let's talk '21

[U.P. Zona Fan]

If we miss out on Tyty and decide to go with a project like Pelle or a career college role player like Aaron Cook to run the point then my projections for the season go way down and we are looking more like a bubble team.

Regardless, you don't really know what you're going to get in a top-rated freshman point guard. At the expense of immediate hopes for a team, I like what developing point guards bring to a program. And I say that with an eye toward today's game, not the past.

I agree, and we have room for both a top rated freshman and a PG to develop.

I think I mean to say something different than that. I'm referring to a certain level of point guard won't transfer here to develop in practice while TyTy runs the floor during games. In that sense, you really can't have both, and I'd rather develop what I call a real college point guard than give the keys to an NBA-bound one-and-done point guard (Suggs aside) who jets after a season of getting outplayed by real college point guards. While I'm an ignorant fan wasting words on a message board while CTL has things under control, this is the hill I'll die on as an ignorant message board poster. It's all I talk about. Even to the door when I'm on the toilet.

My best rants about Arizona basketball are directed toward the bathroom door while I'm on the toilet, I guess I could be considered a "water closet" wildcats fan.

[Postmaster]

Spiff,
When did the tiger enter the transfer portal to join with Jason Statham ?

[gronk4heisman]

Crickets....

We have four available scholarships, I would think there would be some chatter out there about guys we are at least pursuing. All I have seen is Tyty and hearsay about Kaluma and Aaron Cook. I am not this patient, you are killing me Tommy!

Choo give us an update, are there additional bodies we are in on? Maybe some overseas guys?

[BeardownZonaZona]

I've heard good things on the Kaluma front. His family is also very private so they don't talk with recruiting sites often and don't like to give information, but I've heard getting Benson means we have a really good chance at getting Kaluma. Us and San Diego State will probably be the front runners because his brother goes there (Adam Seiko). As for Washington, I fully expect him to announce his decision on the 9th, he's playing in the only invitational this year and it's on that date and will be televised. I expect this because today is the last day of April and it's obvious he deserves some lead up to his decision as he's an elite recruit. Few people I know have told me that there is a European prospect involved, couldn't tell you who or what position, I'd have to assume guard as we have little depth there. As for the fourth spot, no clue. I'm guessing he takes a project type guy that he thinks fits for that 4th spot. Question is, if we get Kaluma, does Koloko or Brown leave?

Edit:
The Iverson Classic is the 7th-8th. Not the 9th. I'd take a guess and bet we hear something the 8th

[Spaceman Spiff]

Spiff,
When did the tiger enter the transfer portal to join with Jason Statham ?

I'm so confused.

[RondaeShimmy]

Kentucky could get seriously involved again for tyty?

Adam Miller also deciding Saturday, likely to be Kentucky.

Lloyd should go after Hickman also.

[gronk4heisman]

Kentucky could get seriously involved again for tyty?

Adam Miller also deciding Saturday, likely to be Kentucky

I think the bigger thing is we could get seriously involved with Hickman. We were in his finalists before and he has a connection to JET. I think this could be really good for us, but may be getting ahead of myself.

[YoDeFoe]

Hickman and TyTy??

[BeardownZonaZona]

Either lol. We need a pg. Bad

[gronk4heisman]

It would be a one or the other I would think. Although I think we have a spot for both of them to start with Ben at the 3 if they did come with our current makeup. It is good to split your eggs up instead of having them all in the Tyty basket.

[RondaeShimmy]

If Tyty doesn't go to the G-League, he's more likely to decide pretty soon.

If Tyty goes elsewhere, go all out on Hickman. Who'll probably take a while longer to decide.

Kansas is in the same spot as Arizona I would think.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Kentucky could get seriously involved again for tyty?

Adam Miller also deciding Saturday, likely to be Kentucky.

Lloyd should go after Hickman also.

It's a double edged sword. Maybe we could go after Hickman, but maybe Hickman leaving KY gives Tyty the role he wants at Kentucky.

I thought Adam Miller was supposed to be Sean Miller as primary recruiter and as such, we didn't have much chance after the coaching change.

If Miller goes Kentucky, it probably leaves us, Kansas and the G League for Tyty. Hickman and Tyty are so similar, I have trouble seeing both with Kerr in the mix.

[BeardownZonaZona]

Wasn't Hickman leaning Kansas til Kentucky offered? I think we're about to get hosed

[gronk4heisman]

Worst case, we get Tyty. Kansas gets Hickman. Then Tyty decides to go to the G League.

[BeardownZonaZona]

Worst case is Hickman to Kansas and Tyty to G league lol

[gronk4heisman]

Wasn't Hickman leaning Kansas til Kentucky offered? I think we're about to get hosed

I know Hickman was teammates with Nowell. Maybe the Miller contract status scared him away from coming here originally? Purely speculation.

[ChooChooCat]

Wasn't Hickman leaning Kansas til Kentucky offered? I think we're about to get hosed

Kentucky is after like 37284638 transfer PGs, that’s what spawned this. If Hickman ends up with KU, how would that hose us?

