The 2021-2022 Season Thread

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:12 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:50 pm The USC game against Stanford on Saturday got cancelled, maybe Andy Enfield has a little more back bone than Cronin. Would love to play them Sunday or Saturday.

Heck, I'd like to play them Saturday and Monday. Let's play an extra game vs. USC in lieu of our game at Pauley.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:48 pm

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:31 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:48 pm

Effing stud.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 pm

My biggest fear is that only 2 AZ starters get COVID and the PAC 12 finds that is the perfect time to play makeup games. UCLA already benefited by Riley being back and now they play Long Beach who they already played and beat this year. Your right. Arizona is do. If you listen Adia's press conference she said if teams had to forfeit they would come up with the players,

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:20 am

I cannot believe what is happening with this UCLA game. So now we have to go through weeks of practices without a game so UCLA can ramp up to play us and be totally ready and do it in crammed schedule. Only in the Pac 12 does this happen. Our conference is awful.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:36 am

Well I'm glad the conference is not making teams forfeit. Anyone can get this virus no matter how careful you are. I expect the conference to do some P12 tourney seating penalty if teams have not been able to make up their games. Like make them play in the play in round.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:07 pm

Going to get all the Karens all riled up.

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildca ... WrLy_nc2XM

The University of Arizona now requires the use of surgical or higher-grade (KN95, KF94 and N99) masks in all indoor spaces on UA's campus where it is not possible to socially distance.

That includes sporting events held at McKale Center, a spokesperson on the UA's COVID Ambassador Team Hotline confirmed Thursday.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:25 pm

So here is my thought. If Az. travels to LA this Saturday to play USC they will not be required to incur the expense for a second trip to play UCLA. It will either be paid by the league or will not be made up. I do not think the league would require Az. to incur the cost.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:30 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:07 pm Going to get all the Karens all riled up.

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildca ... WrLy_nc2XM

The University of Arizona now requires the use of surgical or higher-grade (KN95, KF94 and N99) masks in all indoor spaces on UA's campus where it is not possible to socially distance.

That includes sporting events held at McKale Center, a spokesperson on the UA's COVID Ambassador Team Hotline confirmed Thursday.

Karens do not get riled up. Karens are riled up.

Edit: being a Karen means you don't have to get ready to speak to the manager. You're born ready to speak to the manager.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:43 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:44 pm

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:48 pm

If is fucking baffling that we aren't playing USC and UCLA this week

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:50 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:43 pm

That doesn't seem like it is going to happen. If we can't get a game when both teams have an open date then how are we going to fit in 100 more games?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:11 pm

It’s almost like Larry Scott never left.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:23 pm

So am I understanding this correctly…. Any pac team coming off Covid protocol can just decide they aren’t ready to play even though they are cleared?

Or this only applies to UC schools?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:32 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:11 pm It’s almost like Larry Scott never left.

Kliavkoff has fucked this up royally.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:34 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:23 pm So am I understanding this correctly…. Any pac team coming off Covid protocol can just decide they aren’t ready to play even though they are cleared?

Or this only applies to UC schools?

The conference is trying to “protect” their top teams. So in other words if Stanford and Cal were available as make up games for us this weekend it would’ve been scheduled regardless how long each team has returned to practice. The conference thinks they’re being smart and in their “smartness” are going to fuck over Arizona scheduling wise in the future.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:47 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:34 pm
Alieberman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:23 pm So am I understanding this correctly…. Any pac team coming off Covid protocol can just decide they aren’t ready to play even though they are cleared?

Or this only applies to UC schools?
The conference is trying to “protect” their top teams. So in other words if Stanford and Cal were available as make up games for us this weekend it would’ve been scheduled regardless how long each team has returned to practice. The conference thinks they’re being smart and in their “smartness” are going to fuck over Arizona scheduling wise in the future.

This really is an awful awful precedent to set

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:52 pm

Alieberman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:47 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:34 pm
Alieberman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:23 pm So am I understanding this correctly…. Any pac team coming off Covid protocol can just decide they aren’t ready to play even though they are cleared?

Or this only applies to UC schools?
The conference is trying to “protect” their top teams. So in other words if Stanford and Cal were available as make up games for us this weekend it would’ve been scheduled regardless how long each team has returned to practice. The conference thinks they’re being smart and in their “smartness” are going to fuck over Arizona scheduling wise in the future.
This really is an awful awful precedent to set

Just wait until Arizona inevitably gets their own COVID shutdown.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:00 pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYW91R4PfBV/

kingkev228 - starting to like this team more than my team., oh no wait.. did i just say that lol

kkriisa - no easy buckets!

kingkev228's - yessir!!!!! bring that national chip home to Tucson sir!

