Assistant Coaches

520in480 · Post by **520in480** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:54 am

Just thought we could use a new thread to track the latest when it comes to Sumlin's staff.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:59 am

Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:28 am

S and C staff?

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:32 am

MrMeow wrote:S and C staff?

God please get them the tf out. So many injuries.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:12 pm

Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.

That was quick in and out.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:14 pm

Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.

That was quick in and out.

That was the only shitty thing out of Heeke's process. Allowing Justice to quit and sign a contract knowing he was going to fire RR.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:15 pm

Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.

That was quick in and out.

Did he actually move to Tucson?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:15 pm

btfd16 wrote:
Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.

That was quick in and out.

That was the only shitty thing out of Heeke's process. Allowing Justice to quit and sign a contract knowing he was going to fire RR.

That really didnt sit well with me either. I was thinking/hoping that Heeke would make the new coach take him or strongly consider it.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:18 pm

btfd16 wrote:
Merkin wrote:Hopefully Cats get a full time ST coordinator too.

That was quick in and out.

That was the only shitty thing out of Heeke's process. Allowing Justice to quit and sign a contract knowing he was going to fire RR.

I imagine he will be compensated. Small potatoes in the scope of things.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:26 pm

Thought I saw on Twitter that Heeke had Justice sign a contract with mitigation, like Sumlin signed. If FAU resigns Justice, UA is off the hook for his salary.

prh · Post by **prh** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:31 pm

I would assume his salary here would be higher than his FAU salary. I hope so, because I think he deserves something from us. If he goes back to FAU it works out ok, but it's a bad position we put him in and I'd feel better knowing he ended up better off somehow.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:32 pm

btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.

Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:40 pm

MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:43 pm

btfd16 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.
I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:51 pm

chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.
I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.

1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:56 pm

MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.
I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.
1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

Yates talked and gave input. Sumlin final decision maker

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:57 pm

MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.
I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.
1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

The only outside hire Yates would have made is Boone and Donte. Amey and Addae were hired from within. This leads me to believe RR had all the say.

apenland01 · Post by **apenland01** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:00 pm

Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:07 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.
I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.
1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.
Yates talked and gave input. Sumlin final decision maker

I would not doubt that is accurate, but what are you basing it on? You have also posted in elsewhere and present it as if you have inside information.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:09 pm

apenland01 wrote:Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

The only confirmed spots taken are Sumlin as HC and Yates as DC.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:20 pm

apenland01 wrote:Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

Yes.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:21 pm

MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.
I am curious how much of a say Yates has in the assistants. Maybe 60/40 Sumlin?

All Sumlin.
1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.

Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:23 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
MrMeow wrote:

All Sumlin.
1. How much say did Yates have in their selection with RR
2. Wierd you say it's "all Sumlin". He just met them. Quick trigger.
Yates talked and gave input. Sumlin final decision maker

Decision was on Sumlin. 100%

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:25 pm

chiefzona wrote:
Decision was on Sumlin. 100%

We are both saying the same thing buddy. Sumlin had final 100% say. Yates gave this thoughts though.

You gonna go to the Spring Game?

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:34 pm

Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.
chiefzona

Where did he get his information, from Yates?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:35 pm

MrMeow wrote:Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.
chiefzona

Where did he get his information, from Yates?

No.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:36 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:
Decision was on Sumlin. 100%
We are both saying the same thing buddy. Sumlin had final 100% say. Yates gave this thoughts though.

You gonna go to the Spring Game?

Yeah, I'll be at the spring game.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:53 pm

MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.

Making room for Cecil and Hunley.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:01 pm

jimson wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
btfd16 wrote:Good point. To recap:
Addae, Amey out.
Yates retained.
Mazzone and McKinney speculated to be joining.
Addae and Amey are (were) defensive coaches. So much for Yates' confidence in them.
Making room for Cecil and Hunley.

You only hire alumni who other schools want to hire.

Dont think that is the case here

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:05 pm

Maybe, but a guy can hope.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:08 pm

You only hire assistant coaches who want to recruit. Can't say if Hunley or Cecil do, they aren't so young anymore, but if they do, then love to have them. They will certainly win the meet and greets with donors and other fans.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:16 pm

Cecil and Hunley? At Stony Brook?

