2018-2019 Arizona Basketball

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:30 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:So this team isn't making the ncaa tourney is it.
Depends on Vegas.

If the Cats go 12-6 or better and win one in Vegas they will be in the field of 68

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:32 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:So this team isn't making the ncaa tourney is it.
Depends on Vegas.

Agree. i've been saying that for a month.

I don't buy the "go 12-6 and win a game or two in Vegas and we are in". The PAC12 stinks and our NET
ranking is NOT going to get us in. Not to mention the fact that the NCAA is going to use any excuse they can
not to invite University 4.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:35 am

PieceOfMeat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:So this team isn't making the ncaa tourney is it.
Depends on Vegas.
I have a very hard time believing that this team could/would win 3(possibly 4) games in as many nights in the pac12 tourney.

It depends on the match ups and whether certain players (The Brandon Boys) can start hitting perimeter shots between now and March.

if we get lucky Oregon & UW end up on the opposite side of the bracket from us.

In any event I believe that Winning the P12 tourney is a much more realistic path than finishing in the top 3 and winning 1 or 2 games in Vegas.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:43 am

PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:So this team isn't making the ncaa tourney is it.
Depends on Vegas.
If the Cats go 12-6 or better and win one in Vegas they will be in the field of 68

No.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:44 am

dmjcat wrote:Not to mention the fact that the NCAA is going to use any excuse they can
not to invite University 4.

LOL ooooook

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:45 am

dmjcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:So this team isn't making the ncaa tourney is it.
Depends on Vegas.
Agree. i've been saying that for a month.

I don't buy the "go 12-6 and win a game or two in Vegas and we are in". The PAC12 stinks and our NET
ranking is NOT going to get us in. Not to mention the fact that the NCAA is going to use any excuse they can
not to invite University 4.

The Cats are in everyone's brackets now. Do you really think they all are expecting the Cats to go 18-0 or 17-1?

My god the loser talk is back in full force

This team is fine and Miller is fine for now. Stop crying over everything that doesnt go the Cats way. If our guys hit the free throws especially the front ends of one and ones and get one more fucking offensive rebound the Cats likely win dispite playing awful on offense. Cats were held to move than 20 points below their conference average. Some was due to Oregon some was due to missing free throws easy shots in the paint and open 3s. Defense has been awesome. Held every team in conference to under their scoring average and have three team's lowest offensive output in conference to date. Rebounding has been better but missed a few big ones last night. Tough shit it happens, or do we just blame shit that doesnt go our way in the NCAA tournament

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:45 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:So this team isn't making the ncaa tourney is it.
Depends on Vegas.
If the Cats go 12-6 or better and win one in Vegas they will be in the field of 68
No.

Yep, LOOK IT

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:48 am

Can they make the tournament? Sure. Pac is wide open. But do they have the talent to do it? Doesn't appear so.

At this point we just have to be realistic that this isn't a good team. There wasn't really a single guy last night who they could rely on for a big bucket. And the basketball IQ all around is seriously lacking. But hey, we kind of expected this right?

I said before this 5 game stretch that the cats needed to go at LEAST 3-2 to stay alive. 4-1 would be great. we are now 0-1 with OregonST, @UCLA, @USC, @ASSU remaining. Can we win 3 of those 4? Not with the way they played last night.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:52 am

We all knew going in this year would probably not be very good.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:20 am

ASUHATER! wrote:We all knew going in this year would probably not be very good.

I was just thinking that this morning. 12-5 at this point with this team of no NBA lock players? I would definitely have taken that beginning of the season.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:29 am

Merkin wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:We all knew going in this year would probably not be very good.
I was just thinking that this morning. 12-5 at this point with this team of no NBA lock players? I would definitely have taken that beginning of the season.

Heck, even more recently, if you'd told me at the beginning of Pac play that if we beat OSU, we're on pace for a 15-3 Pac record, I would have taken that in a heartbeat.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:12 pm

I’m transferring

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:14 pm

Alieberman wrote:I’m transferring

You've graduated, so you don't even need to sit a year.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:35 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:So this team isn't making the ncaa tourney is it.
Depends on Vegas.
If the Cats go 12-6 or better and win one in Vegas they will be in the field of 68
No.
Yep, LOOK IT

Huh?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:37 pm

Usually people say Book it or you can book it

I said Look due to Hansen

Cats go better than 12-6 and win one in Vegas the Cats will make the NCAA, you can bank on that

SabinoDrifter · Post by **SabinoDrifter** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:30 pm

I think it is premature to determine what a good resume would be compared to others that will be on the bubble. According to bracket matrix as of yesterday, the last four in were:

Florida (Net 43, KenPom 23)
Temple (Net 46, KenPom 70)
Arizona State (Net 75, KenPom 62)
Washington (Net 40, KenPom 45)

And the First Four Out are...

Butler (Net 47, KenPom 39)
Saint Louis (Net 66, KenPom 87)
Alabama (Net 56, KenPom 59)
San Francisco (Net 48, KenPom 49)

Bubble is pretty weak.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:27 pm

Maybe Im losing my mind but it felt like Barcello provided the littlest of sparks off the bench against Oregon. Hit a nice 3...had some hustle plays. Im not saying he's a superstar, but maybe, just maybe, he can knock down a couple of 3s and give us some decent minutes?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:57 pm

Found ourselves a real fan!

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:14 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:06 pm

Nice game Luther! That's the Luther we need the rest of the way.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:14 pm

13-27 from 3 tonight. 6-22 against Oregon.

There's the story of the weekend.

Also, games like tonight are why fans shouldn't quit on teams. It was fun watching us fight through the loss of Jeter and take down a decent team.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:15 pm

azgreg wrote:Nice game Luther! That's the Luther we need the rest of the way.

