Another plane crash

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu May 19, 2016 8:41 am

Thinking it was a bomb. Plane turned twice and dive sharply before disappearing. How does a bomb get on a plane at an airport like Paris, especially in the wake of the Brussels attacks? Help from the inside?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu May 19, 2016 9:22 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Thinking it was a bomb. Plane turned twice and dive sharply before disappearing. How does a bomb get on a plane at an airport like Paris, especially in the wake of the Brussels attacks? Help from the inside?

Egyptian security officials said they were running background checks on the passengers to see if any had links to extremists.

Don't they do that already? Isn't there an international no fly list?

I was thinking the same thing, inside job. Someone not on the jet stowed one in luggage.

B-52 lost, fortunately no loss of life:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada ... ntent=link" target="_blank

A B-52 bomber has crashed shortly after take-off at a US base in Guam, the US Air Force says.
It says all seven crew members safely left the aircraft after the incident at 08:30 local time (22:30 GMT Wednesday) at Andersen Air Force Base.
The US Air Force told the BBC it was treating the incident as a "mishap".
The bomber was deployed to the US island territory from North Dakota as part of the military's continuous presence in the Pacific.
Local news site Kuam quoted the Guam governor's office as saying: "We assure the public this does not appear to be an attack."

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu May 19, 2016 12:03 pm

Airport workers in Egypt or in France.

Weakest link in security and anti discrimination law in most western countries prohibit what you can do to address. Either someone plants something in Paris or if in Egypt, with a timed device set to go off on the return trip.

This Is a huge issue within the safety and preparedness literature.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu May 19, 2016 12:09 pm

Such awesome info right before I'm supposed to get on a plane with my kids.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu May 19, 2016 1:41 pm

Chicat wrote:Such awesome info right before I'm supposed to get on a plane with my kids.

Not too belittle the deaths, they are extremely tragic, but you thought the TSA lines were long yesterday...

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu May 19, 2016 1:49 pm

I'm definitely getting to the airport over 2 hours early on Sunday...

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu May 19, 2016 2:04 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:I'm definitely getting to the airport over 2 hours early on Sunday...

Out of Tucson? That's never nessasary. 10 minutes before boarding time is usually good enough!

I'm flying out of phx next week... There I may need to get there 2 hours early

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu May 19, 2016 2:55 pm

Nope Phoenix. Tucson is a piece of cake.

a few years ago I got an email from the airline at 2:30 pm saying I could switch my Tucson to Denver flight from the next morning to that afternoon for $25. The flight departed at 4:20. I managed to shower, pack, drive to the airport (live 25 mins away), take the shuttle, get a boarding pass, go through security and grab something to eat and be sitting at the gate by 3:45.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu May 19, 2016 3:05 pm

Merkin wrote:
Chicat wrote:Such awesome info right before I'm supposed to get on a plane with my kids.

Not too belittle the deaths, they are extremely tragic, but you thought the TSA lines were long yesterday...

7:45 am flight at Midway. FML...

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu May 19, 2016 3:26 pm

yeah...i'd say get there by 5:30...

legallykenny · Post by **legallykenny** » Fri May 20, 2016 1:54 pm

Seems more like an onboard fire that burned out the avionics bay than terrorism.

Daryl Zero · Post by **Daryl Zero** » Fri May 20, 2016 2:17 pm

legallykenny wrote:Seems more like an onboard fire that burned out the avionics bay then terrorism.

Donald Trump wasn't going to wait to see what the facts said. He already pegged this as terrorism and used it as a political fodder immediately.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/politics/ ... terrorism/

Donald Trump blamed terrorism for the EgyptAir Flight 804 crash in a tweet posted early Thursday morning, even though authorities are still investigating the cause of the crash.

"Looks like yet another terrorist attack. Airplane departed from Paris. When will we get tough, smart and vigilant? Great hate and sickness!" the presumptive GOP nominee tweeted at about 6:30 a.m. ET.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri May 20, 2016 2:35 pm

What's funny is that in a pre-Trump world anyone would be chastised for both immediately jumping to conclusions and using them for political purposes. But the media has seen the viewership numbers and instead they're like, "Thank you sir, may we have another?"

