondaeShimmy wrote:
SCCats wrote:
Chicat wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Any ideas who?

Mark Stoops?
Holy shit Mark is making $3.4M as Kentucky coach

Welcome to having a successful TV deal

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:18 am

UK makes more from football than basketball. Thanks a lot Larry Scott.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:20 am

It's going to be Fipp after all

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:21 am

Postmaster wrote:It's going to be Fipp after all

Is that you Hansen?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:22 am

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:22 am

I'm just happy that when I woke up, the Navy coach had declined the offer. No, I wasn't afraid he would bring the triple option here. I was afraid that, because that has been the only offense he has run, he wouldn't really know WHAT kind of offense he would run. As someone said several pages back, we don't want to be an experiment.

I hope it is Baldwin, out of the names that have been floating around.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:24 am

Name Yates the coach, get a good DC, and let's get to work.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:25 am

UAEebs86 wrote:

If it's Yates I request to be blocked from ever seeing the football forum on this website.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:30 am

UAEebs86 wrote:

Yeah, yeah, you don't know shit either Lev.

OSUCat · Post by **OSUCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:30 am

...Bah...Yates makes no sense! No HC experience. Bad Defense at Arizona. Has his name came up for any HC job? Even like Nevada and UNLV type of jobs?

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:43 am

Sid wrote:
FlyonWall wrote:What do you suppose the boosters get out of donating the $ millions to build stadium upgrades, practice field upgrades, coach buyouts, and coach retention packages? Rich people are not always that altruistic. I sort of understand if you get naming rights like the Lowell-Stevens facility, but still not really. Is it access to hob nob with the AD and coach? Is it impressing your other rich friends with how much you have to donate? It isn't like the donors make a big show in public about these donations (like I would if I gave away so much).
Tax write off’s.

Not no more..

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:44 am

OSUCat wrote:...Bah...Yates makes no sense! No HC experience. Bad Defense at Arizona. Has his name came up for any HC job? Even like Nevada and UNLV type of jobs?

He has 11 days of interim AZ head coach experience..

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:46 am

OSUCat wrote:...Bah...Yates makes no sense! No HC experience. Bad Defense at Arizona. Has his name came up for any HC job? Even like Nevada and UNLV type of jobs?

Tate wants Yates. When the patients run the asylum...

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:47 am

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:47 am

UAEebs86 wrote:
Alieberman wrote:There is a reason you never pay for premium.

All of these Arizona "Insiders" are just as clueless as the rest of us. They don't know anything.

I let my subscription lapse awhile back (originally signed up on a special) and resisted Scheer's latest 3 for 1 offer. Thanks for confirming I did the right thing.

Wish we could get a few of the old posters from there over here (Winger, SalimsHeadband, DCCat,etc.)

Total shit show over there and those good posters are buried in all the rabble. Don't know why they feel their loyalty to Scheer precludes them from hanging out here too. There's a new thread for every thought and Scheer's as guilty as any of them for that. Impossible to follow and exacerbated by this search a hundred-fold. If anything, it's convinced me to cancel.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:51 am

Merkin wrote:
OSUCat wrote:...Bah...Yates makes no sense! No HC experience. Bad Defense at Arizona. Has his name came up for any HC job? Even like Nevada and UNLV type of jobs?

Tate wants Yates. When the patients run the asylum...

At this point hard not to conclude Heeke has been admitted.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:52 am

Sources tell FootballScoop this tweet spooked Arizona’s president and gave him pause during the search. Arizona and Niumatalolo were already well into negotiations at this point sources tell FootballScoop. Saturday morning both the search firm and Niumatalolo thought they would get a deal done we are told; but University leadership had yet to fully approve the hire. Later Saturday the public began to see tweets DHR hoped would begin to sway Arizona leadership back in support of Niumatalolo; but it appears those tweets (from writers and coaches) were about two days too late.

This tells me all I need to know about the media's role in coaching hires.

http://footballscoop.com/news/ken-niuma ... h-process/" target="_blank

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:53 am

Postmaster wrote:
Lando05 wrote:
Alieberman wrote:There is a reason you never pay for premium.

All of these Arizona "Insiders" are just as clueless as the rest of us. They don't know anything.
True, I'm really thinking of canceling Scheer has been a joke during this process and an asshole imo when given constructive feedback. The "insider websites" don't have any info, infact I only like the other site because 97cats and Winger used to post there a lot and do a podcast from time to time. Now with out any of that, i don't really see the value the other sites add, when we have a much better community here.
You get Tiangle and TOOL's witty word play.

