azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:20 pm
How does a collective have any say over who the coach might be?
To bad we can’t get a binding agreement from the players who say they would likely stay if Nansen was hired
Donors talk to collective staffers and leaders
Obviously the biggest ones want Brennan and will give more
I don't get the hard on for Brennan? Has ties to University, great. 34-48 record, not so great. Seems pretty underwhelming to me, San Jose State or not. Actually reminds me of the Chip Hale hire, which has been pretty underwhelming.
Jedd Fisch can go get a case of perpetual uncontrollable diarrhea as far as I am concerned. Guy was just a con artist blowing smoke up everyone's ass. Can only hope Washington fails miserably and he is fired in 3 years. Although, I am actually getting Jay Johnson vibes all over again. Fuck
Ok - I'll take the job. Could you imagine my press conferences - I will promise to mock all the other coaches we play and their fan bases.. I'll also promise to not to use any "coach speak". Here is a sample:
BBQ wildcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:28 pm
Just hire Nansen to try to keep our best players here
Texas being Texas of course, see Duane Akina Redux, but I don't expect a lot of success for them in the SEC.
At Arizona, Nansen could continue what Fisch started, and have a good chance of winning the B12 next season.
Not sure I believe that Fifita and T-Mac "told people", but if true would love to see it. Not that players should ever have final say on a coach, see Khalil Tate meeting with Robbins.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
If somehow this team stays together and is galvanized, that 30/30 Fisch talked about will come true. They will be legends and Fisch will be the villain
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Hopefully all the Nansen tweets mean we're leaning towards him.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:22 pm
If somehow this team stays together and is galvanized, that 30/30 Fisch talked about will come true. They will be legends and Fisch will be the villain
Not just that: I think we can all imagine Fisch told the Washington AD ‘all my players will come with me if you hire me and UW immediately restocks.’
If that didn’t happen…well, that might be a bit of a rocky start up in Seattle.
azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:22 pm
If somehow this team stays together and is galvanized, that 30/30 Fisch talked about will come true. They will be legends and Fisch will be the villain
Not just that: I think we can all imagine Fisch told the Washington AD ‘all my players will come with me if you hire me and UW immediately restocks.’
If that didn’t happen…well, that might be a bit of a rocky start up in Seattle.
azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:22 pm
If somehow this team stays together and is galvanized, that 30/30 Fisch talked about will come true. They will be legends and Fisch will be the villain
Not just that: I think we can all imagine Fisch told the Washington AD ‘all my players will come with me if you hire me and UW immediately restocks.’
If that didn’t happen…well, that might be a bit of a rocky start up in Seattle.
Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:27 pm
Why would nancen or Nelson leave dc job at TX to be a DC AT AZ?
Well allegedly he only left because he had beef with Fisch in the first place. If Arizona could get both Brennan and Nansen it would make the boosters and the players happy I guess.
azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:22 pm
If somehow this team stays together and is galvanized, that 30/30 Fisch talked about will come true. They will be legends and Fisch will be the villain
Not just that: I think we can all imagine Fisch told the Washington AD ‘all my players will come with me if you hire me and UW immediately restocks.’
If that didn’t happen…well, that might be a bit of a rocky start up in Seattle.
His rocky start is called Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State and probably Wisconsin.
Shouldnt this move make everyone potentially happy if it actually pans out? You get a guy who has strong Tucson ties and probably wont bail at least as fast as others using us as a stepping stone, and the players get to have Nansen back as AHC/DC and so they stay?
Edit: Plus also maybe Akina comes back with Nansen?
Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:27 pm
Why would nancen or Nelson leave dc job at TX to be a DC AT AZ?
Well allegedly he only left because he had beef with Fisch in the first place. If Arizona could get both Brennan and Nansen it would make the boosters and the players happy I guess.
Another possiblity could be getting Kevin Cummings back as he has had prior experience with Brennan. Maybe give him a nice raise and promotion. I would try anything to bring Graham back too. Let Carroll and Doughtery go with Fisch.
Pretty much the only way I am ok with Brennan is if Nansen comes too. Just seems to good to be true though. Otherwise all aboard the Nansen train if it means keeping the team mostly intact. Anything to make Fisch flop in his first year in Seattle.
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I understand people not wanting Brennan I guess, but if we can bring Nansen and Akina back on defense with Brennan as head coach and a couple other coaches end up staying because of it, it really seems like the best possible scenario for Arizona on the whole.
Not a fan of a BB hire if we aren't getting Nansen as part of it. I think that would just be admitting failure and knowingly losing a ton of players along with huge momentum loss.
