Official Bracketology Thread

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:20 am

Updated for weekend games. Everyone on this list plays a game this weekend except us

Since Purdue is on a 3 game losing streak, I'm adding them to the list so this is now teams 4-16.

So far this week, 4 teams on this list ahead of AZ have a loss.

I'll keep updating this list

Purdue (0-1) plays Sunday
Kansas (1-0) plays today
Auburn (1-0) plays today
Duke (1-0) plays Sunday
Cincinnati (0-1) plays Sunday
Clemson (0-1) plays Sunday
Michigan St. (1-0) plays today
Texas Tech (1-0) plays today
North Carolina (1-0) plays today
Tennessee (1-0) Plays today
Ohio State (0-1) plays Sunday
Arizona (1-0)
Oklahoma (0-1) plays today

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:01 pm

Michigan State getting destroyed by 22 right now against Northwestern - halftime

CatMG · Post by **CatMG** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:36 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Michigan State getting destroyed by 22 right now against Northwestern - halftime

I decided to turn that game on in the middle of the 2nd half. NW scores 11 2nd half points (which included a three with under 10 seconds left) to lose. Think about that, they score 11 2nd half points and lose by 5 (and that is with four FTs at the end for MSU after NW started fouling). How is that even possible?.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:07 pm

Oklahoma lost.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:06 pm

Auburn and TAMU lost.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:20 pm

Tenn lost!

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:13 pm

Xavier needs to be added to that list. Biggest paper tiger in the country. Perhaps Auburn is a contender as well.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:18 pm

Texas Tech lost but looked good losing.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:20 pm

This year is the year of "who ever gets hot and wants a title vacated for crap everyone relevant is pulling." So it could be us!!!!

Call me jaded.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:27 pm

Longhorned wrote:Texas Tech lost but looked good losing.

So true. It used to, but it doesn’t even anger me anymore. We lose in Seattle and it’s a scarlet letter. ESPN TV partners lose and it’s a good loss. Texas Tech is such a fraud as well. There are a lot of them this year.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:22 pm

Updated after Saturday games.

I've decided to put the top 20 on this list.

So this list includes teams 1-20 and their W/L after 2/11 when the selection committee announced their top 16. They have been rearranged slightly based on reasonable assumptions based on this week's results.

Virginia (1-0)
Villinova (1-1)
Xavier (1-1)
Kansas (2-0)

Purdue (0-1) plays Sunday
Auburn (1-1)
Duke (1-0) plays Sunday
Michigan St. (2-0)

North Carolina (2-0)
Cincinnati (0-1) plays Sunday
Clemson (0-1) plays Sunday
Texas Tech (1-1)

Tennessee (1-1)
Arizona (1-0)
Gonzaga (2-0)
Oklahoma (0-2)

Ohio State (0-1) plays Sunday
Rhode Island (1-1)
Wichita St. (1-0) plays Sunday
West Virginia (1-1)

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:29 pm

Oklahoma is fading fast.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:55 pm

Yeah OU has lost 8 out of their last 10 and 5 straight

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:02 pm

A, Thanks again for the initiative on this list. Really gonna help filling out my bracket this year.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:19 pm

Late season road games -

Virginia (1-0) —— @ Pitt @ Louisville
Villinova (1-1) —- @Creighton,@ Seton Hall
Xavier (1-1) @ Georgetown, @ DePaul
Kansas (2-0) @ TT @ OSU

Purdue (0-1) @ Illinois
Auburn (1-1) @ Florida, @Arkansas
Duke (1-0) @ Clemson, @ VT (plus UNC at home)
Michigan St. (2-0) —- @ Wisconsin

North Carolina (2-0) @Louisville, @Syracuse, @Duke
Cincinnati (0-1) @Wichita State, @Tulane (plus Wichita State at home)
Clemson (0-1) @VT, @Syracuse (plus Duke at home)
Texas Tech (1-1) @ OSU, @ WVU (plus Kansas at home

Tennessee (1-1) @Ole Miss, @MSU
Arizona (1-0) @Oregon, @ OSU
Gonzaga (2-0) @USD, @ BYU
Oklahoma (0-2) @Kansas, @ Baylor

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:21 pm

A #1 is exceptionally difficult to imagine. Win out and I think that a two is likely though.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:32 pm

Dude, is OK gonna make the tourney?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:36 pm

U.P. Zona Fan wrote:Dude, is OK gonna make the tourney?

Ayton could surpass Young as national player of the year.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:17 am

RaisingArizona wrote:A #1 is exceptionally difficult to imagine. Win out and I think that a two is likely though.

Totally agree which is why I ultimately see us as a 3 seed when all is said and done.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:32 am

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... cketology/" target="_blank

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:41 am

Cincinnati does not deserve a two seed. They’ve feasted on cream puffs. Perhaps they would if they sweep Wichita State. They won’t though.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:28 am

Lol at Kansas as a one.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:37 am

Kansas would have to get to 10 losses to not be a 1 seed.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:34 pm

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 318678002/" target="_blank

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:30 pm

Updated after Sunday games.

3 weeks until selection Sunday

So this list includes teams 1-20 and their W/L after 2/11 when the selection committee announced their top 16. They have been rearranged slightly based on reasonable assumptions based on this week's results.

My guess is that we are either 12/13... right on the 3/4 line. Big week in Oregon coming up.