Fixed it for you

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:55 am

btfd16 wrote:
Sources tell FootballScoop this tweet spooked Arizona’s president and gave him pause during the search. Arizona and Niumatalolo were already well into negotiations at this point sources tell FootballScoop. Saturday morning both the search firm and Niumatalolo thought they would get a deal done we are told; but University leadership had yet to fully approve the hire. Later Saturday the public began to see tweets DHR hoped would begin to sway Arizona leadership back in support of Niumatalolo; but it appears those tweets (from writers and coaches) were about two days too late.
This tells me all I need to know about the media's role in coaching hires.

http://footballscoop.com/news/ken-niuma ... h-process/" target="_blank

Tate's tweet really spooked Robbins? C'mon man,

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:03 am

Ya think?!

prh · Post by **prh** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:05 am

btfd16 wrote:
Sources tell FootballScoop this tweet spooked Arizona’s president and gave him pause during the search. Arizona and Niumatalolo were already well into negotiations at this point sources tell FootballScoop. Saturday morning both the search firm and Niumatalolo thought they would get a deal done we are told; but University leadership had yet to fully approve the hire. Later Saturday the public began to see tweets DHR hoped would begin to sway Arizona leadership back in support of Niumatalolo; but it appears those tweets (from writers and coaches) were about two days too late.
This tells me all I need to know about the media's role in coaching hires.

http://footballscoop.com/news/ken-niuma ... h-process/" target="_blank

Tweet referenced is Tate’s no triple option tweet, to save you guys a click

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:08 am

prh wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
Sources tell FootballScoop this tweet spooked Arizona’s president and gave him pause during the search. Arizona and Niumatalolo were already well into negotiations at this point sources tell FootballScoop. Saturday morning both the search firm and Niumatalolo thought they would get a deal done we are told; but University leadership had yet to fully approve the hire. Later Saturday the public began to see tweets DHR hoped would begin to sway Arizona leadership back in support of Niumatalolo; but it appears those tweets (from writers and coaches) were about two days too late.
This tells me all I need to know about the media's role in coaching hires.

http://footballscoop.com/news/ken-niuma ... h-process/" target="_blank
Tweet referenced is Tate’s no triple option tweet, to save you guys a click

Was more about the bolded sentence. That all the media's tweet about hyping up hires is fabricated from within.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:09 am

BearDown89 wrote:Ya think?!

Covering all his bases lol

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:10 am

I don't think Scheer realizes he's being used repeatedly,

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:12 am

The thing that bugs me most is Heeke had since Thanksgiving to put this all together. And now it appears (key word) that we are scrambling.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:14 am

And from the department of deflection, Scheer style:

Yeah, dude, you single-handedly saved Arizona basketball and that all makes up for basically being a show runner in this latest sh*tshow. Should we applaud or boo and hiss now?

Sorry, but for all the justified railing against the "cult of personality" and how it has absolutely turned functional American democratic politics to sh*t, this giant eye-roll of a coaching search has taught me one thing: the cult is getting just as bad in sports as well.

Instead, the fallout on Twitter is nothing but doubling down on denial and taking gigantic amounts of credit for things you really weren't that responsible for.

Own your mistakes. That's the bottom line. In ANY profession.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:17 am

Scheer should probably just shut down his Twitter account. And I’ve felt that way long before this latest debacle

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:18 am

Rocky Long lol

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:26 am

Well atleast it's a coach that beat ASU lol

What a mess. Such limbo

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:27 am

BearDown89 wrote:Ya think?!

Francona?

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:27 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Rocky Long lol

Can Neuhisel now! Jfc

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:30 am

Lane!

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:40 am

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:51 am

Why have Harsin, Martin, Klieman not even been mentioned? Could be keeping them close to the vest, but I would rather any of those 3 than Kenny N.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:55 am

RondaeShimmy wrote:

This is the question I have with Lev's credibility. Was the job ever really offered to KN or no?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:58 am

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:59 am

This "offered" stuff is symantecs.
Just a way for people to save face about being tuned down

Alpha chiefdom · Post by **Alpha chiefdom** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:00 pm

At this point would've been better to let rrod coach team next season. This way you you have a year to plan and get the guy you really want. Right now it looks like grass isn't always greener on the other side. Right now herm edwards hiring doesn't look so bad

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:01 pm

jimson wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:
This is the question I have with Lev's credibility. Was the job ever really offered to KN or no?

Lev is the only getting anything close to right. Rittenberg is a voice of the search firm.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:07 pm

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:09 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:

Todd Graham? Lane? Mike Tomlin????!!!

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:10 pm

Shit since Tomey is so damn involved anyways, hire him at $30k a month to CEO this thing and gladhandle boosters. Spend the money you're saving on HC to bring in two elite coordinators at $1.5M each with each one of those coordinators and their position coaches being responsible for recruiting their side of the ball.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:11 pm

What former assistant do you think they interviewed yesterday in phoenix?

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:12 pm

Irish27 wrote:What former assistant do you think they interviewed yesterday in phoenix?

My guess is Babers. Just a guess.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:14 pm

Irish27 wrote:What former assistant do you think they interviewed yesterday in phoenix?

Duane Akina according to Chief

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:15 pm

SCCats wrote:Shit since Tomey is so damn involved anyways, hire him at $30k a month to CEO this thing and gladhandle boosters. Spend the money you're saving on HC to bring in two elite coordinators at $1.5M each with each one of those coordinators and their position coaches being responsible for recruiting their side of the ball.

Just stop with this tired old CEO bullshit. Tomey would be a poor man's Herm Edwards. Just hire a coach who will COACH

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