Preseason Lists and Rankings

Moderators: UAdevil, JMarkJohns

User avatar
FightWildcatsFight
Posts: 519
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:20 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by FightWildcatsFight »

ASUHATER! wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spo ... l-playoff/


College football rankings provide problems and little else in playoff era

It's true. The coaches and ap polls mean nothing to the playoff committee. The polls are now just meaningless fodder for fans and media to squabble about the first 8-9 weeks of the season and have no real purpose.
Do they not consider polls when they look at SoS, good wins, etc?
User avatar
ASUHATER!
Posts: 18158
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:21 pm
Reputation: 194
Location: tucson, az

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by ASUHATER! »

Reading that article where they interviewed the people on the committee...they basically said they completely ignored the polls. There are other ways to look at sos
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

ASUHATER! wrote:Reading that article where they interviewed the people on the committee...they basically said they completely ignored the polls. There are other ways to look at sos
That's what they said, but.................
User avatar
FightWildcatsFight
Posts: 519
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:20 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: BDW Premium Content

Post by FightWildcatsFight »

FightWildcatsFight wrote:It's that time of the year for the OFFICIAL FightWildcatsFight preseason rankings, based only on pure facts and science.

After a thorough and complex statistical analysis based on 6 key factors, I have definitively determined the the most accurate ranking of each team in the PAC12. This ranking is bar none the most scientifically rigorous study ever done on PAC12 football.

Each team is scored out of a possible 100 points.

Image

The Official FWF ranking model really likes what Cal returns on both sides of the ball, and also predicts an extremely tight race in the south.
Patented FWF ranking algorithm off to a good start.
azcat49
Posts: 11337
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:33 pm
Reputation: 1049
Location: Gilbert Az

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azcat49 »

Yep, keeping an eye on this (and you LOL). Great job so far
Waiting at the Rose Bowl patiently for the cats to arrive
"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more wildcat sports"
2019 BDW Survivor Pool Champion
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/fo ... ll/2017/1/" target="_blank

Amway Coaches Poll

1) Alabama
2) Ohio State
3) Florida State
4) Southern California
5) Clemson
6) Penn State
7) Washington
8) Oklahoma
9) Michigan
10) Wisconsin
11) Oklahoma State
12) Louisiana State
13) Auburn
14) Stanford
15) Georgia
16) Florida
17) Louisville
18) Miami
19) Kansas State
20) West Virginia
21) South Florida
22) Virginia Tech
23) Texas
24) Tennessee
25) Utah

Others Receiving Votes
Washington State 99; Colorado 72; TCU 58; Boise State 49; Notre Dame 49; Texas A&M 46; Pittsburgh 45; North Carolina State 39; Oregon 37; Northwestern 25; Nebraska 23; Memphis 22; Arkansas 22; Mississippi State 19; San Diego State 18; Appalachian State 11; Brigham Young 10; Georgia Tech 10; Tulsa 10; Wyoming 9; Western Michigan 8; Temple 8; North Carolina 8; Houston 7; Troy 6; Minnesota 6; Iowa 5; Louisiana Tech 4; Syracuse 3; Arizona 2; Army 1; Colorado State 1; Michigan State 1; Maryland 1; Toledo 1; UCLA 1.
User avatar
chiefzona
Posts: 2171
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:34 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by chiefzona »

Yeah....coaches. Some of them know nothing outside of their own program.
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

chiefzona wrote:Yeah....coaches. Some of them know nothing outside of their own program.
My bet is hardly any of them vote in this poll anyways. More than likely someone from the SID.
PHXCATS
Posts: 7016
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:29 pm
Reputation: -67

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by PHXCATS »

chiefzona wrote:Yeah....coaches. Some of them know nothing outside of their own program.
Except for 1 coach thinking Arizona is the 24th best team in the country or 2 coaches thinking Arizona is the 25th best team in the country what do you have a problem with?
2018 Bear Down Wildcats Conference Championship Challenge Champion
User avatar
chiefzona
Posts: 2171
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:34 pm
Reputation: 0

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by chiefzona »

PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Yeah....coaches. Some of them know nothing outside of their own program.
Except for 1 coach thinking Arizona is the 24th best team in the country or 2 coaches thinking Arizona is the 25th best team in the country what do you have a problem with?

