Honestly I don't see him to develop into anything more than a role player by year three or four. Was never too high on Dezonie
The 2021-2022 Season Thread
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I said what I said and I mean it.
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Sounds more like a Dylan Smith type of guy...BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:55 am I saw one recruiting analyst put it pretty well. He's not the most athletic, but he's athletic enough. Not an elite ball handler, but he's good enough. Not an elite shooter, but he's good enough. Not an elite defender, but he's good enough. For him to contribute he's going to have to develop one of his skills a lot
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I agree with that assessment, but in a more positive way. I can think of worse profiles for a backup guard than solid in every area.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:55 am I saw one recruiting analyst put it pretty well. He's not the most athletic, but he's athletic enough. Not an elite ball handler, but he's good enough. Not an elite shooter, but he's good enough. Not an elite defender, but he's good enough. For him to contribute he's going to have to develop one of his skills a lot
That's how I saw Dezonie, too, as a guy who could join the rotation as a soph and give you 10-18 mpg for those last 3 years. Never a star, but the guy you hope is a rock solid 6th/7th man as an upperclassman.
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In no version of this world would I claim Dylan Smith's ballhandling or penetration and finish game were "good enough."MountainCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:17 amSounds more like a Dylan Smith type of guy...BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:55 am I saw one recruiting analyst put it pretty well. He's not the most athletic, but he's athletic enough. Not an elite ball handler, but he's good enough. Not an elite shooter, but he's good enough. Not an elite defender, but he's good enough. For him to contribute he's going to have to develop one of his skills a lot
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It's not what we think, it's what they player thinks his potential is regardless of outcome.Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:19 amIn no version of this world would I claim Dylan Smith's ballhandling or penetration and finish game were "good enough."MountainCat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:17 amSounds more like a Dylan Smith type of guy...BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:55 am I saw one recruiting analyst put it pretty well. He's not the most athletic, but he's athletic enough. Not an elite ball handler, but he's good enough. Not an elite shooter, but he's good enough. Not an elite defender, but he's good enough. For him to contribute he's going to have to develop one of his skills a lot
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I was referring to the P12 tourney.U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:02 amYou guys get game tickets yet? Guessing you are talking about the MGM early season tourney.
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Jordan Brown is off the board now. Really need to go after Kaluma now. We currently have 7 players on the roster (8 if you count Tubelis 2).
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I would love to know why?
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If I had to guess it probably was from him attending a few practices with Tommy and either believing it was a bad fit from a system or personality stand point. Free transfers this year so why not put his name in the portal with the other 1500 guys.
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I think this is a good sign for Kaluma. I thought if we got Arthur anyways that'd it would result in a post player leaving
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That's what I am hoping for too. I liked JB but it looks like Kaluma is more of a beast
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Kaluma is a great defender. Brown was kinda a liability on defense. Doesn't bring the offensive game Brown brings, but he can guard multiple positions and a good rebounder. Could honestly be an upgrade if it happens
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https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/b ... evaluation
Good write up and video
Good write up and video
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Has there been *any* indication whatsoever that Kaluma is in play for AZ? Because I haven't anywhere seen AZ among the schools chasing him.
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It won't change much off the bat. Tubelis is still the 4 and should get the lion's share of the minutes. JB would have backed him up, Kaluma would be the same.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:06 pm I think this is a good sign for Kaluma. I thought if we got Arthur anyways that'd it would result in a post player leaving
JB made big strides as a rebounder and defender and is the better player right now.
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Who is baby Shack?
Is that the Gonzaga guy or Kaluma?
Is that the Gonzaga guy or Kaluma?
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Brown like Jeter was a 4 coming out of HS, but they're more 5s in today's game. You just can't play them at the 4 in heavy minutes.
It doesn't really make sense to have 3 centers on roster. Brown is a decent spell 4 but he doesn't have the quickness or skills to play a ton there.
He's obviously better than Ballo, so hopefully this is for Kaluma and/or he knew he wouldn't be a fit in the scheme.
