let's talk '19

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:55 pm

azcat49 wrote:Choo what are you concerned with? Defections from our current class? I am excited about the idea of bringing in better talent as some of these guys who would return just have not developed like we had hoped. Would love to know the area of your concern

Concerned with recruiting more guys at DD's position that may cause him to want to transfer.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:11 pm

Smith already took his redshirt year, so unless he goes Div II or grad transfer, the Cats are stuck with him.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:23 pm

Merkin wrote:Smith already took his redshirt year, so unless he goes Div II or grad transfer, the Cats are stuck with him.

Grad transfer.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:28 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:Choo what are you concerned with? Defections from our current class? I am excited about the idea of bringing in better talent as some of these guys who would return just have not developed like we had hoped. Would love to know the area of your concern
Concerned with recruiting more guys at DD's position that may cause him to want to transfer.

Thx for all your great contributions. I like DD and really feel special about him as he was the first to commit after last years debacle. I hope he stays and finds a spot in the rotation.

It seems Miller is really all in on next year and is ready to gut the roster and with exception to a few guys they all might be told to seek other opportunities

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:53 pm

Oumar Ballo committed to Gonzaga.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:29 pm

We need DD back next year. I can see him making a big freshman to sophomore leap.

Sparkplug

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:40 pm

Alieberman wrote:We need DD back next year. I can see him making a big freshman to sophomore leap.

Sparkplug

Will be really depressing if things play out as they're expected to. There's still time though.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:43 pm

DD was really clutch tonight. The 3 from the corner was really timely, the spin in the lane and then the game winning dunk. OSU wins this game easily without him

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:48 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:We need DD back next year. I can see him making a big freshman to sophomore leap.

Sparkplug
Will be really depressing if things play out as they're expected to. There's still time though.

Hope he is around. I'd hate to see him transfer out.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:53 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:We need DD back next year. I can see him making a big freshman to sophomore leap.

Sparkplug
Will be really depressing if things play out as they're expected to. There's still time though.

I obviously don't know anything on the matter, but if DD continues to get real minutes the rest of the year (hopefully at least 7 more games!!!)
and Miller gives him some sort of assurances that he will be 1 or our first guards off of the bench next year with a chance to play significant minutes his Jr and Sr years.... why wouldn't he do that rather then sitting out a year?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:00 pm

Alieberman wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:We need DD back next year. I can see him making a big freshman to sophomore leap.

Sparkplug
Will be really depressing if things play out as they're expected to. There's still time though.
I obviously don't know anything on the matter, but if DD continues to get real minutes the rest of the year (hopefully at least 7 more games!!!)
and Miller gives him some sort of assurances that he will be 1 or our first guards off of the bench next year with a chance to play significant minutes his Jr and Sr years.... why wouldn't he do that rather then sitting out a year?

I hope that's enough.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:11 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:We need DD back next year. I can see him making a big freshman to sophomore leap.

Sparkplug
Will be really depressing if things play out as they're expected to. There's still time though.
I obviously don't know anything on the matter, but if DD continues to get real minutes the rest of the year (hopefully at least 7 more games!!!)
and Miller gives him some sort of assurances that he will be 1 or our first guards off of the bench next year with a chance to play significant minutes his Jr and Sr years.... why wouldn't he do that rather then sitting out a year?
I hope that's enough.

I'm guessing it would be either DD or TA first off the bench at the wing spot. We all know CSM will default to the better defender. That is assuming that BR and DS are gone. At the same time, who knows who else will be coming in with Miller stilling looking to add a couple more to the class.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:18 pm

If Miller is smart he immediately puts DD ahead of Dylan Smith on the depth chart for the rest of the season.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:32 pm

I'd tell him now that next year he is no worse than the first guy off the bench. I think he'd be great in that role.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:23 am

Alieberman wrote:If Miller is smart he immediately puts DD ahead of Dylan Smith on the depth chart for the rest of the season.

I agree with this. Smith's had a lot of shots to show what he can do and it's the same thing every time.

prh · Post by **prh** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:53 pm

Alieberman wrote:If Miller is smart he immediately puts DD ahead of Dylan Smith on the depth chart for the rest of the season.

I wish this had happened from the start of the year. It was clear we weren't going anywhere, and Smith hasn't been any better than last year.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:08 pm

Didn't Smith have 2 3's to open the game and was 3 for 4 for the first half?

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:23 pm

Yes.
I believe he scored 8 of the first 11points.
Unfortunately, he couldn’t keep up that pace.

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:48 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:We need DD back next year. I can see him making a big freshman to sophomore leap.

Sparkplug
Will be really depressing if things play out as they're expected to. There's still time though.

That is sad. This modern day culture of youth/college basketball has become so jaded.

