2021 Season Thread

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:57 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:45 pm
Merkin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:55 am 2.5 per Vegas. Get your bets in.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/ ... HT-DIouGr8
sometimes, as a non-betting person, i see a vegas line where i think to myself "hey, that might be worth throwing money at"....
and then i remember that there's a reason vegas makes so much money, and instead I keep my wallet closed and spend my money on things like groceries, electricity, etc.

Same

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:13 pm

Did Sumlin and RR have these off season camps as well?

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:01 am

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:08 pm

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:02 pm

1 win is an improvement.

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:12 pm

I really don't think he needs to tamp down expectations of more than 5 or 6 wins, that's optimistic enough.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:02 pm

If we win more than 4 games, and I am lured in enough to pay for a tv service to watch more than 4 games...with a 1 to 4 month old baby at home...this season will be a resounding success.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:43 pm

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:55 pm

I thought the limits were 25/85? How did they get 90?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:56 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:55 pm I thought the limits were 25/85? How did they get 90?

If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:27 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:55 pm I thought the limits were 25/85? How did they get 90?

Covid super seniors.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:22 am

...and its started. We're fucked.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:26 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:22 am ...and its started. We're fucked.

What?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:32 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:26 pm
Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:22 am ...and its started. We're fucked.
What?

I think he's talking about players being compensated and that we can't compete.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:08 pm

So what will be different then? Lol. Y'all stress too much about us being good at football. Maybe we will someday but the sky sure isn't falling because we can't "compete".

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:44 pm

If I’m a college player looking to get endorsement money, I’d rather be in Tucson where there’s an abundance of medium-sized businesses and no pro sports teams, than somewhere like LA where there are a million people who are way more famous than a college athlete.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:04 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:44 pm If I’m a college player looking to get endorsement money, I’d rather be in Tucson where there’s an abundance of medium-sized businesses and no pro sports teams, than somewhere like LA where there are a million people who are way more famous than a college athlete.

That's my thought. Tucson is no LA but it's no podunk town and has plenty of millionaire businesses looking to capitalize on marketing here with the only game in town.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:28 pm

Hope you guys are right. I was thinking that, now that the genie is out of the bottle, we're never going to be able to compete with the opportunities that being a star player at somewhere like USC or UCLA would provide.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:02 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:11 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:27 pm

I swear I won’t make any menstruation jokes if we make the Redbox Bowl next year.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:08 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:27 pm I swear I won’t make any menstruation jokes if we make the Redbox Bowl next year.

We land all (3) #juicecounty kids out of Servite you won’t have to worry about that.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:47 pm

Sid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:08 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:27 pm I swear I won’t make any menstruation jokes if we make the Redbox Bowl next year.
We land all (3) #juicecounty kids out of Servite you won’t have to worry about that.

Still necessary to have an O line that can block and a D that can make a stop once in a while.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:48 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:47 pm
Sid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:08 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:27 pm I swear I won’t make any menstruation jokes if we make the Redbox Bowl next year.
We land all (3) #juicecounty kids out of Servite you won’t have to worry about that.
Still necessary to have an O line that can block and a D that can make a stop once in a while.

I agree completely. Perhaps Jedd’s happy cactus tweet just 1 hour ago will address some of our concerns???

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:14 pm

I think we have two lineman so far and that kid from Colorado looks like he might join us and he said he would make his decision in late August so this might be at another position.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:10 am

also

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:20 am

Going into the season yeah, we probably should be picked last in the south and be considered the worst team along with OSU

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:31 pm

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:59 pm

Well that's really good. Calling out the 8 players by count. Keep the pressure on.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:39 pm

We are going to beat BYU. It will be electric snd they have no idea on what is coming

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:43 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:39 pm We are going to beat BYU. It will be electric snd they have no idea on what is coming

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:13 am

azcat49 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:39 pm We are going to beat BYU. It will be electric snd they have no idea on what is coming

Love your enthusiasm and high hopes, but not seeing it. If I did, I'd already have tix for Vegas.

I'm concerned about Joiner. I think he can be a potent weapon for us this year. Hoping he recovers quickly.

