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ChooChooCat wrote:Since I had a very unproductive morning of work, I instead decided to do some research as to who could be a grad transfer candidate for us this year. Obviously no guarantee these guys will be a grad transfer, but they are eligible to do so.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... on-menzies" target="_blank
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... n-mekowulu" target="_blank
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... jah-minnie" target="_blank

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Is that first kid Marvin Menzies son? If so, I doubt we're beating UNLV out for his services.
Is Marvin Menzies from Manchester, England? Does Marvin Menzies have the genes to produce a child that would grow to 7'3 285lbs? lol. All in all I don't think they're related and if they were he wouldn't have started his career at Seattle U, but rather at NMSU or at the very least transfer to UNLV last season when Marvin got the job there.
I don't know much about Marvin Menzies. Maybe Marvin is the government father but his wife was cheating on him? Maybe he's part of the large Las Cruces British community? Lots of possibilities here.
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I'll take any one of the 3. Menzies is my first choice. He looks and sounds like a beast. I'm a genealogist. The same last name might carry some weight and it just as well might not.
I'd also like Minnie the Pgh kid. I'm from there also. They make good savage life teammates (apologies to Rawle). He could also develop into a good stretch 4, since that is in vogue these days.
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Is J'Raan Brooks, PF from Washington, an option?
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gronk4heisman wrote:Is J'Raan Brooks, PF from Washington, an option?
St. John's commit

edit: NEVERMIND, just decommitted.
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He was originally committed to USC so idk. Looks like Arizona never offered. If he was a center maybe.
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NYCat wrote:He was originally committed to USC so idk. Looks like Arizona never offered. If he was a center maybe.
Yeah doubt we're the team with Lee and O'Neal both occupying the same skill set and size as Brooks. Unless he wants to be a four year rotation player.
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So our greatest remaining ‘18 need is size, right?
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YoDeFoe wrote:
NYCat wrote:He was originally committed to USC so idk. Looks like Arizona never offered. If he was a center maybe.
Yeah doubt we're the team with Lee and O'Neal both occupying the same skill set and size as Brooks. Unless he wants to be a four year rotation player.
I don't know. There are 3 types of players you can't have too many of in college. I'd say athletic, 6'8-6'9 posts with skill are one type.

When Jeter sits, we'll be playing a 2 PF post rotation most likely. I would think the minutes are there, bc a good player can keep Jeter to 25 mpg unless Jeter is waaay better than I think he is.
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NYCat wrote:He was originally committed to USC so idk. Looks like Arizona never offered. If he was a center maybe.
Yeah doubt we're the team with Lee and O'Neal both occupying the same skill set and size as Brooks. Unless he wants to be a four year rotation player.
I don't know. There are 3 types of players you can't have too many of in college. I'd say athletic, 6'8-6'9 posts with skill are one type.

When Jeter sits, we'll be playing a 2 PF post rotation most likely. I would think the minutes are there, bc a good player can keep Jeter to 25 mpg unless Jeter is waaay better than I think he is.
I love me some versatile 6'8" guys in college ball. And we've been thirsty for them for years now.

I just don't think Brooks is looking for 10min/g as the fourth option in the post for the next two years (at least). Not that it'd be a bad role for him, just guessing he's hoping for more.
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YoDeFoe wrote:
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NYCat wrote:He was originally committed to USC so idk. Looks like Arizona never offered. If he was a center maybe.
Yeah doubt we're the team with Lee and O'Neal both occupying the same skill set and size as Brooks. Unless he wants to be a four year rotation player.
I don't know. There are 3 types of players you can't have too many of in college. I'd say athletic, 6'8-6'9 posts with skill are one type.

When Jeter sits, we'll be playing a 2 PF post rotation most likely. I would think the minutes are there, bc a good player can keep Jeter to 25 mpg unless Jeter is waaay better than I think he is.
I love me some versatile 6'8" guys in college ball. And we've been thirsty for them for years now.

I just don't think Brooks is looking for 10min/g as the fourth option in the post for the next two years (at least). Not that it'd be a bad role for him, just guessing he's hoping for more.
Yeah, there are always two parties in recruiting. If we were selling him, I'd sell him that we're playing a pair of 6'8 dudes in the post for 15+ MPG for the forseeable future, and he could be one of them. Adding to the 40 mpg a 6'8 dude would get at PF alone.