I mean if Williams/Mannion/Green all play 30 minutes (a stretch I think) there is still 30 minutes available in the backcourt/wing. 5 probably go to Barcello to bridge any PG minutes. That leaves 25 minutes available from DD/Armstrong. Or Randolph/Armstrong.

If these guys are not willing to take minutes from an incoming freshman... then sadly maybe it is addition by subtraction.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:14 pm

Man would really suck for DD for leave.

Co-sign on giving him more amounts over smith the rest of the year

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:14 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Man would really suck for DD for leave.

Co-sign on giving him more amounts over smith the rest of the year

DD will stay. It's going to be Smith who won't be back next year.

Azgirl · Post by **Azgirl** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:45 pm

that's what I have been thinking...Smith will be leaving and deep down I believe BR will stay as well.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:57 am

Smith and Randolph leaving isn't depressing though. DD/Williams/Jeter would be

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:21 am

prh wrote:Smith and Randolph leaving isn't depressing though. DD/Williams/Jeter would be

I agree: losing any of those latter three would really suck. But losing BW or CJ would hurt a lot more than losing DD, imo.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:24 am

Jeter has to come back now just to shake off the soft label and to prove he can make it through a season without getting hurt.

Looking at his stats, he did play in 32 of Duke's 36 games as a freshman. Don't know if the 4 missed games were due to injury or just coach's choice.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:28 pm

Merkin wrote:Jeter has to come back now just to shake off the soft label and to prove he can make it through a season without getting hurt.

Looking at his stats, he did play in 32 of Duke's 36 games as a freshman. Don't know if the 4 missed games were due to injury or just coach's choice.

If memory serves, CJ just didn't play very well as a freshman. He struggled to get into that rotation.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:16 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
Merkin wrote:Jeter has to come back now just to shake off the soft label and to prove he can make it through a season without getting hurt.

Looking at his stats, he did play in 32 of Duke's 36 games as a freshman. Don't know if the 4 missed games were due to injury or just coach's choice.
If memory serves, CJ just didn't play very well as a freshman. He struggled to get into that rotation.

It wasn't bad...he was the 7/8 player for them, played in all 32 games he was available. Not one and done freshmen #s but not bad at Duke for a 3/4 year player.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:20 am

Honestly I'd look at the JUCO ranks to fill that Jeter insurance role. The grad transfer market at his position is not good at all.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:38 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Honestly I'd look at the JUCO ranks to fill that Jeter insurance role. The grad transfer market at his position is not good at all.

So not potential high school reclassifications? Any JuCo bigs that are available/interesting?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:28 pm

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Honestly I'd look at the JUCO ranks to fill that Jeter insurance role. The grad transfer market at his position is not good at all.
So not potential high school reclassifications? Any JuCo bigs that are available/interesting?

I don't know of many and quite frankly none of the guys we're on at that position for 2020 are in position to do so. There's one JUCO big who I'm not at liberty to name yet that we're looking at, I'm not sure how far that goes though. My guess is JUCO is the route we take.

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:54 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Honestly I'd look at the JUCO ranks to fill that Jeter insurance role. The grad transfer market at his position is not good at all.
So not potential high school reclassifications? Any JuCo bigs that are available/interesting?
I don't know of many and quite frankly none of the guys we're on at that position for 2020 are in position to do so. There's one JUCO big who I'm not at liberty to name yet that we're looking at, I'm not sure how far that goes though. My guess is JUCO is the route we take.

Interesting...thanks Choo.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:39 am

Does anyone know, or have a link to an explanation, of all the crazy results we need to get to that 4 seed?

I know like 5 different things have to happen, but not sure what...

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:59 am

EVCat wrote:Does anyone know, or have a link to an explanation, of all the crazy results we need to get to that 4 seed?

I know like 5 different things have to happen, but not sure what...

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildca ... 7090a.html" target="_blank

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:12 am

ok...that was before Thursday....

So it is done? No out to 4? Pascoe doesn't come out and say it today but infers that is the case...

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:24 am

Just beat ASU. If we can get a little momentum heading into next week, anything can happen.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:28 am

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com ... si-s-notes" target="_blank

.... An intriguing big man option in 2019 is Rick Assanza. A legit seven-foooter who is quick off his feet, has a solid upper body and plays with some fire, he's a piece that makes a few plays a game that make you shake your head and wonder how much potential he might have. Offensively he's still working, but the Phoenix (Ariz.) Hillcrest senior has only been playing for three years and there is a lot of raw talent to work with. He's been offered by Baylor, Texas Tech and TCU with Oregon, LSU, VCU, Arizona and Arizona State among those showing interest.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:41 am

dmjcat wrote:https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com ... si-s-notes

.... An intriguing big man option in 2019 is Rick Assanza. A legit seven-foooter who is quick off his feet, has a solid upper body and plays with some fire, he's a piece that makes a few plays a game that make you shake your head and wonder how much potential he might have. Offensively he's still working, but the Phoenix (Ariz.) Hillcrest senior has only been playing for three years and there is a lot of raw talent to work with. He's been offered by Baylor, Texas Tech and TCU with Oregon, LSU, VCU, Arizona and Arizona State among those showing interest.