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:03 pm

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:52 pm
Alieberman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:47 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:34 pm
Alieberman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:23 pm So am I understanding this correctly…. Any pac team coming off Covid protocol can just decide they aren’t ready to play even though they are cleared?

Or this only applies to UC schools?
The conference is trying to “protect” their top teams. So in other words if Stanford and Cal were available as make up games for us this weekend it would’ve been scheduled regardless how long each team has returned to practice. The conference thinks they’re being smart and in their “smartness” are going to fuck over Arizona scheduling wise in the future.
This really is an awful awful precedent to set
Just wait until Arizona inevitably gets their own COVID shutdown.

Oh I know... I've already talked about that.... it's when / not if

Which is why you get in whatever games you can with what 2 teams can play at any moment in time.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:19 pm

Can’t wait until we play 5 games in 8 days in the name of “student-athlete safety”.

My eyes might roll so far up into the back of my head that they never return.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:26 pm

I say we just do what the NBA is doing, but instead of signing random dudes to 10 day contracts for Covid relief, each team can bring back any former player from that school to fill out the rosters.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:41 pm

I imagine many of the athletes can handle that physically, pretty common for AAU teams to play 4 games in a weekend. I imagine many of the Euro U17 teams play a lot of games too.

But at least for AAU, college athletes are expected to play defense.

But then there's pesky thought that these are students first, then athletes.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:27 am

The quality of officiating might take a hit.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:37 am

Todays coronavirus cases in AZ just out..............14,888

Omicron is ripping through the AZ population. Only a matter of time before the UA BBall team gets hit.

After the UA is forced to pause for a couple of weeks and then returns, there is likely no way we will be able to complete the full schedule.

Here's my question for the PAC12 leadership. If the UA is unable to schedule two games against UCLA/USC (and can only play each team once) will we be forced to play the scheduled games in February (right now scheduled to be played in Tucson) in Los Angeles???

Will we receive the same deference from the conference leadership as did the LA schools??

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:38 am

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:27 am The quality of officiating might take a hit.

I might disagree with that.

If the conference is forced to use new officials (say high school refs) the quality might actually improve.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:52 am

It’s kinda crazy.
My wife and kid had last January.
Both got vaxed.
Both have it now.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:59 am

Postmaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:52 am It’s kinda crazy.
My wife and kid had last January.
Both got vaxed.
Both have it now.

IMNSHO, allowing fans in arenas during this Omicron surge is probably suicide for any team's schedule.

As a fully vaccinated fan, I would not attend.

Somehow, I hope we can limp through this period (it seems to maybe last only 4-6 weeks, hopefully), and still have a good end=of-season and post-season....

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:07 am

dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:37 am Todays coronavirus cases in AZ just out..............14,888

Omicron is ripping through the AZ population. Only a matter of time before the UA BBall team gets hit.

After the UA is forced to pause for a couple of weeks and then returns, there is likely no way we will be able to complete the full schedule.

Here's my question for the PAC12 leadership. If the UA is unable to schedule two games against UCLA/USC (and can only play each team once) will we be forced to play the scheduled games in February (right now scheduled to be played in Tucson) in Los Angeles???

Will we receive the same deference from the conference leadership as did the LA schools??

If the Feb games in Tucson end up being played on the scheduled dates, there is no chance they move the location. And Arizona should never agree to move it. Now if they get postponed, and we only have time to get in 1 meeting in, who knows? I would say wherever can have fans in attendance, which is more likely Tucson, but I assume the conference will favor the SoCal schools.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:09 am

I don't see how we are going to come close to completing a regular season. Omicron is still a couple weeks away from peaking in the US. Soon every game will be affected.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:21 am

Unpopular opinion-

If it is just a matter of time before omicron hits all of us.... it would be better for AZ basketball it happens sooner rather than later. (I am not advocating any team member to test positive)

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:41 am

Catintheheat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:09 am I don't see how we are going to come close to completing a regular season. Omicron is still a couple weeks away from peaking in the US. Soon every game will be affected.

The majority of Pac 12 teams have already had it run through their programs which puts them in a competitive advantage since they do not need to test for 90 days following, which runs through the NCAA tournament at this point. Based on that logic, I would assume the teams that already have had it (Stanford, Colorado, Oregon, USC, UCLA, ASU, UW off the top of my head) will not have to cancel any games going forward unless it was only a portion of their team that came down with it.

