Sean Miller

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:01 pm

BibbysTowelDude wrote:I’m still of the belief that Miller passing over documents means he wants to be here.

Did the documents satisfy those who control his employment?

This is a very important argument...Miller was said to give up all of his phone records and knows that they vindicate him...this information is now squarely in the hands of the board...and they are apparently seriously questioning the ESPN report...

That should tell us a lot about their current posture in this...there is a very high possibility that they come out and defend Miller...

I think the odds are as equal that we hear Miller is free to coach the rest of the season as we do that he is sidelined, mainly because they know the FBI case is going to SHUT DOWN anymore leaks...

Think it through like an administrator...no more leaks, do we make noise and verify the suspicion that Miller is dirty or do we stand by him and discuss departure later in the year?

No brainer here folks.

The only people I see calling for the President to act now are people with axes to grind and very little vitality in their dicks...

What does it hurt to wait for hard core evidence to fire him with cause?

They could drop the boom on him like they did Book in a heartbeat if the evidence comes out as real, to do so prematurely is just impatience and bad management.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:04 pm

CatFanOneMil wrote:
BibbysTowelDude wrote:I’m still of the belief that Miller passing over documents means he wants to be here.

Did the documents satisfy those who control his employment?
This is a very important argument...Miller was said to give up all of his phone records and knows that they vindicate him...this information is now squarely in the hands of the board...and they are apparently seriously questioning the ESPN report...

That should tell us a lot about their current posture in this...there is a very high possibility that they come out and defend Miller...

I think the odds are as equal that we hear Miller is free to coach the rest of the season as we do that he is sidelined, mainly because they know the FBI case is going to SHUT DOWN anymore leaks...

Think it through like an administrator...no more leaks, do we make noise and verify the suspicion that Miller is dirty or do we stand by him and discuss departure later in the year?

No brainer here folks.

That's what is taking long it's the law attorneys for miller and school calling the feds and getting it squared away not legal what's going on. Like I keep saying boys. Zo and miller back soon

BE4RDOWN21 · Post by **BE4RDOWN21** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:04 pm

I think it also comes down to..
Heeke/Robbins: “Sean, do you want to stay here...”
Sean: “Idk”
Heeke/Robbins: “okay, let’s look at an amiclible split”

phenom5 · Post by **phenom5** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:08 pm

CatHoops wrote: That's what is taking long it's the law attorneys for miller and school calling the feds and getting it squared away not legal what's going on. Like I keep saying boys. Zo and miller back soon

I have no idea if that's what's actually happening, but I want to believe.

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:08 pm

Whelp Noon came and went with nothing...did it go to the media clearinghouse or is it another nothing burger for lunch day?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:10 pm

I've got to leave for a meeting in 5 minutes. This has gotten ridiculous.

phxcat23 · Post by **phxcat23** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:11 pm

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I think it also comes down to..
Heeke/Robbins: “Sean, do you want to stay here...”
Sean: “Idk”
Heeke/Robbins: “okay, let’s look at an amiclible split”

I don't think it's a matter of him wanting to stay, but he sees bigger picture as it being too much of a distraction to come back.
I hope you're right HoopCat, and that they are going through everything so they can lay it down hard, and have 100% certainty to back him and Zo.

Dosia · Post by **Dosia** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:12 pm

Longhorned wrote:I've got to leave for a meeting in 5 minutes. This has gotten ridiculous.

No kidding. I'm way too anxious

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:14 pm

ugh.

f5

ugh.

f5

i'm getting twitchy.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:14 pm

Simply torture at this point.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:15 pm

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:15 pm

Here is the thing, if the position of the AD and ABOR was to move on and eliminate the distraction regardless of personal feelings about Miller or his guilt or innocence, the only protocol is to get advice on the implications of firing him now vs putting him on leave. PERIOD.

This has now gone one for almost 5 days.

Read into that however you want.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:16 pm

I feel the minute I stop pressing F5 and leave for 3 hours to be a functional human everything will go down.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:17 pm

cats101 wrote:I feel the minute I stop pressing F5 and leave for 3 hours to be a functional human everything will go down.

This.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:17 pm

Longhorned wrote:I've got to leave for a meeting in 5 minutes. This has gotten ridiculous.

Bad Fan

phenom5 · Post by **phenom5** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:17 pm

cats101 wrote:I feel the minute I stop pressing F5 and leave for 3 hours to be a functional human everything will go down.

okay, can you hurry up then.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:19 pm

Alieberman wrote:
Longhorned wrote:I've got to leave for a meeting in 5 minutes. This has gotten ridiculous.
Bad Fan

lmao

jigsaw · Post by **jigsaw** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:21 pm

Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:22 pm

I kind of feel like if Sean Miller ever read this thread he would quit immediately and leave the country in fear of a pack of rabid crazy obsessive fans. (Myself included)

jigsaw · Post by **jigsaw** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:23 pm

jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

Forgot to add, meeting at 2:00, although the notice tells you pretty much everything you need to know.

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:24 pm

Alieberman wrote:I kind of feel like if Sean Miller ever read this thread he would quit immediately and leave the country in fear of a pack of rabid crazy obsessive fans. (Myself included)

Would that make him a bad fan of himself?

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:24 pm

Maybe you all should step away so the rest of us can hear some news

In re UofA · Post by **In re UofA** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:24 pm

jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

It’s over.

BE4RDOWN21 · Post by **BE4RDOWN21** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:24 pm

jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

He's done.

"...discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

They are probably looking to see the financial ramifications of terminating his contract

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:24 pm

NYCat wrote:

I sent a letter to the editor requesting his dismissal.