It doesn't really make sense to have 3 centers on roster. Brown is a decent spell 4 but he doesn't have the quickness or skills to play a ton there.
He's obviously better than Ballo, so hopefully this is for Kaluma and/or he knew he wouldn't be a fit in the scheme.
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Just want to note that this past season, which has flown largely under the radar due to COVID, Kaluma has showed a lot of growth in his offensive game: he has ball handling skills already, he's been a willing facilitator for his high school team, and he is taking (and making) threes. The old scouting report that he's a limited offensive prospect who provides energy and length on defense is out of date. Still growth to be had, but he's showing promise.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:18 pm Kaluma is a great defender. Brown was kinda a liability on defense. Doesn't bring the offensive game Brown brings, but he can guard multiple positions and a good rebounder. Could honestly be an upgrade if it happens
He avg'd 25 & 10 this past season.
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Wow. He was already a great prospect. He could be really good for usYoDeFoe wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:03 pmJust want to note that this past season, which has flown largely under the radar due to COVID, Kaluma has showed a lot of growth in his offensive game: he has ball handling skills already, he's been a willing facilitator for his high school team, and he is taking (and making) threes. The old scouting report that he's a limited offensive prospect who provides energy and length on defense is out of date. Still growth to be had, but he's showing promise.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:18 pm Kaluma is a great defender. Brown was kinda a liability on defense. Doesn't bring the offensive game Brown brings, but he can guard multiple positions and a good rebounder. Could honestly be an upgrade if it happens
He avg'd 25 & 10 this past season.
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I love the invite.
But I'm confused by the rest of the tweet. Does this guy have some insight into Tommy's line-up decisions, which somehow predate Tommy setting a roster? What is Dalen's proper position?
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I think that's just a guy who knows Arizona got a new coach talking about stuff.
Like you said, we have a lot of open roster spots. It sort of defies belief Terry knows the parameters of his new role when no one knows the parameters of who will surround him.
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Yeah, that's just something people include in their tweets to feel better about themselves.
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I'd love to know what this guy thinks Terry's proper position is, because wasn't he listed as a PG coming out of high school? Does he think that's where Tommy Boy is going to play him?
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Downwards facing dog. Dude thinks Terry will benefit from more ankle mobility.
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Didn't see anyone make it official...
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I'll take it. With few exceptions, I'm so much more comfortable with this kind of player than a highly rated incoming freshman point guard.
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This kid isn't a point guard tho?Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:33 am I'll take it. With few exceptions, I'm so much more comfortable with this kind of player than a highly rated incoming freshman point guard.
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Can't wait to find out as well, because I think he should see some minutes at the 4 because if his passing ability. Can use him in the PNR as a shirt roll man, feeding cutters from the high post, ect. Where he plays full time though should be fun the see. He can play all over the floor and in multiple roles. Just needs to fill out that frame first.
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Am I putting too much stock in the reminder that Kerr is actually pg? If not then I don't know how the pieces fit together with Kerr and Pelle.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:38 amThis kid isn't a point guard tho?Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:33 am I'll take it. With few exceptions, I'm so much more comfortable with this kind of player than a highly rated incoming freshman point guard.
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Ideally Kerr is backing up the 1 and the 2.Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:51 pmAm I putting too much stock in the reminder that Kerr is actually pg? If not then I don't know how the pieces fit together with Kerr and Pelle.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:38 amThis kid isn't a point guard tho?Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:33 am I'll take it. With few exceptions, I'm so much more comfortable with this kind of player than a highly rated incoming freshman point guard.
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I think Pelle or nowell takes the starting 2, probably Pelle. We get a pg via transfer portal or Europe to start. And Kerr is our super sixth man who is the primary ball handler and best shooter off the bench. That'd be the best situation in my opiniongronk4heisman wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:55 pmIdeally Kerr is backing up the 1 and the 2.Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:51 pmAm I putting too much stock in the reminder that Kerr is actually pg? If not then I don't know how the pieces fit together with Kerr and Pelle.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:38 amThis kid isn't a point guard tho?Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:33 am I'll take it. With few exceptions, I'm so much more comfortable with this kind of player than a highly rated incoming freshman point guard.