Arizona isn't even a top 50 program right now. It's ludicrous. But we can all pretend it's all cool, right?
User avatar
Merkin
Posts: 43431
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:31 am
Reputation: 1584
Location: UA basketball smells like....victory

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by Merkin »

Steve Spurrier used to vote Duke for the preseason poll, back when Duke sucked at football since he had fond memories coaching there.
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 46680
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3996
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by Chicat »

chiefzona wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
chiefzona wrote:Yeah....coaches. Some of them know nothing outside of their own program.
Except for 1 coach thinking Arizona is the 24th best team in the country or 2 coaches thinking Arizona is the 25th best team in the country what do you have a problem with?

Arizona isn't even a top 50 program right now. It's ludicrous. But we can all pretend it's all cool, right?
Why does it matter?
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
User avatar
scumdevils86
Posts: 11664
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 pm
Reputation: 232
Location: t-town

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by scumdevils86 »

it doesn't matter right now

we're a fringe top 25 team in the absolutely best cast scenario for 2017.
User avatar
UALoco
Posts: 1481
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:53 am
Reputation: 12

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by UALoco »

people just looking for shit to argue about...
MrBug708
Posts: 3777
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:19 pm
Reputation: 441

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by MrBug708 »

More votes than UCLA
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

PHXCATS
Posts: 7016
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:29 pm
Reputation: -67

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by PHXCATS »

azgreg wrote:
Seems right to me
2018 Bear Down Wildcats Conference Championship Challenge Champion
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

User avatar
Sid
Posts: 1298
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:54 pm
Reputation: 23

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by Sid »

azgreg wrote:
Just another reason why Barstool freaking rules!
PHXCATS
Posts: 7016
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:29 pm
Reputation: -67

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by PHXCATS »

I dont get barstool. They have some funny tweets especially PFTCommentator but still what is their drive and goal? Just cuss a lot and be funny but provide no real depth and discussion?
2018 Bear Down Wildcats Conference Championship Challenge Champion
btfd16
Posts: 1484
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:56 am
Reputation: 29
Location: Newport Beach, CA

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by btfd16 »

PHXCATS wrote:I dont get barstool. They have some funny tweets especially PFTCommentator but still what is their drive and goal? Just cuss a lot and be funny but provide no real depth and discussion?
It is meant as a satirical, non PC, take on sports media. The podcast Pardon My Take is by far the best part, as the blogs are unreadable, but they make fun of typical, sports media who regurgitate the same old tropes when there is nothing to talk about. The MJ vs Lebron, Mount Rushmore of different topics, stay woke, the same old headlines etc. It is not for everybody by any means, but Pardon My Take is very funny. They get pretty big names for interviews and try to be different. Some people get their humor (SVP, CJ McCollum, Bortles, Blake Griffin, Rachel Nichols) and some people don't (Dak, Addison Russell, AJ Green). Bill Walton was a hilarious interview especially listening to him every week call the Cats games.
User avatar
ASUHATER!
Posts: 18158
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:21 pm
Reputation: 194
Location: tucson, az

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by ASUHATER! »

Saw a list that said Arizona is the 112th best team against the spread the last 10 seasons.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

User avatar
ASUHATER!
Posts: 18158
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:21 pm
Reputation: 194
Location: tucson, az

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by ASUHATER! »

That's the first preseason list I've seen us ranked higher than like #35
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... -19-games/" target="_blank

(1) Alabama
(2) Clemson
(3) Ohio State
(4) Oklahoma

Rose: Wisconsin vs Washington

Fiesta: Stanford vs Boise St

Holiday: Iowa vs. Arizona

San Francisco: Northwestern vs Utah

Hyundai Sun: Oregon vs North Carolina

Alamo: West Virginia vs USC

Cactus: Iowa St vs California

Las Vegas: Colorado vs Fresno State
MrMeow
Posts: 1054
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:26 pm
Reputation: 23

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by MrMeow »

azgreg wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... -19-games/" target="_blank