[RondaeShimmy]

Kentucky was going hard after Minnesota PG transfer Marcus Carr and others with Hickman committed.

Hickman and Tyty know each other, and Hickman was recruiting Tyty to join him at Kentucky.

https://kentuckysportsradio.com/basketb ... teammates/

[gronk4heisman]

Kentucky was going hard after Minnesota PG transfer Marcus Carr and others with Hickman committed.

Hickman and Tyty know each other, and Hickman was recruiting Tyty to join him at Kentucky.

https://kentuckysportsradio.com/basketb ... teammates/

Hickman was recruiting Tyty to Kentucky. How hilarious and (un Arizona luck) would it be for Tyty to end up recruiting Hickman to Arizona?

[BeardownZonaZona]

Wasn't Hickman leaning Kansas til Kentucky offered? I think we're about to get hosed

Kentucky is after like 37284638 transfer PGs, that’s what spawned this. If Hickman ends up with KU, how would that hose us?

Just thought at first it opened the door for Tyty to come to Kentucky. You're probably right though. Probably got one of the big name transfers to give them a silent commit and that got Hickman to leave

[gronk4heisman]

Wasn't Hickman leaning Kansas til Kentucky offered? I think we're about to get hosed

Kentucky is after like 37284638 transfer PGs, that’s what spawned this. If Hickman ends up with KU, how would that hose us?

Just thought at first it opened the door for Tyty to come to Kentucky. You're probably right though. Probably got one of the big name transfers to give them a silent commit and that got Hickman to leave

Fairly certain Adam Miller is committing to there tomorrow. Also, I do not think Mintz has ruled out coming back and they also are likely adding Iowa's PG and already added Davidsons CG.

[BeardownZonaZona]

Adam Miller to LSU. Just got a crystal ball and they have been in it all along

[Chicat]

Does LSU still have Will Wade coaching? Someone remind me...

[Spaceman Spiff]

Does LSU still have Will Wade coaching? Someone remind me...

They made him a strong-ass offer to extend contract, so yes.

[gronk4heisman]

I believe Wade signed an extension which gave the University the ability to fire him without cause if they receive an NOA, which somehow I do not think they have received one yet. LSU must have some good lobbyists in the NCAA office who decided to take some time off working to get them to turn the other cheek on football rule "bending" to get them to do the same for basketball.

Whenever a good basketball player chooses LSU not from Louisiana I instantly assume the price was right.

[SCCats]

Whenever a good basketball player chooses LSU not from Louisiana I instantly assume the price was right.

And that’s how they’ll always be perceived as long as Wade’s there.

This year, next year, five years from now: cheaters.

[azcat49]

Has the halo fallen from coach Cals head? Kentucky was exposed last year and talent alone won’t get them back on top it seems

[ChooChooCat]

Fwiw Tyty and Nolan have discussed playing together. Not trying to get hopes up, but that’s something very much on the table.

[RondaeShimmy]

Has the halo fallen from coach Cals head? Kentucky was exposed last year and talent alone won’t get them back on top it seems

Maybe he should give up on west coast recruits.

[gronk4heisman]

Has the halo fallen from coach Cals head? Kentucky was exposed last year and talent alone won’t get them back on top it seems

Maybe he should give up on west coast recruits.

Stay the fuck out of Malibu, Calipari (and the rest of the west coast)

[Chicat]

Whenever a good basketball player chooses LSU not from Louisiana I instantly assume the price was right.

And that’s how they’ll always be perceived as long as Wade’s there.

This year, next year, five years from now: cheaters.

Hasn’t seemed to have affected their recruiting.

[ChooChooCat]

Whenever a good basketball player chooses LSU not from Louisiana I instantly assume the price was right.

And that’s how they’ll always be perceived as long as Wade’s there.

This year, next year, five years from now: cheaters.

Hasn’t seemed to have affected their recruiting.

The money we’ll hasn’t dried up.

[YoDeFoe]

Fwiw Tyty and Nolan have discussed playing together. Not trying to get hopes up, but that’s something very much on the table.

TyTy and Nolan

Speak it into existence, y'all

[Chicat]

Whenever a good basketball player chooses LSU not from Louisiana I instantly assume the price was right.

And that’s how they’ll always be perceived as long as Wade’s there.

This year, next year, five years from now: cheaters.

Hasn’t seemed to have affected their recruiting.

The money we’ll hasn’t dried up.

If it ain’t broke...

[SCCats]

Whenever a good basketball player chooses LSU not from Louisiana I instantly assume the price was right.

And that’s how they’ll always be perceived as long as Wade’s there.

This year, next year, five years from now: cheaters.

Hasn’t seemed to have affected their recruiting.

And it might not.

But it will effect their reputation. Similarly, any success they ever might have will be met with “cheaters.”

[Chicat]

Everyone knows Kentucky cheats. Please someone wake me up when that perception means fuck all to them.

[RondaeShimmy]

Fwiw Tyty and Nolan have discussed playing together. Not trying to get hopes up, but that’s something very much on the table.

