2014 Bowl Projections

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:35 am

There are already 9 bowl eligible Pac 12 teams with 7 bowl slots. 2 teams like osu or uw will be shipped to random non Pac 12 bowls

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:37 am

ASUHATER! wrote:There are already 9 bowl eligible Pac 12 teams with 7 bowl slots. 2 teams like osu or uw will be shipped to random non Pac 12 bowls

Eight right now.

OSU is not bowl eligible unless they beat Oregon today. Cal can get there by beating BYU.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:44 am

Weird the site I looked at showed osu being 6-5.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:43 pm

Update to PAC-12 standings assuming Oregon holds its 30 point lead on OSU:

Current overall standings:

Oregon 8-1 (11-1) Rose/Sugar (or CFP Bowl with loss to Arizona)
Arizona 7-2 (10-2) CFP Bowl (chance at Rose/Sugar with win over Oregon)
UCLA 6-3 (9-3) Alamo (or Holiday, Foster Farms, Sun, Las Vegas, Cactus)
ASU 6-3 (9-3) Holiday ( or Alamo, Foster Farms, Sun, Las Vegas, Cactus)
USC 6-3 (8-4) Foster Farms (or Alamo, Holiday, Sun, Las Vegas, Cactus)
Utah 5-4 (8-4) Sun (or Alamo, Holiday, Foster Farms, Las Vegas, Cactus)
Stanford 5-4 (7-5) Las Vegas (or Alamo, Holiday, Foster Farms, Sun, Cactus)
UW 3-5 (7-5) Cactus (if they get to 4-5 vs. Wazzu tonight Las Vegas could pick them)

This assumes the bowls are still choosing under the old rules (can pick any team within one game in the conference standings.)
5 teams bunched at 6-3/5-4.

ASU went to the Holiday Bowl last year, so maybe they take U$C instead, dropping ASSU to Foster Farms? Vegas is a short drive for Utah fans, although most don't drink or gamble, might be better than Sun.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:47 pm

I think Washington goes to Cactus. Asu to Sun.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:49 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:Dont forget about the Cactus bowl. Not for Az but for other teams.

That's the BWW renamed. Also forgot Foster Farms (SF). Will fix.

prh · Post by **prh** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:54 pm

How does selection for the semi location go? Is it preselected which game gets 1/4 and 2/3, or do they figure out the pairings and then choose where to send the teams? It would make sense to keep a Pac12 team in the Rose, just curious how that works.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:56 pm

prh wrote:How does selection for the semi location go? Is it preselected which game gets 1/4 and 2/3, or do they figure out the pairings and then choose where to send the teams? It would make sense to keep a Pac12 team in the Rose, just curious how that works.

I thought I read somewhere that the Rose is getting #2 vs. #3 this year.

Would kind of suck if we ended up #4, although the Sugar Bowl would be a nice consolation prize.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:59 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:
prh wrote:How does selection for the semi location go? Is it preselected which game gets 1/4 and 2/3, or do they figure out the pairings and then choose where to send the teams? It would make sense to keep a Pac12 team in the Rose, just curious how that works.
I thought I read somewhere that the Rose is getting #2 vs. #3 this year.

Would kind of suck if we ended up #4, although the Sugar Bowl would be a nice consolation prize.

If that's the case with the Rose, I'd hope they slot us #3 just for the sake of getting us to the Rose. Can you imagine the draw we'd be? First time ever going?

Forget travelling well, we'd take that bowl and city over.

prh · Post by **prh** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:06 pm

Well then we just need Alabama to lose so we can slide to #3 w/ a win

prh · Post by **prh** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:32 pm

prh wrote:How does selection for the semi location go? Is it preselected which game gets 1/4 and 2/3, or do they figure out the pairings and then choose where to send the teams? It would make sense to keep a Pac12 team in the Rose, just curious how that works.

UAEebs86 wrote:I thought I read somewhere that the Rose is getting #2 vs. #3 this year.

Would kind of suck if we ended up #4, although the Sugar Bowl would be a nice consolation prize.

