UCLA Basketball in trouble!

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:44 pm

How does Guerrero keep his job.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:51 am

His bosses understand he is a bureaucrat. Sports don't drive ucla's reputation so it doesn't matter much as long as they graduate players, don't get embarrassed, and don't get any violations

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:55 pm

Packed house barn burner in Pauley

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:19 pm

Im thinking this game on Saturday is a must win for Alford's career at UCLA. Only two games left on UCLA's schedule that are surefire NCAA teams and they are Arizona and ASU, which I dont exactly think we have much of a shot at winning.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:42 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Im thinking this game on Saturday is a must win for Alford's career at UCLA. Only two games left on UCLA's schedule that are surefire NCAA teams and they are Arizona and ASU, which I dont exactly think we have much of a shot at winning.

UCLA will beat UK on Saturday. Not a doubt in my mind.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:56 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Im thinking this game on Saturday is a must win for Alford's career at UCLA. Only two games left on UCLA's schedule that are surefire NCAA teams and they are Arizona and ASU, which I dont exactly think we have much of a shot at winning.
UCLA will beat UK on Saturday. Not a doubt in my mind.

Only if they play Kentucky's women's team. And even then I'm not so sure.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:42 pm

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:17 pm

I wonder if we'll ever know if all three players are equally culpable, of if one of them was the actual bonehead and the other two just happened to be along for the ride.

Well, now we know why Lavar cut ties. He had to know this was coming.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:33 pm

Will make it easier to fire Alford at the end of the year.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:16 pm

Chicat wrote:

"LiAngelo is already suffering a fate far worse than any punishment we could have inflicted on him."

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:01 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Will make it easier to fire Alford at the end of the year.

So Bug, if we agree that CSA is likely gone at the end of this year, who do you think or is likely to replace him?

Seems like last time you went through this you lost out on your top targets and had to settle for Alford who I predicted was never going to turn out well for y’all.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:08 pm

I dont think predicting Alford to be the answer was much of a stretch. Who knows what he could have done without his kid hamstringing the program, but it is what it is. As for candidates? A lot of people like Larry L. Chris Collins, the dude at Vandy. There really isn't a big name right now, maybe Greg Marshall? Carmelo isn't destroying OKC fast enough sadly.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:15 am

MrBug708 wrote:I dont think predicting Alford to be the answer was much of a stretch. Who knows what he could have done without his kid hamstringing the program, but it is what it is. As for candidates? A lot of people like Larry L. Chris Collins, the dude at Vandy. There really isn't a big name right now, maybe Greg Marshall? Carmelo isn't destroying OKC fast enough sadly.

Billy Donovan at UCLA scares the crap out of me.....You think he’d take the gig with your current AD? Didn’t Greg Marshall already turn you guys down last time?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:43 am

Donovan would outlast DG, but I dont see Donovan back in college, he's run has been pretty good, he could probably land another NBA job. Greg Marshall said he would speak about the job after his team was eliminated from the tournament. DG couldn't wait, he had to beat the deadline to avoid paying UNM a buyout for Alford, which he had to pay anyways.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:31 pm

It's going to be hard to rebuild UCLA when its small fan base is dying off.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:46 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Im thinking this game on Saturday is a must win for Alford's career at UCLA. Only two games left on UCLA's schedule that are surefire NCAA teams and they are Arizona and ASU, which I dont exactly think we have much of a shot at winning.
UCLA will beat UK on Saturday. Not a doubt in my mind.

Bruins up 7 with 5:25 left. I think they are playing in New Orleans.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:03 pm

UK is not a top 10 team, probably not even top 20 right now. Neither of these teams looked very impressive. The slightly less shitty team won.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:11 pm

That was...surprising. is this like the 4th time in 3 years they've played?

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:24 pm

PAC-12 is awful but 7-2 against the SEC this season. 4-1 against Alabama, Mizzou, A&M, and Kentucky. Yet somehow the SEC will get more teams into the NCAA tournament.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:28 pm

MrBug708 wrote:That was...surprising. is this like the 4th time in 3 years they've played?

Nice win ..... for Arizona.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:52 pm

Give Alford a lifetime contract!

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:54 pm

MrBug708 wrote:That was...surprising. is this like the 4th time in 3 years they've played?

Congrats on the big win Bug!

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:00 pm

Awful loss

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:10 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Awful loss

That second half was no bueno.

On the bright side, Walton called the Bruins title contenders in front of a national tv audience. Then again, he also alluded to all the drugs he does.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:40 pm

That's what I get for not paying attention late after UCLA was up all game.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:44 pm

UCLA basketball is that race horse that looks great in the stable and wonderful at the first turn. But after the race you're cursing them for no effing heart and throwing your ticket on the floor as they fade out of the money.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:48 am

Here’s a funny thread on the UCLA board dated Dec. 30 and titled “Stanford Just Lost To Cal at Home” with the post of “That’s just as bad as it gets...” lmao. https://247sports.com/college/ucla/Boar ... -112957369

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:46 am

@latbbolch

One nugget from my Dan Guerrero interview pertaining to football that seems relevant tonight: "We weren’t clicking on all cylinders on all facets of the game and by year five, you’re anticipating that that’s going to happen."

He gone

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:58 am

“by year five...”

Yeah, I’d be calling up moving companies.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:57 pm

Alford: mediocre coach, mediocre program. Hard to see it any other way.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:16 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Alford: mediocre coach, mediocre program. Hard to see it any other way.