I think we'd have 55 MPG avail for 3 guys who are 6'8. Whether that's too little for him...?
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Already recruiting/offered a 6'8 4 from Washington in the '19 class

https://247sports.com/Player/Jaden-McDaniels-46046881" target="_blank
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Am I reading that right? 247 is saying we have 0 PFs now? What are Pinder and Lee? He is listed at 175 lbs. Chris Rounds, here he comes. :shock:
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DiehardDave37 wrote:Am I reading that right? 247 is saying we have 0 PFs now? What are Pinder and Lee? He is listed at 175 lbs. Chris Rounds, here he comes. :shock:
Lee and O'Neal are both PF's who should be here in '19 barring transfer.
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http://www.espn.com/college-sports/bask ... ton-hagans" target="_blank

What's the going rate for a 5-star PG?
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Shareef to UCLA.
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Longhorned wrote:Shareef to UCLA.
Dear Lord,

Am I being punished?
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btfd16 wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Shareef to UCLA.
Dear Lord,

Am I being punished?
Yeah, for all the good stuff that's happened to Arizona basketball recently.
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The price we have to pay for our coach's vindication: he leaves.
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Thank you sweet baby Jesus
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Well, he'll definitely get time, shots and chances to lead for the forseeable future.
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Damn. What a stud.
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Merkin wrote:
I'm not seeing that reply by Williams...
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YoDeFoe wrote:
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I'm not seeing that reply by Williams...
Yeah I haven't seen that reply. If true though build that kid a fucking statue and send every attractive girl on campus to his dorm room.
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Sahweeeeeeeet!!!

That is the kind of kid we want here!

Wonder if we can get a confirmation from Schlumnutz.
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TatetheGreat wrote:
Maybe Arizona has become more popular with recruits since the ESPN story broke. Lol.
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EastCoastCat wrote:
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Maybe Arizona has become more popular with recruits since the ESPN story broke. Lol.
Scheer's tweet was in regards to what recruiting looked like prior to this ESPN story.

On a side note I've been told not to be surprised if O'Neal decommits from UCLA. The O'Neal family watched the Miller presser and are feeling an extreme amount of remorse and guilt. They never expected ESPN to be the lying schills that they are and I certainly don't blame them for that. Now I wouldn't expect Reef to end up back at Arizona, as that wouldn't look good for him, but don't be surprised if he decommits and ends up at a school outside of the Pac-12 as a "favor" to Miller and Arizona.
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ChooChooCat wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:
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Maybe Arizona has become more popular with recruits since the ESPN story broke. Lol.
Scheer's tweet was in regards to what recruiting looked like prior to this ESPN story.

On a side note I've been told not to be surprised if O'Neal decommits from UCLA. The O'Neal family watched the Miller presser and are feeling an extreme amount of remorse and guilt. They never expected ESPN to be the lying schills that they are and I certainly don't blame them for that. Now I wouldn't expect Reef to end up back at Arizona, as that wouldn't look good for him, but don't be surprised if he decommits and ends up at a school outside of the Pac-12 as a "favor" to Miller and Arizona.
I don't wish Shareef ill. I'd take him back.

I remember back to Friday, I was certain Miller was gone and our program would be wandering in the wilderness for 5 year minimum. I can understand why Shareef would decommit if he only gets 4 years of that.
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Doutrieve was looking like he was going to commit this week, is that done? Jones probably looking like he's going illinois
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NYCat wrote:Doutrieve was looking like he was going to commit this week, is that done? Jones probably looking like he's going illinois
Who knows at this point? So many things went topsy turvy. Brandon Williams is still up in the air, maybe we can convince Doutrive to come out for a visit still, Jones was always going to be decided after the regular season and probably tourney are over. At this point it's all on Sean Miller selling every one on the fact that he's going to be Arizona's head coach next season.
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ChooChooCat wrote:
NYCat wrote:Doutrieve was looking like he was going to commit this week, is that done? Jones probably looking like he's going illinois
Who knows at this point? So many things went topsy turvy. Brandon Williams is still up in the air, maybe we can convince Doutrive to come out for a visit still, Jones was always going to be decided after the regular season and probably tourney are over. At this point it's all on Sean Miller selling every one on the fact that he's going to be Arizona's head coach next season.
That press conference was a good start. Miller brought his A game for that.
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Even though Reef thinks he's a wing I would want him back just to get some size. Just roll with 3 wings.
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I can't see Reef changing his mind again. He already looks pretty flaky, and another switch would make it worse.

Let him go play for Alford. See how that works out. My guess: a middling Pac finish or two and a premature NBA draft entry.
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Beachcat97 wrote:I can't see Reef changing his mind again. He already looks pretty flaky, and another switch would make it worse.

Let him go play for Alford. See how that works out. My guess: a middling Pac finish or two and a premature NBA draft entry.
I don't think he's flaky. Did any of us honestly think Arizona basketball wasn't DOA in the hour after the ESPN report dropped? I did. If I was a high schooler, I wouldn't want to walk into a program that was about to lose a coach and get hammered by the NCAA. Pretty much everyone thought that's what we were.
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Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:I can't see Reef changing his mind again. He already looks pretty flaky, and another switch would make it worse.

