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ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:06 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:58 am
Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.
They were ranked #11 at the end of last season........before we lost the Majority of the team to NIL & graduation.
We did not lose the "majority of the team" to NIL & graduation. I mean good lord talk about trying to rewrite history to not make Brennan look bad. These aren't the droids you're looking for guys :roll:
I hate generalizations...

How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

Until these numbers are known, shared and acknowledged, posters here are just screaming at each other...
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pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:17 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:06 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:58 am
Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.
They were ranked #11 at the end of last season........before we lost the Majority of the team to NIL & graduation.
We did not lose the "majority of the team" to NIL & graduation. I mean good lord talk about trying to rewrite history to not make Brennan look bad. These aren't the droids you're looking for guys :roll:
I hate generalizations...

How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

Until these numbers are known, shared and acknowledged, posters here are just screaming at each other...
Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

Numerous starters are out, but that doesn't excuse the level of play that we saw with them does it? I mean sure we look ultra bad now because numerous starters are hurt, but we have looked bad literally every game post-New Mexico, so I don't buy the injury excuses one bit, especially since we also switched up the Strength and Conditioning regimen and needless to say that has an impact on injuries as well. So add up an unnecessary hindrance to this staff.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:17 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:06 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:58 am
Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.
They were ranked #11 at the end of last season........before we lost the Majority of the team to NIL & graduation.
We did not lose the "majority of the team" to NIL & graduation. I mean good lord talk about trying to rewrite history to not make Brennan look bad. These aren't the droids you're looking for guys :roll:
I hate generalizations...

How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

Until these numbers are known, shared and acknowledged, posters here are just screaming at each other...
Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

Numerous starters are out, but that doesn't excuse the level of play that we saw with them does it? I mean sure we look ultra bad now because numerous starters are hurt, but we have looked bad literally every game post-New Mexico, so I don't buy the injury excuses one bit, especially since we also switched up the Strength and Conditioning regimen and needless to say that has an impact on injuries as well. So add up an unnecessary hindrance to this staff.
Specific numbers, please! If you maintain that injuries are irrelevant to performance, I'm not paying any attention.

You're better informed than most around here, and should be able to make an actual case!!

LG, C, RG, RT - makes a huge difference! Especially on a team that was in the midst of rebuilding from total crap!

DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned - and which of these were/are injured? Big difference!

And, merely saying that the "strength and conditioning regimen changed" without explicitly showing how/which injuries that resulted in is NOT much of an argument.
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He just gave you numbers in the post you quoted?
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Merkin wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:16 pm I generally find CBB's pressers to be excruciatingly boring and predictable, but it will be interesting tomorrow.
Was around lots of Arizona folks this weekend. No one I asked had heard anything about DRF having the $$$ to buy BB out nor anything regarding an impending move being made on him. Most I asked thought there was almost no chance he isn't back for season 2.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:17 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:06 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:58 am
Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.
They were ranked #11 at the end of last season........before we lost the Majority of the team to NIL & graduation.
We did not lose the "majority of the team" to NIL & graduation. I mean good lord talk about trying to rewrite history to not make Brennan look bad. These aren't the droids you're looking for guys :roll:
I hate generalizations...

How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

Until these numbers are known, shared and acknowledged, posters here are just screaming at each other...
Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

Numerous starters are out, but that doesn't excuse the level of play that we saw with them does it? I mean sure we look ultra bad now because numerous starters are hurt, but we have looked bad literally every game post-New Mexico, so I don't buy the injury excuses one bit, especially since we also switched up the Strength and Conditioning regimen and needless to say that has an impact on injuries as well. So add up an unnecessary hindrance to this staff.
Ummmmmmmmm, No.

Offense had 6 returning starters (TMac, Lemonious-Craig, Fifita, Moe, Baker, and Savinea)

Defense had 5 (Davis, Stukes, Maldanado, Manu, Johnson).