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I don't doubt your ideal vision, but the part I can't square is a presumptive starter whose head coach gets fired, and then he enters the transfer portal, and then decides to return for a new coach and come off the bench behind incoming transfers.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:57 pmI think Pelle or nowell takes the starting 2, probably Pelle. We get a pg via transfer portal or Europe to start. And Kerr is our super sixth man who is the primary ball handler and best shooter off the bench. That'd be the best situation in my opiniongronk4heisman wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:55 pmIdeally Kerr is backing up the 1 and the 2.Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:51 pmAm I putting too much stock in the reminder that Kerr is actually pg? If not then I don't know how the pieces fit together with Kerr and Pelle.BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:38 amThis kid isn't a point guard tho?Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:33 am I'll take it. With few exceptions, I'm so much more comfortable with this kind of player than a highly rated incoming freshman point guard.
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I was wondering the same thing. Look at what happened to Baker once he lost his starting position. Bailed out as soon as he could.Longhorned wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 2:15 pm I don't doubt your ideal vision, but the part I can't square is a presumptive starter whose head coach gets fired, and then he enters the transfer portal, and then decides to return for a new coach and come off the bench behind incoming transfers.
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Kerr can play either guard spot. Terry can play either guard spot. Larsson can play either guard spot.
Not sure why any of that is in question.
Not sure why any of that is in question.
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Kerr already jumped in portal once
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Is Kerr our projected starter at PG... or are we still counting on a transfer to start at PG?
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For me, it's a question if we're still looking for a starting point guard transfer, who by definition will come in and play 32-36 mpg. If so, then we have Kerr signing up to come off the bench and have lamb's share of 44-48 mpg with Pelle. He could be looking at 15 minutes a game. It's just strange in a world where quality players transfer to meet their own requirements for roles and minutes, and more surprising when said player's coach got fired.
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Transfer or euro prospect at the 1 likely. Lloyd will be patient. Won't take just any one guard. Going to wait for the right oneAlieberman wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 4:50 pm Is Kerr our projected starter at PG... or are we still counting on a transfer to start at PG?
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We need a pure PG.
It’s fine that we have others who can spot at the 1 but I fully expect CTL to bring in a starting PG before this roster is finalized.
I will be hugely disappointed if we have to start anyone on our current roster at the 1.
It’s fine that we have others who can spot at the 1 but I fully expect CTL to bring in a starting PG before this roster is finalized.
I will be hugely disappointed if we have to start anyone on our current roster at the 1.
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Does the PG situation inhibit recruiting?
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Arizona plans to add another PG, but you guys are underestimating Kerr way too much here in this regard.
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I get that we won’t see it as a day one starting lineup, but I’m very much looking forward to watching Kerr along with Pelle and Mathurin across the back - that’s a lot of playmaking and shooting.ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:55 pm Arizona plans to add another PG, but you guys are underestimating Kerr way too much here in this regard.
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Bennett Davidson type?BeardownZonaZona wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:18 pm Kaluma is a great defender. Brown was kinda a liability on defense. Doesn't bring the offensive game Brown brings, but he can guard multiple positions and a good rebounder. Could honestly be an upgrade if it happens
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Kerr is going to enter the transfer portal again if he reads this thread.
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Why? Because a bunch of idiot posters?
Kerr is starting next year. For fucks sake he stared last year.
He knows how good he is. So does Lloyd. So will you, if you don’t know already.
So much stupid here.
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I have never thought anything other than he would start. It took Tubelis about 8 games to get his footing. Kerr only played that many.
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Most confusing thread ever. I'm looking at the same posts you all are and I literally have no idea what some of you are talking about. Now people don't know Kerr was a starter? And that he's good? Who here is stupid about that? One of the few "accomplishments" we all share is having watched last year's games, and having heard out Miller on his high expectations for Kerr in year 2.