Agreed BC AND I am a big fan of his

....hope they keep him for as long as possible but I bet they can him this year...next year at the latest. Let the planes with banners start flying, lol.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:10 pm

That's gotta be the nail in the coffin

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:48 pm

MrBug708 wrote:That's gotta be the nail in the coffin

Oh, grab a hammer. I think UCLA still has many more games left to lose. But at least they beat Kentucky.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:48 am

MrBug708 wrote:That's gotta be the nail in the coffin

If UCLA moves on from Alford, do you have a personal wish list? And who do you think will end up with the job?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:15 am

Last time the UCLA job was open, it drew about as much interest as Jeb Bush’s presidential campaign. They can’t draw a big name. An up and comer is the best they can hope for.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:17 am

Beachcat97 wrote:Last time the UCLA job was open, it drew about as much interest as Jeb Bush’s presidential campaign. They can’t draw a big name. An up and comer is the best they can hope for.

Is there a Donald Trump of basketball coaches? Does he have a daughter?

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:02 am

Bobby Hurley?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:02 am

MrBug708 wrote:That's gotta be the nail in the coffin

I cannot tell you how hard I’m praying for something crazy to happen and Commander Buttcut somehow wills this team to barely squeak into the tourney and then put together a Sweet Sixteen run. Please lord Jeebus, make it so!

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:24 am

Chicat wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's gotta be the nail in the coffin
I cannot tell you how hard I’m praying for something crazy to happen and Commander Buttcut somehow wills this team to barely squeak into the tourney and then put together a Sweet Sixteen run. Please lord Jeebus, make it so!

Gottlieb accidentally dropped in a Lavin reference yesterday. But I dont see them going on a run with this roster makeup and making the tournament.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:05 am

Irish27 wrote:Bobby Hurley?

Want UCLA ties? Lorenzo Romar.

Want an up and coming young guy? Will Wade.

Want certain winning with the gnawing feeling you're definitely doing something against NCAA rules to get it? Bruce Pearl.

Want your fanbase not to know who this guy is? Marvin Menzies.

Want to poach? Larry Krystowiak.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:15 am

Back the dump truck up and shower Tony Bennett with cash. Make it rain on that motherfucker.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:20 am

Chicat wrote:Back the dump truck up and shower Tony Bennett with cash. Make it rain on that motherfucker.

Or Gregg Marshall. I'm just not sure UCLA has that sort of cache/cash.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:44 am

Heard Rick Pitino is available this time.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:51 am

Frybry02 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's gotta be the nail in the coffin
If UCLA moves on from Alford, do you have a personal wish list? And who do you think will end up with the job?

Billy Donovan would be nice but I think he has enough draw to get another NBA job and I'm not sure the timing would work out. Tony Bennett would be a good hire, he proved he can win outside of his dad's shadow. Chris Mack wouls also be fantastic, though I think Louisville might make the move for him first. The Drew at Vandy is underrated IMO but probably not a good enough of a season to pass the smell test even Jaime Dixon would be a great hire. Not sure gregg Marshall gets consideration this time around. Larry krys would also be intriguing because I think he can coach and he'd have more access to talent than he does at Utah

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:18 am

MrBug708 wrote:
Frybry02 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:That's gotta be the nail in the coffin
If UCLA moves on from Alford, do you have a personal wish list? And who do you think will end up with the job?
Billy Donovan would be nice but I think he has enough draw to get another NBA job and I'm not sure the timing would work out. Tony Bennett would be a good hire, he proved he can win outside of his dad's shadow. Chris Mack wouls also be fantastic, though I think Louisville might make the move for him first. The Drew at Vandy is underrated IMO but probably not a good enough of a season to pass the smell test even Jaime Dixon would be a great hire. Not sure gregg Marshall gets consideration this time around. Larry krys would also be intriguing because I think he can coach and he'd have more access to talent than he does at Utah

Dixon left Pitt for his alma mater. I'm not thinking he's on the market.

UCLA should walk through broken glass to Wichita if Marshall is interested. Dude might be a bit of a jackass, but he would have UCLA in the top 10-15 every year.

I doubt Donovan wants to make the jump back to college. There have been some good jobs out there that he's hung with the sinking OKC ship over. Why stick it out in a difficult NBA situation if that isn't his future?

No clue if Bennett would give up the good thing he has going. He would be a score, but...

I doubt UCLA scores a big, big name.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:23 am

Willing to let UCLA win the conference and make a Final Four so they give Alford a 5 year extension.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:25 am

Just continue the Albuquerque pipeline.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:48 am

UCLA has a snowball’s chance in hell at Bennett, Marshall, probably even Mack. It’s not a very good job, and these guys are all thriving at better programs.

Bruins are much lower down on the food chain. Look at their current coach. It should tell us something.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:53 am

NYCat wrote:Willing to let UCLA win the conference and make a Final Four so they give Alford a 5 year extension.

I'd actually rather trade Alford (good recruiter, can't do much with the talent when it's on campus) for his opposite. I want a guy who recruits worse (to allow us to steal talent) but coaches better (to help our RPI instead of Alford's underachieving).

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:16 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
NYCat wrote:Willing to let UCLA win the conference and make a Final Four so they give Alford a 5 year extension.
I'd actually rather trade Alford (good recruiter, can't do much with the talent when it's on campus) for his opposite. I want a guy who recruits worse (to allow us to steal talent) but coaches better (to help our RPI instead of Alford's underachieving).

As has been discussed ad nauseum on here, we don’t need UCLA to be competitive as long as other programs are thriving. Oregon’s emergence under Altman has been great for the league; they’re our main competition for Pac supremacy at the moment. USC has some momentum, as does Stanford. UW and Utah have good coaches and should be in the mix for NCAA bids on a regular basis.

There’s one reason people talk about the Pac’s well being as somehow tied to UCLA: nostalgia. There’s this idea among some fans, mostly geriatric men in Tarzana, that the a return to the Wooden Years is right around the corner and that until that day comes, the Pac is forgotten. Tell that to Sean Miller and Dana Altman.

UCLA should hire Tyus Edney. Keep it in the family.

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