Virginia (1-0) plays Wednesday
Villanova (1-1) plays Wednesday
Xavier (1-1) plays Wednesday
Kansas (2-0) plays today

Purdue (1-1)
Auburn (1-1) plays Wednesday
Duke (2-0) plays Wednesday
Michigan St. (2-0) plays Tuesday

North Carolina (2-0) Plays Wednesday
Texas Tech (1-1) plays Wednesday
Tennessee (1-1) plays Wednesday
Clemson (0-2) plays Wednesday

Arizona (1-0)
Gonzaga (2-0)
Wichita St. (2-0) plays Wednesday
Cincinnati (0-2)

Rhode Island (1-1) plays Tuesday
West Virginia (1-1) plays Tuesday
Ohio State (0-2) plays Tuesday
Oklahoma (0-2) plays today

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:59 pm

I expect two close games in Oregon. But we’re winning them both.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:36 pm

Win both and we should be a 3 seed west side

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:51 am

Bearing down from Eugene this sat!!!

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:53 am

I’m doing what I like to call one of my “midnight lute” trips.

Fly in at 2pm
Game time 8pm
Fly out at 5am.

Bear down.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:37 am

Lunardi currently has two PAC 12 teams in the dance.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:41 am

RaisingArizona wrote:Lunardi currently has two PAC 12 teams in the dance.

Fodder for Walton to go on a rant this week...not that he needs more incentive.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:43 am

It's better to be a 3-seed than a 4-seed, but not if they're going to make Kansas a 1-seed. In that case, the 4-seed would be the easier path.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:15 am

Longhorned wrote:It's better to be a 3-seed than a 4-seed, but not if they're going to make Kansas a 1-seed. In that case, the 4-seed would be the easier path.

I've always figured if you want a Final Four, you'll probably have to beat a 1-4 seed, if not two. The best you can hope for is a decent matchup, but you'll probably draw a good opponent or two.

Kansas isn't scary this year, but this year most top teams are flawed. Kenpom's #1 team is in the 40's in AdjO. Most of your top teams are pretty unbalanced and lag in either O or D. If I had a real request, it would be to avoid MSU, Purdue and Zaga as the most balanced teams. An unbalanced team, we can either beat them in a track meet or hope their lack of O keeps us there if we stick 3's and ride Ayton.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:34 am

I really think this quadrant change is going to make for some wonky brackets. Cincinnati, Xavier, Auburn etc. are going to be grossly over seeded as a result of the committee being forced to view wins like @Butler, @Creoghton, @ Central Florida, @Murray State and so on as elites wins due to the bump given to road wins.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:58 am

I'd love to see ASU vs. Duke in the second round.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:12 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: I've always figured if you want a Final Four, you'll probably have to beat a 1-4 seed, if not two.

Probably. Unless, of course, you're UConn.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:13 pm

Pac is getting 5 in: AZ, ASU, USC, UCLA, and UW (or Utah).

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:14 pm

zonagrad wrote:I'd love to see ASU vs. Duke in the second round.

ASU is underrated because after beating up the world, they've had to take their lumps in the Conference of Champions. No truck stops here.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:16 pm

zonagrad wrote:I'd love to see ASU vs. Duke in the second round.

ASU should be confident in the tourney. Fewer games against Pac 12 teams is their wheelhouse.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:01 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Pac is getting 5 in: AZ, ASU, USC, UCLA, and UW (or Utah).

Utah has a very good chance at getting in with the final three at home. That would get them to 12-6 in league which should lock up a tourney birth. USC has to at least win 2 of three or win 1 and make the PAC 12 finals. Their resume is terrible. Wins versus MTSU and Utah both at home. If they go 1-2 and Washington goes 3-1 then UW would clearly have the better profile. I think four teams is the most likely result. AZ, ASU, UCLA and Utah. If Oregon wins out they might also sneak in with potentially 6 top 50 wins and recent tournament pedigree.

Best case scenario for PAC:
Oregon 4-0
AZ 3-1
ASU 3-1
UTAH 3-0
UCLA 1-2
USC 2-1
Washington 3-1

In that scenario the conference might get seven teams though it would be six 9-12 seeds plus Arizona.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:15 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:I’m doing what I like to call one of my “midnight lute” trips.

Fly in at 2pm
Game time 8pm
Fly out at 5am.

Bear down.

This is awesome. RESPECT.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:57 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:I’m doing what I like to call one of my “midnight lute” trips.

Fly in at 2pm
Game time 8pm
Fly out at 5am.

Bear down.
This is awesome. RESPECT.

Lol thanks dude.

Wife used question why I put EVERYTHING on my American Airlines card...(and pay off at the end of the month)

I save my miles for exactly trips like this.

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:28 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Bearing down from Eugene this sat!!!

Can you vomit on the floor so we can finally test the theory that vomit is invisible on that floor?

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:01 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:I’m doing what I like to call one of my “midnight lute” trips.

Fly in at 2pm
Game time 8pm
Fly out at 5am.

Bear down.

Awesome CST. Major respect and props...way to represent! Bear Down and enjoy.

PS. If you can sneak on the floor and take a crap on it please do....It’s not like anyone would ever notice, lol.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:03 pm

splitsecond wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Bearing down from Eugene this sat!!!
Can you vomit on the floor so we can finally test the theory that vomit is invisible on that floor?

Lol, I didn’t even notice your comment until I posted mine....similar minds about that disgusting court!

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:19 pm

Have a great trip, CST! Bear Down.

A beware - no Uber or Lift in Eugene, unless something changed in the last year. Just the taxis.

RaisingArizona · Post by **RaisingArizona** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:22 pm

It has not changed.

CatMG · Post by **CatMG** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:41 pm

So is it safe to assume OU moves up to a 5 seed after their 6th loss in a row (9th loss in the last 11 games)?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:56 pm

Longhorned wrote:Have a great trip, CST! Bear Down.

A beware - no Uber or Lift in Eugene, unless something changed in the last year. Just the taxis.

Whoa really? That is a bummer. Thanks for the tip.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:05 am

3 in the West on the 2nd most accurate site over the last 5 years in terms of seeding projections

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