Also, Barcello 2-3 from 3

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:27 pm

84Cat wrote:

Looks like Beard doesn’t know how to coach against a zone either. Eliminate him from the fictional future coaching search!

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:52 pm

Gutsy win.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:49 pm

So how are we feeling about the USC game? I see a few names I recognize, but admittedly have not seen them play this year.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:04 pm

Any word on Chase availability? If he plays and our offense shows up I think we win a close 1

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:44 pm

cats101 wrote:So how are we feeling about the USC game? I see a few names I recognize, but admittedly have not seen them play this year.

Boatright and Rakocevic...those are their weapons. Generally, their team is long and pretty athletic. They turned over UCLA 20 times! Some of that is just bad UCLA play, but still, forcing 20 TOs is impressive. They also made 16 TOs of their own, so they don't take care of the ball all that well. They're not a good FT shooting team (66%).

If Jeter is healthy, we should win a tight one.

I'll go with

AZ 76
USC 72

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:38 pm

Both games are tossups. I would like a split. A sweep would be incredible. An ofer would be a huge hit to our tourney chances.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:19 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: An ofer would be a huge hit to our tourney chances.

That would surprise me, especially if CJ is healthy for both games.

I think a split is most likely.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:27 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Both games are tossups. I would like a split. A sweep would be incredible. An ofer would be a huge hit to our tourney chances.

I can see us beating USC in a close one. Don't see that happening with UCLA. They always play their best games against us and this year will be no different.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:15 am

We have to turn them over, both teams, but esp. Ucla. We need Coleman to channel his inner tj and Smith to get in those lanes. Jeter v Moses will be an interesting matchup.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:27 am

Certainly doesn't help that most of the coaching staff has been real sick this entire week.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:33 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Certainly doesn't help that most of the coaching staff has been real sick this entire week.

Praying the players don’t catch it.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:48 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
cats101 wrote:So how are we feeling about the USC game? I see a few names I recognize, but admittedly have not seen them play this year.
Boatright and Rakocevic...those are their weapons. Generally, their team is long and pretty athletic. They turned over UCLA 20 times! Some of that is just bad UCLA play, but still, forcing 20 TOs is impressive. They also made 16 TOs of their own, so they don't take care of the ball all that well. They're not a good FT shooting team (66%).

If Jeter is healthy, we should win a tight one.

I'll go with

AZ 76
USC 72

Thanks for the summary. Those are actually the 2 names that stuck out. Familiar with Porter, but he's suspended. Looks like Miller is 7-1 against Enfield with 1 loss coming in 4OT with all wins pretty much by double digits. Of course, that probably doesn't mean much to this team, given the circumstances.

Guess I'll prep myself for a a close one assuming Jeter is playing.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:41 am

I feel better about the USC game than I do the UCLA one. Burt then again I felt better about Oregon than Oregon State and that didn't turn out as expected. Would love to get a sweep.

Im starting to think this season isn't as much about who our opponent is as much as it is about which Arizona team shows up that day.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:01 am

Captain Obvious wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Both games are tossups. I would like a split. A sweep would be incredible. An ofer would be a huge hit to our tourney chances.
I can see us beating USC in a close one. Don't see that happening with UCLA. They always play their best games against us and this year will be no different.

I just see every game as a 50/50 proposition. There is no Pac team we can't beat if we play well. There is no Pac team we can't lose to if we play poorly.

Underrated stat, we are #19 nationally in AdjD on Kenpom. That is a great stat that gives us hope all the time.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:02 am

billk78 wrote:
Im starting to think this season isn't as much about who our opponent is as much as it is about which Arizona team shows up that day.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:35 am

billk78 wrote:I feel better about the USC game than I do the UCLA one. Burt then again I felt better about Oregon than Oregon State and that didn't turn out as expected. Would love to get a sweep.

Im starting to think this season isn't as much about who our opponent is as much as it is about which Arizona team shows up that day.

That's the black n white way to look at it, sure. There are a few teams though that I think Az would have pretty much no chance against. None are on the **remaining schedule, thankfully.

Sounds like Jeter may be limited tonight. If that's the case, my worry is their bigs cause issues with foul trouble...which means shots absolutely have to fall. This was the saving grace in the OSU game.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:19 pm

Given the health issues this week, I'm now feeling less sanguine about tonight's and Saturday's games. It's not that these teams are very good; they're not. It's that winning on the road is always hard, and our team is down a player and probably feeling the grind a little. Both games should be very close. Could go 2-0 or 0-2. Neither outcome would surprise all that much.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:55 pm

Wilbur is literally doing yoga in my office right now.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:56 pm

This team is really bad at basketball.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:40 pm

Has a 1 year transfer ever really worked out for the Cats?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:46 pm

Alieberman wrote:Has a 1 year transfer ever really worked out for the Cats?

Mark Lyons?

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:49 pm

Ryan Anderson wasn't too bad either. (Though he was in the program for 2 years.)

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:54 pm

Merkin wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Has a 1 year transfer ever really worked out for the Cats?
Mark Lyons?

Wasn't he 2 years?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 pm

Alieberman wrote:
Merkin wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Has a 1 year transfer ever really worked out for the Cats?
Mark Lyons?
Wasn't he 2 years?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... sma01.html" target="_blank

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:00 pm

I guess it just seemed like it!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:05 pm

Outside of a like 8-3 or probably better finish in conference or winning the tournament this team isn't dancing.

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:16 pm

I'm more concerned about the morale of the team. Their body language didn't look too good. They need to know how to respond when they are having a bad shooting night.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:24 pm

Keep in mind the committee will factor in that Jeter was out

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