Conference Realignment
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There's still a ton of time for us to face-plant on this.
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Yes - As of an hour ago the Big 12 has formally approved Arizona’s application to join.
Last step is the Board of Regents greenlighting the move. Currently in session for another hour. Will we know tonight?
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Another hour? I thought it was gonna end at 7:20
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It blows seeing the 108 year history of the pac 12 and it's precursors come to such a greed driven end, but it is necessary if we want to see Arizona athletics survive and thrive. As I grow old I'll always miss those lazy Saturday afternoon with Keith Jackson calling abc sports pac 10 games and the traditional rose bowl and being a student during the pac 10 days and just the natural good clean west coast feeling of a Washington State/Cal or Arizona/Oregon game. It just won't feel the same having Cincinnati or Iowa State or Baylor as conference foes instead of UCLA or Stanford or Washington. But it is survival.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Ok yes…so when will we know what the BoR has to say?
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So long, Stinktown!
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Not that I want ASU to tag along, but what more could George possibly say to salvage this? This shit Apple deal expires tomorrow, everyone hates it, and even if he managed to throw in a few slots on real TV, it's nothing compared to what the Big 12 will give them, and even more of a joke to try and keep Oregon and Washington from moving to the Big 10. Is some guilt trip of what will happen to the four schools with nowhere to go supposed to be enough to convince Crow to stay?
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I and every Arizona fan would be so owned if asu stayed in the pac 12
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This is an amazing callback.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
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So in the replies of that Karpman tweet above, sounds like the sentiment in the BoR meeting is that Arizona is going and ASU is planning to stay? For now? Are the votes in? Can someone, anyone, with more clarity into what’s going on catch us up?
Edit: Wow, ASU fans not happy with Crow at the moment. To quote one of the replies re: Crow: “Will set ASU athletics back decades because he wants power and control that the Pac affords him.”
Edit: Wow, ASU fans not happy with Crow at the moment. To quote one of the replies re: Crow: “Will set ASU athletics back decades because he wants power and control that the Pac affords him.”
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Good thing he was focused on the Pacific Rim. Just totally fucking nailed that one Larry.
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I don’t know that anyone has any more clarity than that. You nailed it. We are gone and ASSU is looking to stay. They’re idiots rejecting a life preserver because they want to see if a luxury yacht stops by.
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We’re never going to the Rose Bowl!!!!
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We already sent our big 12 application in and it's been accepted by the big 12, the ABOR likely approved the move during their meeting but will probably be made official tomorrow
Asu hasn't sent in an application and looking like crow still wants to hear out the pac 12 apple deal out
If they do want to move, they're a couple days or a week behind
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Ok, now I don’t feel so bad about my frustrated confusion - sounds like the BoR meeting was a shitshow:CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pmI don’t know that anyone has any more clarity than that. You nailed it. We are gone and ASSU is looking to stay. They’re idiots rejecting a life preserver because they want to see if a luxury yacht stops by.
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Crow is a long-term thinker.
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They’ll never recover.CatsbyAZ wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:51 pm So in the replies of that Karpman tweet above, sounds like the sentiment in the BoR meeting is that Arizona is going and ASU is planning to stay? For now? Are the votes in? Can someone, anyone, with more clarity into what’s going on catch us up?
Edit: Wow, ASU fans not happy with Crow at the moment. To quote one of the replies re: Crow: “Will set ASU athletics back decades because he wants power and control that the Pac affords him.”
This is what machina wants for us.
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ASU will be King of Shit Mountain. Fits their color scheme.
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Apparently crow made a comment that arizona was moving to fast and tried to hold us back.CatsbyAZ wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:07 pmOk, now I don’t feel so bad about my frustrated confusion - sounds like the BoR meeting was a shitshow:CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pmI don’t know that anyone has any more clarity than that. You nailed it. We are gone and ASSU is looking to stay. They’re idiots rejecting a life preserver because they want to see if a luxury yacht stops by.
Fuck that guy.
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The only ship that will be stopping by at asu will be a garbage scow.CardiacCats97 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pmI don’t know that anyone has any more clarity than that. You nailed it. We are gone and ASSU is looking to stay. They’re idiots rejecting a life preserver because they want to see if a luxury yacht stops by.
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I can't stand that one person at the restaurant table who just keeps reading and reading and reading the menu.
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You guys know enfuego and all his buddies will be visiting this site a lot more now.
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Also, won't there be those few good players, regional guys who used to get snagged by WSU and OSU and ASSU who wanna stay out here but don't want to play in the MWC? Won't they visit this campus more now?
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Welp, at least our record for Rose Bowl games played in will remain perfect.
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If assu stays they are gonna make multiple CFPs
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That's some long-game 12D chess there. Genius, and stable to boot, eh?
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So what I'm reading is that Machina is really Crow? It all makes sense now.