TyTy and Nolan

Speak it into existence, y'all

That would mean just ok PG depth.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Whenever a good basketball player chooses LSU not from Louisiana I instantly assume the price was right.

And that’s how they’ll always be perceived as long as Wade’s there.

This year, next year, five years from now: cheaters.

Hasn’t seemed to have affected their recruiting.

And it might not.

But it will effect their reputation. Similarly, any success they ever might have will be met with “cheaters.”

Maybe by people who don't understand that logic applies to all CBB programs.

LSU is exhibit 1 for how there doesn't need to be drama around a coach after the FBI scandal. Wade got directly implicated on a national scale. He made the tourney this year, he's still recruiting well, his job is safe and the fanbase likes him.

Unless you have BobRob mishandling stuff, it's simple to go dark and keep on rolling.

BTW, LSU got Tari Eason and if they get Adam Miller too...that is a bumper crop of talent from the portal. Miller and Eason are scary on D, plus two other solid transfers from Mizzou and SJSU.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Everyone knows Kentucky cheats. Please someone wake me up when that perception means fuck all to them.

[dmjcat]

Everyone knows Kentucky cheats. Please someone wake me up when that perception means fuck all to them.

Football coaches have always been a well of wisdom. Other famous quotes regarding cheating:

“I don’t want to win enough to be placed on NCAA probation, I just want to win enough to warrant an investigation.”

— Bob Devaney, Nebraska

“At Georgia Southern, we don’t cheat. That costs money and we don’t have any.”

— Erk Russell, Georgia Southern

[Spaceman Spiff]

Everyone knows Kentucky cheats. Please someone wake me up when that perception means fuck all to them.

Football coaches have always been a well of wisdom. Other famous quotes regarding cheating:

“I don’t want to win enough to be placed on NCAA probation, I just want to win enough to warrant an investigation.”

— Bob Devaney, Nebraska

“At Georgia Southern, we don’t cheat. That costs money and we don’t have any.”

— Erk Russell, Georgia Southern

You forgot the GOAT NCAA cheating quote:

"The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky they're going to give Cleveland State another year of probation."

Jerry Tarkanian

[SCCats]

It’s the still loyal to Sean Miller duo!

“Who cares if we are known by all as cheaters, called as such wherever we go AND don’t get results! That’s Arizona basketball!!”

[Spaceman Spiff]

It’s the still loyal to Sean Miller duo!

“Who cares if we are known by all as cheaters, called as such wherever we go AND don’t get results! That’s Arizona basketball!!”

Ain't but one person talking about Sean Miller here.

[Chicat]

It’s the still loyal to Sean Miller duo!

“Who cares if we are known by all as cheaters, called as such wherever we go AND don’t get results! That’s Arizona basketball!!”

Gosh I wished that I too lived in the land of fairytale make believe where every single team isn’t doing the exact same stuff you’re clutching your pearls at the thought of Sean Miller doing.

[Spaceman Spiff]

It’s the still loyal to Sean Miller duo!

“Who cares if we are known by all as cheaters, called as such wherever we go AND don’t get results! That’s Arizona basketball!!”

Gosh I wished that I too lived in the land of fairytale make believe where every single team isn’t doing the exact same stuff you’re clutching your pearls at the thought of Sean Miller doing.

Can I drop a standard anti-NCAA hypocrisy rant?

When SCCats refers to cheating allegations, he means we might have allowed a young, black man to get paid for being really talented. That's the public perception.

If we'd simply allowed the money generated by the talents of that young, black man go to an old white administrator like Mark Emmert or Bobby Robbins, we wouldn't be cheating, we'd be virtuous under NCAA rules.

Because that's the NCAA way. It's about the student-athaletes...until it's time for profits.

https://youtu.be/61TMtH3Qw4s

[IndianaZonaFan]

If Tommy can get Tyty and Hickman...he’s a witch.

If that somehow happens...does Kerr start over one of them? Or come off the bench?

[ChooChooCat]

If Tommy can get Tyty and Hickman...he’s a witch.

If that somehow happens...does Kerr start over one of them? Or come off the bench?

I don't think it happens.

[Beachcat97]

If Tommy can get Tyty and Hickman...he’s a witch.

If that somehow happens...does Kerr start over one of them? Or come off the bench?

I don't think it happens.

April came and went. No Tyty news. Does this getting dragged out longer bode poorly for us, Choo, or is the timeline not really a factor?

I'm not gonna hold my breath whatsoever for Hickman. Don't think he's considering AZ.

[ChooChooCat]

If Tommy can get Tyty and Hickman...he’s a witch.

If that somehow happens...does Kerr start over one of them? Or come off the bench?

I don't think it happens.

April came and went. No Tyty news. Does this getting dragged out longer bode poorly for us, Choo, or is the timeline not really a factor?

I'm not gonna hold my breath whatsoever for Hickman. Don't think he's considering AZ.

Timeline isn't a factor. Some things can occur during that time that could help Arizona or could hurt Arizona though.

[Beachcat97]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... anticleers

Another top flight transfer PG off the board.