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RhettRod #2 QB? I thought Gunnell was practicing with the 2nd team.


azgreg wrote:Wildcats Open 2019 with Road Contest at Hawai'i

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TATE WAS GREATER, LATER: Tate was especially strong late in the season for Arizona in 2018..
Guess the writer missed the Territorial Cup debacle.

UA was also 2-2 the last 4 games, with Tate rushing for about 120 yards total those 4 games.
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Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the first couple of games we see 8-10 guys getting regular snaps at receiver since we really don't know what we have there.
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No doubt the biggest mystery is at the wide receiver position. Do we have talent there? A couple of local guys who played other positions most of their career getting the starting job does not excel a Tom of confidence IMO
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Only like 3 guys above 6'1" at receiver though.
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azgreg wrote:
The other thing that sticks out is how few Seniors we have starting (3 offense and 2 defense). This is a young team guys. I think we have a chance to surprise, but need to temper expectations.

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Carcassdragger wrote:
azgreg wrote:
The other thing that sticks out is how few Seniors we have starting (3 offense and 2 defense). This is a young team guys. I think we have a chance to surprise, but need to temper expectations.

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This was the second thing I noticed (after finally some beef on the DL). I already am catching myself looking ahead to next year. Lol.

I am going to be honest, I am excited at the prospect of redshirting Gunnell. Just keep Khalil healthy and Rhett serviceable enough to only have Grant play 4 games. Could be huge in the long run.
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How long into this game is it acceptable for me to wait before I first call for Mazzone to be fired? First drive?
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btfd16 wrote:How long into this game is it acceptable for me to wait before I first call for Mazzone to be fired? First drive?
I'm not the biggest fan, so let's see how the first play turns out.
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I don’t think the Sumlin era (and Mazzone) starts until Tate is out.
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azcat49 wrote:I don’t think the Sumlin era (and Mazzone) starts until Tate is out.
I kind of feel the same way. It was hard to put a ton of blame on Mazzone last year because Tate's decision making as a QB is terrible. With the late start to their first year, the staff's first recruiting class was just thrown together so hard to blame them for not getting a QB to challenge Tate (assuming Doyle is just a non factor at this point). Year 2 they get Gunnell, I really hope he can step in next year (if not this year) and put together a nice run as QB.
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45-38, pretty realistic sim actually. Nice find Greg
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I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
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ESPN tonight had a small segment about Dick Tomey on Sportscenter regarding the game Saturday. Extremely cool and completely unexpected
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btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
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The closer we get to game time the more I'm thinking we're going to boat race these guys.
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whatisee wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
I am going to throw my foam brick at the TV if the Cats rush 3 and put 8 back in coverage on 3rd and long.

I don't know if Sumlin is a huge stats guy like Miller, but IIRC Cats were near last in the PAC on stopping 3rd and long.
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whatisee wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
I am absolutely ready for this if true. About time we started creeping back towards the swarm..
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whatisee wrote:
btfd16 wrote:I am terrified of this game and Cole McDonald.
SMH send our LB 's at him all game long. Our strength this year will be the D...watch
I will kiss you if we switch it up and send everyone. Hope so!
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azgreg wrote:The closer we get to game time the more I'm thinking we're going to boat race these guys.
About 8 guys were walking the streets at 9pm last night in Waikiki. I wish they would have been studying their play book instead but cant blame them. Go Cats
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So much to unpack in this post

Machina casually mentioning this so we realize he's a *good fan* and is in Hawaii for the game.

Him yet again dictating what other people should be doing with their private free time 45 hours before the game with his aw shucks babe in the woods phrasing.

His little cheer at the end that is a punctuation to lazily wash over the previous garbage.
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scumdevils86 wrote:So much to unpack in this post

Machina casually mentioning this so we realize he's a *good fan* and is in Hawaii for the game.

Him yet again dictating what other people should be doing with their private free time 45 hours before the game with his aw shucks babe in the woods phrasing.

His little cheer at the end that is a punctuation to lazily wash over the previous garbage.
I have said for years I would be here.

Your obsession with me know no limits. Pathetic. Get some help slugger
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Irish27 wrote:I am going to buy one, https://positivecoach.org/events/coach- ... nt-support" target="_blank

Good catch Irish. I am on board for one as well
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Those are pretty cool.
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Hey POM, need help with the game thread?
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Two of the worst defenses in college football on full display in this one. Should be lots of scoring. I think we will see Tate continue to struggle this season. I've said all along he's not a quarterback. I predict by game 3 or 4 he won't even be starting. Honestly I think McDonald is much more talented as a passer. Conventional wisdom has the Cats winning. That's what makes me skeptical. Hawaii 45 UA 38 sounds about right.
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I bet you're tons of fun at parties C.O.
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Game Thread is up.
It's long past time to bring this back to the court, let's do it with a small update:

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Some late money coming in on Hawaii. Line down to -10.5.
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azgreg wrote:Current line is Arizona -11 with the O/U at 70.5.
This feels like a game we lose. I'm sure part of that is that I feel like the life of an Arizona football fan is waiting for the disappointment to start, but away game, Hawaii, season opener...
It still does.
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Captain Obvious wrote:Two of the worst defenses in college football on full display in this one. Should be lots of scoring. I think we will see Tate continue to struggle this season. I've said all along he's not a quarterback. I predict by game 3 or 4 he won't even be starting. Honestly I think McDonald is much more talented as a passer. Conventional wisdom has the Cats winning. That's what makes me skeptical. Hawaii 45 UA 38 sounds about right.
Exact prediction. Wow.
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Carcassdragger wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Carcassdragger wrote:
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Carcassdragger wrote:Hawaii has 17 returning starters. Long night for us. Hawaii by a touchdown.
How many of those returners starters do you think would start for Arizona?
I would think most of em since they beat us soundly last year.
Wanna try that again?
Yeah I think so. Certainly they have some athletes and they are opening up at home.

The team from Arizona that played Houston last year would be hard pressed to beat anybody.

Again, Hawaii by 7. Hope I'm very wrong.
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Someone smarter would've ran out of bounds before the clock ran out or at least followed his blocker right in front of him instead of cutting away from his blocker.
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That the curse of Arizona athletics...decent but dumb players.
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IrishAzCat wrote:Image
Once Tate passed the LOS his WRs should have came out and blocked for him especially the trailing guys who caught up to Tate.

Tate saw the end zone, and that's all he saw.
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To bad he was hit while his body was turning. A little more square with the end line and probably would have been hit into the endzone.
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The "go for 2" debate would have been pretty interesting if Tate made it. Although I am pretty sure Sumlin would have had the PAT kicked and go into OT since the UA had momentum. The UH coach would have gone for 2 though since the UA couldn't stop anyone.
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Really sucks but beat Texas Tech and it is all good
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If we hadn't burned a timeout on the 4th attempt for that late FG, there would have (theoretically) been about 25-30 seconds left after that final play.
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ChooChooCat wrote:
IrishAzCat wrote:Image
Someone smarter would've ran out of bounds before the clock ran out or at least followed his blocker right in front of him instead of cutting away from his blocker.
You mean someone who knows to throw the ball away instead of running out for a loss? haha
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