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:04 pm

Bye bye Brian Knorr.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:07 pm

chiefzona wrote:Bye bye Brian Knorr.

Yup. He was told this morning. With Addae gone, the only one with a real shot is Boone.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:08 pm

chiefzona wrote:
MrMeow wrote:Sumlin knew before he landed here. I guarantee it. Good coaches know when and how quickly to take the trash out.
chiefzona

Where did he get his information, from Yates?

No.

You can do better than that

apenland01 · Post by **apenland01** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:16 pm

chiefzona wrote:
apenland01 wrote:Is Mazzone confirmed to be on staff?

Yes.

Okay, I hadn't seen anything official.

I have to believe Mazzone was strongly looking at the New Mexico job, which would make a lot of sense for him.

He graduated from New Mexico, started coaching there, knows Bob Davie and wants to become a head coach. Mazzone would be an automatic hire at New Mexico when Bob Davie leaves, especially if he was already an OC that connected with Albuquerque.

I think Mazzone is a great hire for OC at Arizona, but I wouldn't mind seeing him at New Mexico either. Hopefully we will see an official announcement soon if it's not already available.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:30 pm

Meat makes a lot of sense for you guys

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:51 pm

Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:45 pm

btfd16 wrote:
Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

I love the "Boyz n the Hood" tee Gerald is rockin' in that pic with Yates.

FlyonWall · Post by **FlyonWall** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:53 pm

chiefzona wrote:Bye bye Brian Knorr.

Was he ever really here?

Pop McKale · Post by **Pop McKale** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:08 am

btfd16 wrote:
Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.

Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:14 am

Pop McKale wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.
Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.

There's a Bill and a Billy

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:16 am

Pop McKale wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.
Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.

Billy is on staff as an 'Operations Coordinator', whatever that is.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:27 am

Singletary is a joke.

Pop McKale · Post by **Pop McKale** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:43 am

jimson wrote:
Pop McKale wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
Singletary still tweeting like he will stay. From a couple stories I have heard, I don't want him to.

One guy I really want to stay and the players love is Billy Kirelawich. But he is a day 1 Coach Rod guy. Not sure Sumlin would keep him.

Edit: Welp. Nevermind. Billy is not being retained.
Kirelawich was let go by Rich along with Casteel. Amey took over for him in 2016.
There's a Bill and a Billy

Ah, got it.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:50 am

Boone's out me heard.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:51 am

Clean house on everyone besides Yates

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:58 am

Any more word on Singletary? That becomes the most important one. I would expect Sumlin to have a guy but you never know.

Chief any idea on if he can get Brian Polian to come over?

jimson · Post by **jimson** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:39 am

Merkin wrote:You only hire assistant coaches who want to recruit. Can't say if Hunley or Cecil do, they aren't so young anymore, but if they do, then love to have them. They will certainly win the meet and greets with donors and other fans.

The below is from a Hansen article. Illustrates how I feel about this. If, as some say they are only qualified to be lifelong position coaches, then why not bring them here as such? They certainly have a wealth of experience and NFL background.
Who cares if the young uns don't know them yet? They need to be steeped in the history including the greatest play in UA history, Cecil's 106 yard pick 6. Show recruits Cecil's SI cover framed on the office wall. Pictures of Hunley as a Bronco. They will learn, and they will respect.

I truly believe these two guys would work their asses off for UA out of love and passion for the program and I have no doubt they would recruit like a motherfucker.

They want to be here. It's a no-brainer to me, and something Sumlin should seriously consider.

“We ate at Houston’s; Chuck brought his family,” said Hunley. “As you can imagine, we talked about Wildcat football. That’s what we always talk about. Today, Chuck and I were in agreement — both of us need to be back at Arizona. We both want to be there.”
“We have been treated like outsiders,” said Hunley. “They wouldn’t even introduce recruits to Chuck this year.”
“Low man on the totem pole,” said Hunley. “RichRod didn’t even tell Chuck if he was going to bring him back next season.”
“The football job at Arizona has been lacking people who have passion for the school and the program,” Hunley said. “For whatever reason, any kind of UA connection seemed to be avoided. It’s time to go back like a lot of other schools and take care of your own and be proud of what you’ve built.”

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:56 am

^ great stuff.

I recall Hunley saying too that RichRod wouldn't even let him sit with the UA players during a game. He sat with the UCLA guys.

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