You ALL should

jigsaw · Post by **jigsaw** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:25 pm

In re UofA wrote:
jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."
It’s over.

Yep. I'm pretty confident they will not be discussing extending the employment contract.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:25 pm

jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

Why would they decide to recommend letting him go on game day

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:27 pm

Could they be discussing altering to conclude at the end of the basketball season?

Or is that just naïve, wishful thinking?

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:28 pm

Lmao at the reactions to that memo....

jigsaw · Post by **jigsaw** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:28 pm

jigsaw wrote:
jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."
Forgot to add, meeting at 2:00, although the notice tells you pretty much everything you need to know.

here is the link https://public.azregents.edu/Public%20N ... otice.pdf/" target="_blank

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm

EastCoastCat wrote:Could they be discussing altering to conclude at the end of the basketball season?

Or is that just naïve, wishful thinking?

Nobody really knows

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:29 pm

NYCat wrote:
jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."
Why would they decide to recommend letting him go on game day

Because its the last day they can NOT respond...

Discuss get plan, go to media at game day...

Of course just because they are discussing his contract with legal does not mean he's gone , this would be the ONLY technical answer they could give for an emergency closed door meeting...you can't just make up a reason for an emergency session it has to have a legal condition.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:30 pm

Well I guess the ABOR doesn't really have the power to get rid of Miller

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:31 pm

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:31 pm

He better be on that fucking sideline tomorrow. That's all I've got to say.

This just sucks to no end.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:32 pm

EastCoastCat wrote:He better be on that fucking sideline tomorrow. That's all I've got to say.

This just sucks to no end.

He's missed every practice this week, he's not going to coach

jigsaw · Post by **jigsaw** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:33 pm

NYCat wrote:
jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."
Why would they decide to recommend letting him go on game day

Chances are that Coach Miller and the University reached an agreement for his termination/buyout today. Open Meeting Law requires 24 hour notice of the ABOR meeting so the soonest they can meet to discuss is tomorrow.

The school still can announce the "agreement, subject to ABOR approval" before that meeting.

BE4RDOWN21 · Post by **BE4RDOWN21** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:33 pm

NYCat wrote:Well I guess the ABOR doesn't really have the power to get rid of Miller

Maybe they are looking at ways that the can restructure, pay him less? Breach of original contract? Sorry, naivety at its finest

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:34 pm

NYCat wrote:Well I guess the ABOR doesn't really have the power to get rid of Miller

The university president usually goes with the ABOR bit Robbins has final final say

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:35 pm

Maybe wishful thinking but maybe ABOR wants protection on the contract if more shit hits the fan?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:35 pm

jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

https://www.azleg.gov/ars/38/00431-03.htm" target="_blank

I'm a little concerned about the subsection 4 cite, but the rest of the language is boilerplate.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:35 pm

Well shit, this is not how I wanted the Sean Miller era to end. I feel really bad for the kids. They deserve better all this fud

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:35 pm

An awful lot of jumping to conclusions.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:35 pm

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:
jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."
He's done.

"...discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

They are probably looking to see the financial ramifications of terminating his contract

A.R.S 38-431.03(a)(1): "Discussion or consideration of employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, demotion, dismissal, salaries, disciplining or resignation of a public officer, appointee or employee of any public body....."

(a)(3): "Discussion or consultation for legal advice with the attorney or attorneys of the public body."

(a)(4): Discussion or consultation with the public body in order to consider its position and instruct its attorneys regarding the public body's position regarding contracts that are the subject of negotiations, in pending or contemplated litigation or in settlement discussions conducted in order to avoid or resolve litigation."

Both good and bad options covered in all that.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:35 pm

NYCat wrote:

What a punchable face.

phxcat23 · Post by **phxcat23** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:36 pm

CatHoops what happened to both Zo and Miller coming back soon??!?

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:37 pm

NYCat wrote:

Lawyers of both Arizona head coach Sean Miller and the University of Arizona spent Tuesday in deep negotiations regarding Miller's future with the school, sources told 247Sports. By the end of Tuesday, the sides had yet to reach an amicable agreement regarding options for Miller to return to the sideline. Miller missed practice yet again on Tuesday.

Negotiations have continued into Wednesday, and as of this report he's not expected to be at practice today, sources told 247Sports.

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:37 pm

Miller missing practices is not a big deal. He’s not barred from the game plan.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:38 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
BE4RDOWN21 wrote:
jigsaw wrote:Board of Regents meeting tomorrow. Notice includes this, "The board will convene in executive session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03 (A) (1), (3) and (4) for legal advice and discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."
He's done.

"...discussion regarding University of Arizona men’s basketball and the multiple-year employment contract for head men’s basketball coach."

They are probably looking to see the financial ramifications of terminating his contract
A.R.S 38-431.03(a)(1): "Discussion or consideration of employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, demotion, dismissal, salaries, disciplining or resignation of a public officer, appointee or employee of any public body....."

(a)(3): "Discussion or consultation for legal advice with the attorney or attorneys of the public body."

(a)(4): Discussion or consultation with the public body in order to consider its position and instruct its attorneys regarding the public body's position regarding contracts that are the subject of negotiations, in pending or contemplated litigation or in settlement discussions conducted in order to avoid or resolve litigation."

Both good and bad options covered in all that.

Funny, I posted that link right above.

If they put in the cite to a4 for a reason, that worries me. If it's just an all options list, the rest is pretty blah. Just about authority for a meeting.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:38 pm

lifetime contract

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