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I fucking hate it but until the rules change they will be in good position for it.
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No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
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You are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
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They'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
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Until the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
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The rules of everything besides physics are changing as we type. It's probably moot because ASSU and UU are XII/XVI bound.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 pmUntil the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
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Put down the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 pmUntil the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
Oh, and one other thing:
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So what other 2 conferences are gonna get the automatic bids after the B1G SEC ACC and Big 12?dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:11 pmPut down the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 pmUntil the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
Oh, and one other thing:
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I'm jealous.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 pmUntil the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
And to save money maybe they can go live with you under your bridge, troll.
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1. Who gives a shit if they make it every year just to get absolutely shredded by anyone they face from the B1G or SEC?PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 pmUntil the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
2. The CFP expansion is only for 2024 and 2025 so far, they have very clearly stated it can and will change if needed. It wasn't even supposed to kick in until 2026 except they made a last second change. Nothing stopping them from changing it back due to conference realignments.
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B1G North => 1 bidPHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:20 pmSo what other 2 conferences are gonna get the automatic bids after the B1G SEC ACC and Big 12?dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:11 pmPut down the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 pmUntil the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.
Oh, and one other thing:
B1G South => 1 bid
SEC East => 1 bid
SEC West => 1 bid
B12 East => 1 bid
B12 West => 1 bid
OK, I just made up the Conference names, but you get the idea. That's yer 6 automatic bids.
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I don’t want those twats anywhere near the CFP. We will never hear the end of it. Yes they will still get destroyed by a Penn St or Tennessee but they will still be inFishclamps wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:54 pm1. Who gives a shit if they make it every year just to get absolutely shredded by anyone they face from the B1G or SEC?PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:03 pmUntil the rules are changed the top 6 conference winners get automatic bids. The Mountain West PAC12 merger winner will be a top 6 conference winner every year. If fucking sucks but Oregon state Washington State and assu are gonna make CFPsarizonawildcats wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:01 pmThey'd have to go undefeated and bribe the selection committee. Come on, man. Stop it.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:57 pmYou are a fucking moronCalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:54 pm No you don’t. Don’t lie. You’re a Phx townie first and cats fan distant second
2. The CFP expansion is only for 2024 and 2025 so far, they have very clearly stated it can and will change if needed. It wasn't even supposed to kick in until 2026 except they made a last second change. Nothing stopping them from changing it back due to conference realignments.
Fuck asu and the money they will make if it happens
I don’t see them changing the 6 conference title winners rule though. The other conferences need a voice and a chance and changing it to 5 still helps asu and Oregon State and fucks over the other conferences
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It's like talking to a brick wall.
Once football is consolidated to 3 power conferences or less, which will happen with the death of the ACC and the Pac, they will not give a shit about all the lesser conferences and exclude them.
Hell, the Big 12 will probably die off sooner rather than later if it can't improve its position in football.
But the Pac is done. It's over. Dead.
Once football is consolidated to 3 power conferences or less, which will happen with the death of the ACC and the Pac, they will not give a shit about all the lesser conferences and exclude them.
Hell, the Big 12 will probably die off sooner rather than later if it can't improve its position in football.
But the Pac is done. It's over. Dead.
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The ACC ain’t dying for at least 12 years manFishclamps wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:07 pm It's like talking to a brick wall.
Once football is consolidated to 3 power conferences or less, which will happen with the death of the ACC and the Pac, they will not give a shit about all the lesser conferences and exclude them.
Hell, the Big 12 will probably die off sooner rather than later if it can't improve its position in football.
But the Pac is done. It's over. Dead.
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Oh yeah for sure man, schools openly talking about bailing from the ACC over revenue issues is the sign that a conference is on the right track.
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Espn can demand up to 500 Million a school as a buyout or take every penny they make on tv rights until their GOR ends.Fishclamps wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:14 pm Oh yeah for sure man, schools openly talking about bailing from the ACC over revenue issues is the sign that a conference is on the right track.
The ACC schools have zero leverage except public opinion. Seriously UA joining the B1G is a billion times more likely than the ACC going away anytime soon
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Oh yeah that's true, cause no school has ever left a conference in the middle of a media contract...
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Never with that big of a penthouse and never with that many years left on a media dealFishclamps wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:25 pm Oh yeah that's true, cause no school has ever left a conference in the middle of a media contract...
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The best teams will still get the best bowls and the most money. I don't know what you're trying to prove.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:27 pmNever with that big of a penthouse and never with that many years left on a media dealFishclamps wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:25 pm Oh yeah that's true, cause no school has ever left a conference in the middle of a media contract...
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FESPN is such trash. It’s not the four “Corner Schools”. It’s the “4-Corners” schools. It’s a freaking national landmark. Go watch Breaking Bad, or buy an atlas.