(1) Alabama
(2) Clemson
(3) Ohio State
(4) Oklahoma

Rose: Wisconsin vs Washington

Fiesta: Stanford vs Boise St

Holiday: Iowa vs. Arizona

San Francisco: Northwestern vs Utah

Hyundai Sun: Oregon vs North Carolina

Alamo: West Virginia vs USC

Cactus: Iowa St vs California

Las Vegas: Colorado vs Fresno State
New Years Eve at the "Q"? Maybe

The first time I went we embarrassed Nebraska. The last time Nebraska embarrassed us - really bad.
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

User avatar
Carcassdragger
Posts: 3152
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:48 pm
Reputation: 503

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by Carcassdragger »

New Years Eve at the "Q"? Maybe

The first time I went we embarrassed Nebraska. The last time Nebraska embarrassed us - really bad.




I sat through that debacle in the rain. The ....whole....putrid........thing.

But the Holiday Bowl itself is great.
2020 BEARDOWN WILDCATS RAP Champion
2018 BEARDOWN WILDCATS SURVIVAL POOL Champion
2017 BEARDOWN WILDCATS RAP Champion
2013 GOAZCATS SURVIVAL POOL Champion
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

User avatar
scumdevils86
Posts: 11664
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 pm
Reputation: 232
Location: t-town

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by scumdevils86 »

Poor Beavs.
User avatar
Merkin
Posts: 43431
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:31 am
Reputation: 1584
Location: UA basketball smells like....victory

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by Merkin »

Kiper says 9 wins, maybe 10.

http://allsportstucson.com/2018/08/18/e ... in-pac-12/" target="_blank
User avatar
whatisee
Posts: 1200
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:34 pm
Reputation: 8

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by whatisee »

We received 2 votes in the Coaches poll. Hopefully that’s motivation for the team
User avatar
ASUHATER!
Posts: 18158
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:21 pm
Reputation: 194
Location: tucson, az

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by ASUHATER! »

#31 in the AP poll. If we start at 4-0 we will probably be around #20 going into the USC game.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
User avatar
PieceOfMeat
Posts: 14080
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:14 pm
Reputation: 337

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by PieceOfMeat »

A good spot to discuss your thoughts on UofA's pre-season ranking and what they'll need to do this season to get a certain # of wins is: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5274" target="_blank

Could win you a couple of tickets to the BYU game! (or would win someone you know tickets!)
It's long past time to bring this back to the court, let's do it with a small update:

Image
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

User avatar
Carcassdragger
Posts: 3152
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:48 pm
Reputation: 503

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by Carcassdragger »

azgreg wrote:

Hopefully, we'll be better than this. Hope springs eternal in the mail groin and in the heart of a wildcat fan.
2020 BEARDOWN WILDCATS RAP Champion
2018 BEARDOWN WILDCATS SURVIVAL POOL Champion
2017 BEARDOWN WILDCATS RAP Champion
2013 GOAZCATS SURVIVAL POOL Champion
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

User avatar
ASUHATER!
Posts: 18158
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:21 pm
Reputation: 194
Location: tucson, az

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by ASUHATER! »

So ESPN has us at #52 and CBS at #90? CBS really hates the PAC 12 this year it looks like with having 4 teams at 90 and below. That means CBS thinks there's like 20-25 group of 5 teams better than 1/3 of the conference.

CBS thinks that Hawaii, Eastern Michigan, Louisiana Lafayette, Toledo, and Miami of Ohio are better than Arizona, UCLA and Colorado?
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
User avatar
Chicat
Posts: 46680
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:19 pm
Reputation: 3996
Location: Your mother's basement

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by Chicat »

Maybe they’re factoring in the uncertainty surrounding Sean Miller.....
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
User avatar
azgreg
Posts: 26606
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:01 pm
Reputation: 1566

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by azgreg »

User avatar
scumdevils86
Posts: 11664
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:34 pm
Reputation: 232
Location: t-town

Re: Preseason Lists and Rankings

Post by scumdevils86 »

If by some miracle we win the bye week, beat a likely 0-4 UCLA at home and somehow dig out a win in the road with an inconsistent Colorado...we could be borderline ranked for a home game with Washington. Though they do have to play at BYU and Stanford and home against USC before then.
Post Reply