No it is not.......Jason your losing credibility and giving false hope. If Brent B is named coach better check and see if he has a good qb and some recrs that will transfer.
So the plan is to become mediocre. Is it possible we don't have the money to go after someone better? I don't understand why we would abandon the route we just took with Jedd the snake and go after an up and comer. BB is 34-48 overall. WTF
Fishclamps wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:56 pm
I understand people not wanting Brennan I guess, but if we can bring Nansen and Akina back on defense with Brennan as head coach and a couple other coaches end up staying because of it, it really seems like the best possible scenario for Arizona on the whole.
This is just bullshit that Scheer is throwing out there. It what universe does an assistant coach that leaves immediately after the end of a season knowing exactly what we have coming back to go to Texas decides to come back and take the same job he left????? You think he can more money here? After we have a short fall in resources that ABOR says we need a plan in the next 30 days to fill the shortfall? The same shortfall that I'm sure led to Arizona soft walking Jedd raise forward for approval?
Wasn't Scheer the one that said this shortfall would have no effect?
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No it is not.......Jason your losing credibility and giving false hope. If Brent B is named coach better check and see if he has a good qb and some recrs that will transfer.
You might be on to something here. Actually does seem like Scheer could be giving fans false hope for clicks. Honestly, if Brennan is the coach why would Nansen come back to be DC again? Only explanation is that Nansen really wants to see this out with his guys, but left because he knew the Fisch was rotten. Other than that I have nothing.
Who is better that we would have the money for? Whoever we hire is gonna be a gamble regardless. Most people on this board I'm guessing weren't all that happy when we hired Fisch.
Fishclamps wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:56 pm
I understand people not wanting Brennan I guess, but if we can bring Nansen and Akina back on defense with Brennan as head coach and a couple other coaches end up staying because of it, it really seems like the best possible scenario for Arizona on the whole.
This is just bullshit that Sheer is throwing out there. It what universe does an assistant coach that leaves immediately after the end of a season knowing exactly what we have coming back to go to Texas decides to come back and take the same job he left????? You think he can more money here? After we have a short fall in resources that ABOR says we need a plan in the next 30 days to fill the shortfall? The same shortfall that I'm sure led to Arizona soft walking Jedd raise forward for approval?
Wasn't Sheer the one that said this shortfall would have no effect?
You do realize they could use the money they were going to give to Fisch as a raise right? And if it's true he left cause he didn't like how Fisch was running the program what's to stop him from coming back now that Fisch is gone?
Scheer is saying that Nansen is co-dc at UT so maybe if we offer him ahc/dc, he might come back. He does seem to be wanting for UA to be good. I mean, Jason makes more money when we are good.
Again, this is all allegedly, but Fisch was promising recruits and players NIL stuff that he had no chance of actually giving them, and Nansen was none too keen to let Fisch tank his reputation because of that.
Fishclamps wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:56 pm
I understand people not wanting Brennan I guess, but if we can bring Nansen and Akina back on defense with Brennan as head coach and a couple other coaches end up staying because of it, it really seems like the best possible scenario for Arizona on the whole.
This is just bullshit that Sheer is throwing out there. It what universe does an assistant coach that leaves immediately after the end of a season knowing exactly what we have coming back to go to Texas decides to come back and take the same job he left????? You think he can more money here? After we have a short fall in resources that ABOR says we need a plan in the next 30 days to fill the shortfall? The same shortfall that I'm sure led to Arizona soft walking Jedd raise forward for approval?
Wasn't Sheer the one that said this shortfall would have no effect?
You do realize they could use the money they were going to give to Fisch as a raise right? And if it's true he left cause he didn't like how Fisch was running the program what's to stop him from coming back now that Fisch is gone?
Okay.....he will still make less than at Texas is paying him now plus your assuming that the new coach won't be compensated more than Jedd was. Since ASU's new coach makes over $1M more I think that is a bad assumption. So let me even make it simpler for you. Jedd with a H/C record of 16-21 and a conference record of 11-16 is making more than DeBoer did at Washington with a head coaching record of 104-12. Jedd 7 year contract with WA will pay him nearly 56M. The most I think AZ could get close to was 5 yr / 27M.
Just trying to save you from disappointment. I will hope it is true but it makes no sense at all.
That's fair enough, but none of us know how any coaching hire is gonna work out here. Every time the fans expect the team to zig, they zag. If it doesn't work out we'll start over again in 2-3 years except maybe not have to find a new coach in a 72 hour window.
