(M) Game #19 Arizona at Oregon State (2023-2024)

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That fucking ref changed a foul call (an obvious foul!!) to a jump…

Johnson should have gone after the ref!!
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Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:43 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
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The older I get, the more I know I'm going to treat our next Final Four like our last one. Ever.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:43 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
God hates me.
Damn you!!!
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No center!!
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Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
Too many stupid turnovers
Too many missed bunnies
Too many missed FT's
Can't buy a 3 point shot
Playing crappy defense against the 3 point shot (we continue to stink against the high ball screen)

And most of all.....we are not playing with any intensity. Oregon State wants this game more than we do
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dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:45 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:42 pm Anyone wanna wager a guess as to why we seem to be getting worse not better?
Too many stupid turnovers
Too many missed bunnies
Too many missed FT's
Can't buy a 3 point shot
Playing crappy defense against the 3 point shot (we continue to stink against the high ball screen)

And most of all.....we are not playing with any intensity. Oregon State wants this game more than we do
I'm not hearing any criticism of our coaches. Is that because our coaches are awesome but our players have checked out?
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The Athletic was right, this team is not going far in the tourney. Might even not win the last Pac tourney.
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Merkin wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:46 pm The Athletic was right, this team is not going far in the tourney. Might even not win the last Pac tourney.
I was convinced we weren't winning the Pac tourney after the WSU loss.
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Do we really want to win the tourney?
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When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.
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Shit
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When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
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KaibabKat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.
I see that. I really didn't anticipate having major (potentially season-jeopardizing) PG issues by mid-season.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard
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KaibabKat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.
And he's our weakest defender
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dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard
Anything would be better than this.
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AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:49 pm Do we really want to win the tourney?
That is not even in the discussion now. We’ve got issues.
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We might not win another game outside McKale. And OSU is another team shooting over 50% from 3. One team doing it is an anomaly. But I think this is the 3rd or 4th time against us so far this year. Our D is just bad.
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84Cat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
KaibabKat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When your starting point guard actually has four negative PER's over eight Pac-12 games there should not really be any question what the biggest problem is for this team.
And he's our weakest defender
He also had back to back games with 5 steals earlier this season. You just don't know what you're getting from night to night with him.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard
Anything would be better than this.
Even with Ballo out of the play the dribble isn't stopped or the shooter is open on the perimeter.
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53% 3 pt for the Beavs. UA had to be around 200th in 3 point defense
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At least KJ and Love fearless...
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We break down into iso drives without good action setups.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:58 pm We break down into iso drives without good action setups.
I'm no expert, but that sounds like a coaching issue.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 pm
dmjcat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:51 pm When will tommy admit we need to switch the high ball screen?
Hard to switch when its Ballo on the screener........but we could hedge the screen hard
Anything would be better than this.
You won't get any argument from me. We should switch every high ball screen......except when Ballo is on the screener when we should hedge it hard. The way we play it now is too passive. We let the shooter turn the corner and get a wide open look almost every time. This is one area that is on the coaches
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Can’t stop that
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Sure Boswell just chuck up some 40 footers
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Beavs raining 3s
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Why do I stay up this late to watch us play on the road? It’s like I enjoy torturing myself.
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Boswell shouldn't be playing the rest of the game.
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What a joke
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Feels like dejavu - getting torched from 3
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Need to get Ballo out and go to small ball now.......let Keshad play center.

And get Boswell out. I would rather have Martinez on the floot.
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Fishclamps wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:01 pm Sure Boswell just chuck up some 40 footers
I posted last week, his range is at the arc, no further than that.
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Our 3 point D is the most pathetic I've ever seen. And we play dumb basketball on the road. Like I said before, wouldn't shock me if we don't win another game away from McKale this year. Including Vegas and the Big Dance. We're just too soft, too bad on D, and make brainless turnovers at the worst times.
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Sure take Lewis out but leave Boswell in
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Can’t buy a 3 for us…
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I'm so confused what Tommy is thinking.
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MrKyle wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm Feels like dejavu - getting torched from 3
This has been theme with our defense that precedes the Lloyd era.
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Sure fall away 3 over Ballo, all net
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The Beavers are doing to us what we did to UCLA last week!
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We were 18.5 point favorites in this game.
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We FINALLY hedged a screen on that last play..........it took Lloyd 18 minutes to make that decision
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Chicat wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:02 pm Why do I stay up this late to watch us play on the road? It’s like I enjoy torturing myself.
Because bourbon taste best with a large splash of agony
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Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:06 pm
MrKyle wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 pm Feels like dejavu - getting torched from 3
This has been theme with our defense that precedes the Lloyd era.
Yea… lots of miller teams as well unfortunately
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I’m outa here. Fuck this!
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I wonder if any reporter will ask Tommy why he trusts the wrong players in crunch time. Why not play the guys who have been playing well?
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Embarrassing to get baited into that foul
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