I should have googled a little harder. Directly from the CFP:

B. When assigning teams to sites, the committee will place the top two seeds at the most advantageous sites, weighing criteria such as convenience of travel for its fans, home-crowd advantage or disadvantage and general familiarity with the host city and its stadium. Preference will go to the No. 1 seed.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:40 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:
Gilbertcat wrote:Dont forget about the Cactus bowl. Not for Az but for other teams.
That's the BWW renamed. Also forgot Foster Farms (SF). Will fix.

Yeah I saw you caught it. Sponsors change so fast but at least the San Frans bowl reward wont be serving food to homeless like the kraft fight hunger made them do. Its cool and good karma but as a reward...

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:22 pm

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... redictions

'Cats vs. TOSU in the Cotton Bowl.

Sage&Silver · Post by **Sage&Silver** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:40 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... redictions

'Cats vs. TOSU in the Cotton Bowl.

I like that game better than BSU.

Fiesta would be huge for fans, but playing Boise State is a lose-lose situation.

Win and it is a W against a program that's been down recently (and even further from ESPN's spotlight than UA) and snuck in due to contractual obligations.

Lose, and well....

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:46 pm

Cotton Bowl to get a beat down from tOSU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... redictions

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:52 pm

Merkin wrote:Cotton Bowl to get a beat down from tOSU: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... redictions

3rd string QB and Big Ten team? That would not be a beat down Merk. I think the Cats would win.

And your post was a little late...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:30 am

Merkin wrote:Cotton Bowl to get a beat down from tOSU

Not sure if this is reverse jinx sandbagging on your part, but we would kick the shit out of Ohio State. Not sure why anyone would think otherwise.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:15 am

tOSU will not be the same team without Barrett.

Would love to have revenge for that 1991 beat down in Columbus which was my first visit to the Horseshoe.

michcat · Post by **michcat** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:05 am

UAEebs86 wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... redictions

'Cats vs. TOSU in the Cotton Bowl.

I would love to see this. tOSU is not the same without Barrett

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:19 am

Oregon needs to get past us first

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:16 am

Just wanted to mention that whether the 'Cats lose, or win and sneak in/get left out of the 4 team playoff, we are SO much better off with this team/season under the new system.

Under the old BCS system, which was a mix of the AP & Coaches Polls, and computer polls, I bet we wouldn't have even sniffed a BCS bowl.
We have been consistently ranked lower by the voters than the CFP committee, and I took a peak at Sagarin, and his computer
poll has us at #23. (A composite of 3 computer rankings: #15 ,#27, #29). Our close wins kill us in most computer polls.
ASU went 10-2 in the PAC-12 last year and didn't make a BCS bowl (by one spot in the rankings meaning they weren't eligible).

The committee seems to be saying just win baby! The addition of two extra CFP bowls helps too.

It's a great time to be a Wildcat!

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:19 am

http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... layoff-tcu

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:40 pm

Alieberman wrote:
ghostwhitehorse wrote:Fuck Cowherd with a pogostick. http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first
That has to be a mistake.

Cowherd has us at #7 this week.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first

michcat · Post by **michcat** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:06 am

Chicat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
ghostwhitehorse wrote:Fuck Cowherd with a pogostick. http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first
That has to be a mistake.
Cowherd has us at #7 this week.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first

Butch Davis has us at 11 behind Missouri? What a freakn joke - Missouri lost at home to Indiana!!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:12 am

michcat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
ghostwhitehorse wrote:Fuck Cowherd with a pogostick. http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first
That has to be a mistake.
Cowherd has us at #7 this week.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first
Butch Davis has us at 11 behind Missouri? What a freakn joke - Missouri lost at home to Indiana!!

Not as bad as Desmond Howard who has allowed his RichRod hate to infect his brain and slotted us 13th.

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:24 am

Chicat wrote:
michcat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
ghostwhitehorse wrote:Fuck Cowherd with a pogostick. http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first
That has to be a mistake.
Cowherd has us at #7 this week.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... show/first
Butch Davis has us at 11 behind Missouri? What a freakn joke - Missouri lost at home to Indiana!!
Not as bad as Desmond Howard who has allowed his RichRod hate to infect his brain and slotted us 13th.