Interesting. Maybe our last piece to the '19 class.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:01 pm

dmjcat wrote:https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com ... si-s-notes

.... An intriguing big man option in 2019 is Rick Assanza. A legit seven-foooter who is quick off his feet, has a solid upper body and plays with some fire, he's a piece that makes a few plays a game that make you shake your head and wonder how much potential he might have. Offensively he's still working, but the Phoenix (Ariz.) Hillcrest senior has only been playing for three years and there is a lot of raw talent to work with. He's been offered by Baylor, Texas Tech and TCU with Oregon, LSU, VCU, Arizona and Arizona State among those showing interest.

He seems very similar to Koloko.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:03 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
dmjcat wrote:https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com ... si-s-notes

.... An intriguing big man option in 2019 is Rick Assanza. A legit seven-foooter who is quick off his feet, has a solid upper body and plays with some fire, he's a piece that makes a few plays a game that make you shake your head and wonder how much potential he might have. Offensively he's still working, but the Phoenix (Ariz.) Hillcrest senior has only been playing for three years and there is a lot of raw talent to work with. He's been offered by Baylor, Texas Tech and TCU with Oregon, LSU, VCU, Arizona and Arizona State among those showing interest.
He seems very similar to Koloko.

Yeah, not sure we need another 4 year development big.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:31 am

dmjcat wrote:https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com ... si-s-notes

.... An intriguing big man option in 2019 is Rick Assanza. A legit seven-foooter who is quick off his feet, has a solid upper body and plays with some fire, he's a piece that makes a few plays a game that make you shake your head and wonder how much potential he might have. Offensively he's still working, but the Phoenix (Ariz.) Hillcrest senior has only been playing for three years and there is a lot of raw talent to work with. He's been offered by Baylor, Texas Tech and TCU with Oregon, LSU, VCU, Arizona and Arizona State among those showing interest.

I dunno. He keeps bringing the ball down before he dunks. Not a good sign when you are that big and need to do that. He will get stripped every time in Div I.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:13 am

What, then, is our biggest remaining need in filling out the 2019 roster?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:58 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:What, then, is our biggest remaining need in filling out the 2019 roster?

A 5 capable of providing immediate minutes.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:30 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Alieberman wrote:If Miller is smart he immediately puts DD ahead of Dylan Smith on the depth chart for the rest of the season.
I agree with this. Smith's had a lot of shots to show what he can do and it's the same thing every time.

Problem is, Smith seems to be the better defender. That’s what most of the analyst say.
And we know Miller defaults to the better defender

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:49 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:What, then, is our biggest remaining need in filling out the 2019 roster?
A 5 capable of providing immediate minutes.

In addition to Jeter? Like a backup?

PennZona20 · Post by **PennZona20** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:34 pm

Yes we are thin on the frontline. We all saw what happened when Jeter was out. Different team.

Obviously next year will be different but slight chance Jeter moves on. We need to have a contingency for Jeter leaving or being injured. Koloko won’t be read and we have no other rim protectors.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:18 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:What, then, is our biggest remaining need in filling out the 2019 roster?
A 5 capable of providing immediate minutes.
In addition to Jeter? Like a backup?

Yes.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:23 pm

Is it November yet?

goslingswagg · Post by **goslingswagg** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:02 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:What, then, is our biggest remaining need in filling out the 2019 roster?
A 5 capable of providing immediate minutes.
In addition to Jeter? Like a backup?
Yes.

I don’t fully understand the need for a 5 if Jeter comes back. That would mean basically 3 players (Ira, Gettings, Nnaji) for the PF spot...just seems like having 4 bigs in the rotation is enough. I’d rather get a wing shooter.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:28 am

goslingswagg wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:What, then, is our biggest remaining need in filling out the 2019 roster?
A 5 capable of providing immediate minutes.
In addition to Jeter? Like a backup?
Yes.
I don’t fully understand the need for a 5 if Jeter comes back. That would mean basically 3 players (Ira, Gettings, Nnaji) for the PF spot...just seems like having 4 bigs in the rotation is enough. I’d rather get a wing shooter.

I fail to see how having 3 guys best suited to play the 4 helps us with depth at the 5 sling? Do you trust Jeter to not get hurt and/or play through pain? Jeter gets hurt then you probably start Nnaji at the 5 and you have a 6'7 effort guy and another Ryan Luther type as your only other options if Jeter is out.

MC1983 · Post by **MC1983** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:57 am

Definitely need someone to back Jeter up at the 5.

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