Let him go play for Alford. See how that works out. My guess: a middling Pac finish or two and a premature NBA draft entry.
I don't think he's flaky. Did any of us honestly think Arizona basketball wasn't DOA in the hour after the ESPN report dropped? I did. If I was a high schooler, I wouldn't want to walk into a program that was about to lose a coach and get hammered by the NCAA. Pretty much everyone thought that's what we were.
He may not be flakey, but unless he had a reason other than the Miller situation, he's sure dumb. Why not wait until the conclusion of the Miller situation? What's the rush?
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It’s so nice just to see this thread bumped and updated
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I just can't believe he decommitted and committed in 2 days. That's weird unless he was already looking for a way out without looking like he wasn't a man of his word
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Alieberman wrote:I just can't believe he decommitted and committed in 2 days. That's weird unless he was already looking for a way out without looking like he wasn't a man of his word
UCLA was his backup from the get go the second the Ball family split ways with that program. It's not that he wasn't a man of his word, he was just prepared for the worst with Arizona due to the FBI stuff.
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I don't know why Williams is deciding this weekend BTW. If he chooses to stay but Miller is gone after the season, so is Williams.
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MrMeow wrote:
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Beachcat97 wrote:I can't see Reef changing his mind again. He already looks pretty flaky, and another switch would make it worse.

Let him go play for Alford. See how that works out. My guess: a middling Pac finish or two and a premature NBA draft entry.
I don't think he's flaky. Did any of us honestly think Arizona basketball wasn't DOA in the hour after the ESPN report dropped? I did. If I was a high schooler, I wouldn't want to walk into a program that was about to lose a coach and get hammered by the NCAA. Pretty much everyone thought that's what we were.
He may not be flakey, but unless he had a reason other than the Miller situation, he's sure dumb. Why not wait until the conclusion of the Miller situation? What's the rush?
I don't know, I must be dumb too. When fhat article broke, I thought it was a conclusion to the Miller situation. I thought he was done. It wasn't until Sunday/Monday I had any hope, and even Wed/Thurs, we had peoe talking about a negotiated split.
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ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:I just can't believe he decommitted and committed in 2 days. That's weird unless he was already looking for a way out without looking like he wasn't a man of his word
UCLA was his backup from the get go the second the Ball family split ways with that program. It's not that he wasn't a man of his word, he was just prepared for the worst with Arizona due to the FBI stuff.
But why not wait a couple days to see what actually had happened to see what AZ does? He didn't walk away, he ran!
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Alieberman wrote:
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Alieberman wrote:I just can't believe he decommitted and committed in 2 days. That's weird unless he was already looking for a way out without looking like he wasn't a man of his word
UCLA was his backup from the get go the second the Ball family split ways with that program. It's not that he wasn't a man of his word, he was just prepared for the worst with Arizona due to the FBI stuff.
But why not wait a couple days to see what actually had happened to see what AZ does? He didn't walk away, he ran!
Read my original post, the family feels awful about it, but they didn't expect ESPN to have such shoddy journalism. Why would they? It's hard to blame them for preparing for the doomsday scenario they thought could come to pass and then acting on it.
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MrMeow wrote:
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Beachcat97 wrote:I can't see Reef changing his mind again. He already looks pretty flaky, and another switch would make it worse.

Let him go play for Alford. See how that works out. My guess: a middling Pac finish or two and a premature NBA draft entry.
I don't think he's flaky. Did any of us honestly think Arizona basketball wasn't DOA in the hour after the ESPN report dropped? I did. If I was a high schooler, I wouldn't want to walk into a program that was about to lose a coach and get hammered by the NCAA. Pretty much everyone thought that's what we were.
He may not be flakey, but unless he had a reason other than the Miller situation, he's sure dumb. Why not wait until the conclusion of the Miller situation? What's the rush?
This is what I'm saying. What's the rush?
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Jaleyk Felton transferring from UNC. No clue what he did to get suspended or why he is leaving, but it seems to be a decent available body (based on his HS days). Just throwing things out there and see what sticks.
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Jaleyk Felton transferring from UNC. No clue what he did to get suspended or why he is leaving, but it seems to be a decent available body (based on his HS days). Just throwing things out there and see what sticks.
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ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:I just can't believe he decommitted and committed in 2 days. That's weird unless he was already looking for a way out without looking like he wasn't a man of his word
UCLA was his backup from the get go the second the Ball family split ways with that program. It's not that he wasn't a man of his word, he was just prepared for the worst with Arizona due to the FBI stuff.
But why not wait a couple days to see what actually had happened to see what AZ does? He didn't walk away, he ran!
Read my original post, the family feels awful about it, but they didn't expect ESPN to have such shoddy journalism. Why would they? It's hard to blame them for preparing for the doomsday scenario they thought could come to pass and then acting on it.
Again, why the rush? Was Alford going to close him out if he didn't commit in two days? Maybe dumb is a family trait.
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UCLA got Reef instead of Jordan Brown lol
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NYCat wrote:UCLA got Reef instead of Jordan Brown lol
I wonder if the 2 players suspended from the China fallout leave for a fresh start. Although they probably would have left in December. Seems to me that UCLA will have the scholarships available to Brown. I don't think Reef is any type of threat to his playing time.
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