Howard has Arizona 13th this week?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:30 am

Yes, as the lowest ranked 2-loss team (except Boise St) behind Kansas State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Missouri, Georgia Tech, and Mississippi State.

Because he hates RichRod.

Dude just needs to let it go already and do his fucking job. No one cares that his feelings were hurt or whatever.

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:33 am

Chicat wrote:Yes, as the lowest ranked 2-loss team (except Boise St) behind Kansas State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Missouri, Georgia Tech, and Mississippi State.

Because he hates RichRod.

Dude just needs to let it go already and do his fucking job. No one cares that his feelings were hurt or whatever.

You have a link? I can't find this, or did he say it on TV?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:33 am

azcat34 wrote:
Chicat wrote:Yes, as the lowest ranked 2-loss team (except Boise St) behind Kansas State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Missouri, Georgia Tech, and Mississippi State.

Because he hates RichRod.

Dude just needs to let it go already and do his fucking job. No one cares that his feelings were hurt or whatever.
You have a link? I can't find this, or did he say it on TV?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/pow ... how/middle

Also, David Pollack has us at 12th. Not sure what his issue is, besides the fact that he's a SEC-fluffer and a total pinhead.

ANGCatFan · Post by **ANGCatFan** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:41 am

Chicat wrote:Yes, as the lowest ranked 2-loss team (except Boise St) behind Kansas State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Missouri, Georgia Tech, and Mississippi State.

Because he hates RichRod.

Dude just needs to let it go already and do his fucking job. No one cares that his feelings were hurt or whatever.

Screw that! Put Howard on the spot and make him defend his position.

Who has better wins than Arizona?

Let's compare the losses of the 2 loss teams.

Aren't you just letting your personal bias get in the way of your football analysis?

Look at the job Rich Rodriguez has done at Arizona. Why shouldn't he be coach of the year?

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:24 pm

Here are my projections:

Oregon 8-1 (11-1) CFP
Arizona 7-2 (10-2) CFP Bowl/National Title
UCLA 6-3 (9-3) Alamo (the bowl seems to like them)
USC 6-3 (8-4) Holiday Bowl (Havent been?)
ASU 6-3 (9-3) Sun Bowl (Havent been in a while)
Utah 5-4 (8-4) Foster Farms Bowl (Havent been?)
Stanford 5-4 (7-5) Las Vegas (Havent been?)
UW Ticket City Cactus Bowl (Havent been and didnt visit during regular season plus a big draw in the valley)

I feel that bowls will want some new blood and switch around to prevent teams that have been there within the last few years. It would be a real shame if an AZ loss sends them to the Alamo bowl. I project a national title but if AZ ends up in the Fiesta against Boise, well then that would be a blast. Hopefully, location plays a roll in landing the Fiesta over the Cotton because I am lazy and only want to drive a little bit.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:16 pm

http://www.sfbowl.org/ViewArticle.dbml? ... =209793300

This dude seems to think a blowout would send us to the Bay bowl. I cant see that since the fans are going Friday and man, that would be a slap in the face. Would wonder the motivation level of the team in that case.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:26 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:http://www.sfbowl.org/ViewArticle.dbml? ... =209793300

This dude seems to think a blowout would send us to the Bay bowl. I cant see that since the fans are going Friday and man, that would be a slap in the face. Would wonder the motivation level of the team in that case.

Wait so he thinks we'd get passed over by the fiesta, Alamo, holiday and possibly Sun bowl?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:29 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Gilbertcat wrote:http://www.sfbowl.org/ViewArticle.dbml? ... =209793300

This dude seems to think a blowout would send us to the Bay bowl. I cant see that since the fans are going Friday and man, that would be a slap in the face. Would wonder the motivation level of the team in that case.
Wait so he thinks we'd get passed over by the fiesta, Alamo, holiday and possibly Sun bowl?

Well if we drop out of the Top 10 Fiesta can't take us.