Daryl Zero · Post by **Daryl Zero** » Fri May 20, 2016 2:52 pm

Chicat wrote:What's funny is that in a pre-Trump world anyone would be chastised for both immediately jumping to conclusions and using them for political purposes. But the media has seen the viewership numbers and instead they're like, "Thank you sir, may we have another?"

Trump has to feel he wins either way. He jumps in early and claims that somehow Obama/Clinton are responsible for this by being too soft on terrorism. If he is correct, he looks strong. If he is wrong, oh well, he was making a good show of being strong.

You almost have to feel that any terror attack on the US that succeeds in the next few months might get Mr. Blowhard elected.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri May 20, 2016 3:38 pm

I want to move to New Zealand.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:43 pm

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:45 pm

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:05 pm

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:09 pm

looks like an A+ job by the flight crew to get people out immediately.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:18 pm

Sidenote: We live in an amazing age when it comes to information sharing...

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:26 pm

Chicat wrote:
Sidenote: We live in an amazing age when it comes to information sharing...

It has its downside.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:37 pm

Those people were still pretty close. Don't you think they would get them far away in case it explodes. I mean those wings are full of fuel right

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:37 pm

azgreg wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Sidenote: We live in an amazing age when it comes to information sharing...
It has its downside.

And that can be amazing too.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:38 pm

Thanks Obama

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:04 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:39 pm

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:50 pm

yeesh what's going on

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:17 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:yeesh what's going on

Samsung???

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:33 am

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:30 am

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:48 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:31 am

Glad they are alive, and hopefully turn out to be OK

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:36 am

Merkin wrote:Glad they are alive, and hopefully turn out to be OK

Harrison Ford?

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:43 pm

i pass that section of the 405 on my way to and from work every day -- crazy

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:05 am

I have a cousin that trains foreign pilots at DM for the ANG, wonder if he knew him?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:11 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:08 am

Excluding charters apparently.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:11 am

Russian plane carrying 71 passengers dissapears from radar after lifting off from Moscow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-eu ... ssion=true" target="_blank

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:07 am

CatsbyAZ wrote:Russian plane carrying 71 passengers dissapears from radar after lifting off from Moscow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-eu ... ssion=true" target="_blank

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:08 am

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:40 am

Cuba’s state-run television reports that a Boeing 737 Cubana de Aviacion flight crashed as it took off from Havana’s Jose Marti airport.

An airport source tells CNN’s Patrick Oppmann that there are casualties. It is unclear how many passengers were on board and/or if there are fatalities.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri May 18, 2018 4:13 pm

104 on board and they only found 3 survivors, one of which died at the hospital

http://www.granma.cu/cuba/2018-05-18/mi ... on-en-cuba" target="_blank

Woman of white complexion, approximately between 18 and 25 years old . Cranioencephalic trauma, pelvic fracture, exposed fracture of the tibia and fibula, facial abrasions and a frontal wound. He arrived at the hospital in shock, loss of blood, hemodynamic instability. Serious condition.

White skinned woman, around 30 years old , arrived at the hospital with acute subdural hematoma, fracture of the femur and tibia on the right side and fracture of the left side tibia. She was operated on surgically.

Emiley Sánchez de la O , seems to be another survivor, resident of Urbano Noris, in Holguín, 39 years old. Bilateral fracture of tibia and fibula, burns of 30 percent of the body, traumatic brain injury, intubated and ventilated.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:36 pm

All 101 people on an Aeromexico flight that crashed survived.

Check out this post in the Transportation vibe:
85 injured after Aeromexico plane crashes at airport, officials say
https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/tr ... 76364ef569" target="_blank

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:55 am

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:21 pm

SeaTac: plane is stolen from Seattle airport and crashed

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... _clipboard" target="_blank

Apparently an employee stole a plane from SeaTac and took off and was intercepted by F15s and then promptly nose dived the plane into the ground.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:23 pm

Other info saying it was a mechanic that stole it and was possibly suicidal and was like doing loops or stunts around Puget sound before crashing.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:57 am

Here’s video:

There’s audio from the cockpit too. Pretty sad stuff. Glad no one on the ground was hurt.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:56 am

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:29 pm

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:52 pm

he didn't do a very good job.

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