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:24 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:21 am Unpopular opinion-

If it is just a matter of time before omicron hits all of us.... it would be better for AZ basketball it happens sooner rather than later. (I am not advocating any team member to test positive)

I don't think this is that unpopular. Sure we don't what anyone to get sick, but COVID is not just going to go away, we are long past that point.

What might be a more unpopular opinion is that we need to stop worrying about cases in young, healthy individuals, like a college basketball team. Sure we don't want them to possibly pass it on to people that are more vulnerable, but if we continue on that path then there is just no end as it will always be a risk. Shooting for 0 risk is unfortunately unrealistic. Highly effective protection against severe disease is available to everyone, so it is time to hit the off-ramp on the currently endless path. Sorry if this is a little out there for this thread.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:27 am

I think we still need to try to flatten the curve because healthcare is not going to be able to treat everyone if covid goes wild. We need to slow transmission as much as possible

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:22 am

DrWildcat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:24 am
Alieberman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:21 am Unpopular opinion-

If it is just a matter of time before omicron hits all of us.... it would be better for AZ basketball it happens sooner rather than later. (I am not advocating any team member to test positive)
I don't think this is that unpopular. Sure we don't what anyone to get sick, but COVID is not just going to go away, we are long past that point.

What might be a more unpopular opinion is that we need to stop worrying about cases in young, healthy individuals, like a college basketball team. Sure we don't want them to possibly pass it on to people that are more vulnerable, but if we continue on that path then there is just no end as it will always be a risk. Shooting for 0 risk is unfortunately unrealistic. Highly effective protection against severe disease is available to everyone, so it is time to hit the off-ramp on the currently endless path. Sorry if this is a little out there for this thread.

totally agree with everything. And any notion of eradication at any point was unfounded. Virus going to virus. Was never just going away.

SabinoDrifter · Post by **SabinoDrifter** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:26 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:07 pm Going to get all the Karens all riled up.

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildca ... WrLy_nc2XM

The University of Arizona now requires the use of surgical or higher-grade (KN95, KF94 and N99) masks in all indoor spaces on UA's campus where it is not possible to socially distance.

That includes sporting events held at McKale Center, a spokesperson on the UA's COVID Ambassador Team Hotline confirmed Thursday.

I'm sure compliance with this change will be the same as compliance with actually wearing a mask inside McKale and will be strictly enforced!

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:06 pm

Might be more as you have to be admitted. Hopefully they have masks for the girls game tonight in case some have not heard.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:07 pm

TheCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:06 pm Might be more as you have to be admitted. Hopefully they have masks for the girls game tonight in case some have not heard.

Yes, they are passing out surgical masks for those that don't have them.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:27 pm

Certainly makes sense to supply folks if they don't have them then to just deny them entry and say sorry.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:41 pm

I feel like I haven’t seen a game in over a month…wtf Pac12?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:01 pm

It's clear the conference is protecting the LA schools at the expense of everyone else.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:18 pm

Right now it doesn't even feel like we are in the middle of basketball season.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:23 pm

Wait, UCLA is playing Cal today and not us? It’s not like they were already in NorCal last week so why didn’t they just stay home and play us after there little LBSU tune up?

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:21 pm

https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/2022/0 ... ce=twitter

Yes, thank you might PAC-12 gods for protecting USC. What an absolute joke.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm

I guess our next game will be the first round of the PAC-12 tourney?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:39 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm I guess our next game will be the first round of the PAC-12 tourney?

NCAA tourney

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:39 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 pm I guess our next game will be the first round of the PAC-12 tourney?

We’re gonna get fucked out of this whole mess. Guarantee it.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:02 pm

Is any team in the Pac-12 ... that hasn't shut down because of Covid.....missing more games than us?

So frustrating

TheCatInTheHat · Post by **TheCatInTheHat** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:02 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:07 pm Going to get all the Karens all riled up.

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildca ... WrLy_nc2XM

The University of Arizona now requires the use of surgical or higher-grade (KN95, KF94 and N99) masks in all indoor spaces on UA's campus where it is not possible to socially distance.

That includes sporting events held at McKale Center, a spokesperson on the UA's COVID Ambassador Team Hotline confirmed Thursday.

Okay, for those going to McKale, or the plays at Centennial Hall, here's some further word. Robbins made his decree from Mount Horeb on the caliber of masks required. But, per somebody involved in event management at the U, they're just requiring (and handing out) the routine blue single-use masks you see everywhere. (Ironically made in China.) It's possible they'll ask you to double-mask. That's about it.

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