The question is would 3 losses, one to a Top 2 team we already beat once, knock us that low?

SF picks before Sun now BTW.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:45 pm

Its possible but I think he was just hopeful. It would probably be the alamo but I would hope for a switch with the Holiday. Risk reward play for it all.

dc4azcats · Post by **dc4azcats** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:46 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:Its possible but I think he was just hopeful. It would probably be the alamo but I would hope for a switch with the Holiday. Risk reward play for it all.

It's not possible as the bowl director for the Foster Farms Bowl has already stated that they will be taking Stanford.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:00 pm

If Arizona loses and is not picked for a Playoff Group Bowl, everything would be up in the air, and the South Division champion Wildcats could conceivably fall to us. Both very attractive possibilities.

dc4azcats wrote:
Gilbertcat wrote:Its possible but I think he was just hopeful. It would probably be the alamo but I would hope for a switch with the Holiday. Risk reward play for it all.
It's not possible as the bowl director for the Foster Farms Bowl has already stated that they will be taking Stanford.

They couldn't since Az has 2 more conference wins.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:38 pm

Anything short of the Fiesta bowl would be an outrage.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:55 pm

I would also travel for the Cotton bowl but I hate early drinking. Fiesta feels just right. Good prep for playing there in 2 years also.

azthrillhouse · Post by **azthrillhouse** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:16 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:I would also travel for the Cotton bowl but I hate early drinking. Fiesta feels just right. Good prep for playing there in 2 years also.

Of the non-playoff CFP bowls, Fiesta would absolutely be the best. Planting our UofA tailgate gear on the UoP great lawn would be outstanding (assuming they allow tailgating for the Fiesta Bowl...). Cotton Bowl is meh but I would go. Worst scenario of that group would be the Peach Bowl.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:26 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:
If Arizona loses and is not picked for a Playoff Group Bowl, everything would be up in the air, and the South Division champion Wildcats could conceivably fall to us. Both very attractive possibilities.

dc4azcats wrote:
Gilbertcat wrote:Its possible but I think he was just hopeful. It would probably be the alamo but I would hope for a switch with the Holiday. Risk reward play for it all.
It's not possible as the bowl director for the Foster Farms Bowl has already stated that they will be taking Stanford.
They couldn't since Az has 2 more conference wins.

At the point the FF SF Bowl picks, Oregon and Arizona are gone to the playoffs, CFP Bowls, or Alamo/Holiday and they have dropped down to the 6-3 teams so FF can take Stanford at 5-4.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:49 am

So...did last night change (drop(kick)) Arizona's bowl slotting???

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:56 am

Absolutely. Fiesta bowl is no longer an option. Probably got dropped to the Alamo or even the holiday.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:01 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Absolutely. Fiesta bowl is no longer an option. Probably got dropped to the Alamo or even the holiday.

Wrong - Still a great option, but we didn't help ourselves last night. We needed upsets to go with a win last night, but NOW we need No upsets to get us into the Fiesta Bowl. The Fiesta hasn't done well in ticket sales the past few years and would take Arizona over most others just to fill the stadium alone. We need to be in the top 10-12 for this to happen.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:07 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Absolutely. Fiesta bowl is no longer an option.

Not sure how you could state that definitively at this point, especially since we don't know the outcome of other top-12 games today.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:07 am

After last night we will drop to at least #14-18 in the polls. The fiesta bowl is no longer an option. End of story

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:08 am

ASUHATER! wrote:After last night we will drop to at least #14-18 in the polls. The fiesta bowl is no longer an option. End of story

You may be right, but your certainty is pretty funny.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:10 am

would it have been better to have Ucla be the sacrificial lamb last night then for us to be blown out?

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:11 am

ASUHATER! wrote:After last night we will drop to at least #14-18 in the polls. The fiesta bowl is no longer an option. End of story

Okay UOFAHATER I mean ASUHATER I forgot you were on the CFP committee. All hail ASUHATER!!!

illcat · Post by **illcat** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:01 am

Come on 3gog you know asuhat is the see all know all in college FB.

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