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pc in NM wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:03 pm I hope CTL doesn't even reach out, let alone make any kind of an offer.
You do realize where we are in the recruiting timeline, don’t you?

Let’s say for some reason Bronny did get a last minute offer and did decide to be a Cat. Some of you all are acting like he’d be the worst kid on the team. Which is bonkers to me. You can question whether “the circus” is worth it but acting like he wouldn’t even be ranked if his dad wasn’t Lebron just shows you’ve never actually seen him play. Bias is a bitch!
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Kind of reminds me of the Shareef O'Neal situation when he first committed to the UA. Never did pan out as a good player, even with his health issues.
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Merkin wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:39 pm
CatMG wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:45 pm
Merkin wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:59 pm
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I know it's pretty early...but we will be getting most of the current players back next season?
We lose Henderson and Ramey. Maybe Tubelis and Ballo go pro? Suppose they would have to see how they are evaluated.
Kerr, Pelle, Boswell. Hopefully Anderson and/or Veesaar can take the next step. Bal I'm thinking maybe transfer.

The keys might be Oumar and Tubelis decisions and how quickly the incoming freshman can make an impact.
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I don't have any insider knowledge, but at least Ballo should come back. His inability to protect the rim, along with getting outplayed in many games by the opposing center will hurt his draft chances.

Don't see any benefit to Zu staying, unless he wants to work on his 3 point shot.
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Merkin wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:36 am I don't have any insider knowledge, but at least Ballo should come back. His inability to protect the rim, along with getting outplayed in many games by the opposing center will hurt his draft chances.

Don't see any benefit to Zu staying, unless he wants to work on his 3 point shot.
Thanks! I tend to agree. I think with one more season Ballo could play himself into a top pick.

If we get back Kerr, Boswell, Pelle and Ballo that would be pretty damn good.
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Call me old school, but everyone should come back unless you have a 1st round guarantee. Get your degree!
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NBA Draft Room has Zu #48 and Ballo #80.
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I think Zu would go the Euro route. I just don't see him in the NBA. Is he going to learn anything playing at Arizona another year? Idk, hopefully he comes back
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I love Zu and wish him the best, is he getting NIL?

I thought the rules got changed to allow foreign player to partake. But I can't reference anything, I'm sure there are lots of legal matters that come into play with visas and such.

Obviously I'd love to see him back.

Come back Zu!!!
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Does anyone know why KJ Lewis is not listed in the ESPN top 100?
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Dave wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:09 pm Does anyone know why KJ Lewis is not listed in the ESPN top 100?
Because ESPN doesn't watch HS basketball.
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Not surprising! Good enough answer for me. Thanks!
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Last I heard a student visa prohibits them from taking NIL money. It’s a visa rule not a ncaa rule.
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Didn’t Koloko play with Broney at Sierra Madre?

I figured he go straight to NBA so he could play with LeBron.
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I think we are talking about lucrative oversea contracts for both of them. Athleticism is key in the NBA and not sure they have enough. Then again I though TJ had no chance. One thing that might keep them here is a college degree in their country from an American university is pretty impressive. Do you realize we could have ZU and crew back for two more years? WOW.
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What? Do they get an extra year? I thought it was the kids from the cancelled season only that got an extra year, they came in after Nico, Zeke, and Josh.
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I think that 20-21 season is where they get the extra year but I could be wrong. Not sure AT would stick around that long. I am hoping for one more year
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TheCat wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:09 pm I think we are talking about lucrative oversea contracts for both of them. Athleticism is key in the NBA and not sure they have enough. Then again I though TJ had no chance. One thing that might keep them here is a college degree in their country from an American university is pretty impressive. Do you realize we could have ZU and crew back for two more years? WOW.
I'd only expect Zu and Co. to stay for only one more year max if they do decide to stay.
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TheCat wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:09 pm Then again I though TJ had no chance.
Not just you. For the two years he was playing, the Cats were 4 NBAers and a slow unathletic point guard with a negative wingspan.

Although Lute knew it all along. During his redshirt due to transfer rules year, Lute said the Cats best player wasn't even playing.

And the 4 NBAers, well...
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I don't do this often, but, I called TJ to the league and I believe I said he'd stay in longer than anyone he played with besides AG.

This was back when I was a part of the PGU community.
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Thierry Darlan is the guy that has me very intrigued. Have only seen a few clips but he looks really good.
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As I mentioned above..... intrigued. Big motor and long ass arms. I think he could really help as a change up at the power or small forward position. Only seems one other school has recruited him but that will change.
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I could see him stepping in for Henderson. He’s a bit of Benn and a bit of Dalen.
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He plays some point guard too.
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I like him. Especially size and length. The other guy that has me a bit interested is the big man on his team. Really raw but athletic and big motor. Not even sure of his name.
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TheCat wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:58 pm I like him. Especially size and length. The other guy that has me a bit interested is the big man on his team. Really raw but athletic and big motor. Not even sure of his name.
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dmjcat wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:07 pm
TheCat wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:58 pm I like him. Especially size and length. The other guy that has me a bit interested is the big man on his team. Really raw but athletic and big motor. Not even sure of his name.
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If we land him and he protects the rim like that then I'll be doing a lot of what it says on his jersey. On a serious note, he's more project than anything else now, but considering we don't have any athletic posts on roster, he would fit a big hole there.
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Thanks DMJ. That's the guy I was talking about. Raw but really athletic with an attitude. Not a huge offensive game yet but he is some kind of a defender.
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Is Tommy already trying to get both or is Darlan the only target?
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Not sure but like them both. Where we really fall short is having a guard that can penetrate. Then he could dish to a big, take it to the rack or kick it out. Pella has been doing a lot of that for us lately but would really help if we had a primary guard that wasn't just a 3 point shooter.
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Might be a plus for us because his other main option was the pro's. Sorry to hear about the injury though.
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Just saw a mock draft with Darlan as the 13th pick in 2024. Would love to have him next season.
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g32knights wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:20 am Just saw a mock draft with Darlan as the 13th pick in 2024. Would love to have him next season.
Cody Williams #1 overall, Thierry Darlan #13, Henri Veesaar #33.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-draft ... -mock=2024
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Cody at #1?? Holy shite. I knew he was a good prospect, but I had no idea he was in the conversation for top overall in '24. We really missed out.
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If he is he needs gain 30-40 lbs in the next year.
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Maybe off topic, but if Calipari leaves UK, there's gonna be a feeding frenzy on all those 5-stars in their '23 class.
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Scheer and Branham both put in crystal balls for Thierry Darlan to go pro.
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Crap
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Was that our last chance at elite talent for '23?
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No surprise there.
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Factoid: (From Jeff B at ESPN)

Of the top 100 recruits in 2022, only 17 are averaging double figures in scoring this season.

Of the top 100 transfers last spring, 62 — 62! — are averaging double figures.

On the shifting balance of power when it comes to recruiting and roster-building.
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Evidently he is eligible to attend the UA in 2023 or 2024
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