TheCatInTheHat · Post by **TheCatInTheHat** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:33 am

For any long-time Arizona fan, it's worth going to the game just to see what our team looks like. BYU will be solid. They lost their QB to the NFL, and their record last season was inflated by cupcakes who were willing to play them in the year of COVID. This year, their schedule swings way back in the other direction, so if we do happen to beat them, I'm sure we'll hear the predictable refrain that they somehow suddenly suck, but a lot of any drop-off for them will be schedule-driven. Both of our lines should be able to hang in there, certainly before any injuries hit during the course of the season. We'll have some element of surprise with new systems, but BYU will have continuity and depth. I don't particularly expect to win (although any Arizona fan who's held out for Guaranteed Win Night over our football history has managed to avoid a lot of contests)...but I do expect an entertaining game. It's pretty hard to expect that, in Game One, we can execute well enough to get full advantage out of some of our athletes, or that we can avoid a fair number of mistakes. But, we'll have a much better idea schematically of what the program is trying to get to. In any event, we'll be there. Hey...it's Vegas!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:37 am

I think my son and I are going to go. Even if we lose, we're in Vegas baby!

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:11 am

We are getting +7.5 on the early line which is a lock. This team will be frothing at the mouth abd with us running fewer plays I would bet the cats, the under and drop some on us on the money line. That is exactly what I plan to do and it will pay for my trip

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:00 am

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:38 pm

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:56 am

I don't hold out a lot of hope against BYU. Those guys will be 24 y/o playing against 19/20 y/o. What I'm interested in are our transfers and how they perform.

Carcassdragger · Post by **Carcassdragger** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:59 am

BYU is going to pound us.

I'd love to be wrong.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:04 am

Not a chance we get pounded IMO. Line is BYU -7.5 so Vegas thinks it will be close as well.

BYU has no film on us offensively. We will score twice in the first quarter before they adjust. Our defense will be better just from being more aggressive rather than reactive. I see good things in our first game

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:14 pm

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:56 pm

Irish27 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:14 pm

Excellent news.

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:04 pm

Carcassdragger wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:59 am BYU is going to pound us.

I'd love to be wrong.

Perhaps, but I won't predict anything based on the product Sucklin produced. This is the guy who destroyed Khalil Tate. He wouldn't have fired Marcel if he hadn't been forced to.
Even before the reinstatement of the Michigan stud linebacker. I believed we are going to field a good defense, and we won't be getting pounded like we used to.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:18 pm

Only person who destroyed Khalil Tate was Khalil Tate. You could see Sumlin and Mazzone yelling at Tate to run downfield during a pass attempt, and Tate would either throw the ball out of bounds, or more common run out of bounds losing a couple of yards. Tate wanted to be Peyton Manning instead of Cam Newton.

This year the defense is going to be better than the offense. Last time that was...

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:57 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:18 pm Only person who destroyed Khalil Tate was Khalil Tate. You could see Sumlin and Mazzone yelling at Tate to run downfield during a pass attempt, and Tate would either throw the ball out of bounds, or more common run out of bounds losing a couple of yards. Tate wanted to be Peyton Manning instead of Cam Newton.

This year the defense is going to be better than the offense. Last time that was...

One of the first things Bumlin said is he wanted Tate to be more of a passing QB. I honestly don't know, but I bet he would have had a better career If RR hadn't been canned.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:36 pm

Tate could have had an NFL career if he didn't insist on being a QB. Only UA offered him as that.

Since he ended up being pretty fragile, he would have been better off at a position where he didn't get hit so much, such as WR.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:40 pm

AV8RCAT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:56 pm
Irish27 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:14 pm

Excellent news.

I was really high on this kid and very disappointed when the transfer went sideways.

I’m really looking forward to seeing this defense and can’t wait for ball!

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:30 pm

We should be vastly improved on defense. Just the fact we will play at a slower tempo on offense should provide fewer yards given up per game although so think yards per play is a better indicator.

AV8RCAT · Post by **AV8RCAT** » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:25 pm

Sid wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:40 pm
AV8RCAT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:56 pm
Irish27 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:14 pm

Excellent news.
I was really high on this kid and very disappointed when the transfer went sideways.

I’m really looking forward to seeing this defense and can’t wait for ball!

For what it's worth, on P12 media day, Fisch said he thinks the defense will be "very good".

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:40 am

I doubt Jedd Lasso would say we are going to be watery dog shit.

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