Thats only 11/22 and doesn't count the fact that we lost 2 starting RBs (Wiley/Coleman) and our top OL replacement (Magnuson).

Factor in the injuries and we played a whopping 7 out of 22 starters from last years Alamo Bowl in the UCF game.

The bulk of the team is GONE.
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Lol Scheer referenced this site(not by name) and Winger today on Luke's podcast.
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11/22 starters returning seems pretty typical.

Looking at Indiana, who is having a legendary turnaround, only returned 1 on defense and 3 on offense. UDub only returned 2 from the entire team.

UA was ranked 21st to start the season with those 11.
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Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:46 pm Lol Scheer referenced this site(not by name) and Winger today on Luke's podcast.
lol, what did he say?
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Maybe the expectations of Brennan coming in and successfully being a caretaker of the Noah/T-Mac passing combo with Akina providing continuity for the defense were excessive, albeit 6-7 wins and a minor bowl seemed within reach to many of the people who analyze sports for a living. Brennan's job was to hit the transfer portal, as Fisch had done the previous year, to patch the holes. At first glance, it looked pretty good, but he apparently missed. The injuries have been devastating, but there's still the question about why we'd suddenly experience such a slew of injuries coincidental to Brennan's arrival. But, beyond those two issues, there's the overall state of play. I'd expect even any true freshmen who might be pressed into the two-deep (and it's maybe one safety and one O-lineman) to play better after fall drills and intensive one-on-one coaching. If anybody's looking for excuses, there are plenty available. But this shouldn't have been yet another start-from-scratch 3-year plan. That's the traditional coaching retirement fund program.
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Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:16 pm He just gave you numbers in the post you quoted?
Did you read the questions he was "responding" to???
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CalStateTempe wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:00 pm
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:46 pm Lol Scheer referenced this site(not by name) and Winger today on Luke's podcast.
lol, what did he say?
Just that there's another site wildcats fans go to (this one) and that Winger brought up the fact that Scheer hated the Brennan hire as soon as his name got floated.
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Merkin wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am Fisch took over a team that was 0-5 and in the midst of a 15 game losing streak.

Brennan took over a team that was ranked 11th.
Let's be fair here. Fisch took over a team and lost to NAU. He had a losing record when he was hired by Washington. Brennan did not take over the team that was rated 11th. He took over a team in which critical players left either by transfer or graduation. CBB has not done well with what he was left with but Washington's best player is clearly Coleman and he could have helped Arizona a lot. As well as the RB that came in that has been ineligible. Not giving CBB a pass just trying to keep the real team in prospective.
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pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:54 pm
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:16 pm He just gave you numbers in the post you quoted?
Did you read the questions he was "responding" to???
Lol you didn't even read my post correctly, so you may not want to be condescending to another poster about reading.
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dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:32 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:17 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:06 pm
dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:58 am

They were ranked #11 at the end of last season........before we lost the Majority of the team to NIL & graduation.
We did not lose the "majority of the team" to NIL & graduation. I mean good lord talk about trying to rewrite history to not make Brennan look bad. These aren't the droids you're looking for guys :roll:
I hate generalizations...

How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

Until these numbers are known, shared and acknowledged, posters here are just screaming at each other...
Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

Numerous starters are out, but that doesn't excuse the level of play that we saw with them does it? I mean sure we look ultra bad now because numerous starters are hurt, but we have looked bad literally every game post-New Mexico, so I don't buy the injury excuses one bit, especially since we also switched up the Strength and Conditioning regimen and needless to say that has an impact on injuries as well. So add up an unnecessary hindrance to this staff.
Ummmmmmmmm, No.

Offense had 6 returning starters (TMac, Lemonious-Craig, Fifita, Moe, Baker, and Savinea)

Defense had 5 (Davis, Stukes, Maldanado, Manu, Johnson).

Thats only 11/22 and doesn't count the fact that we lost 2 starting RBs (Wiley/Coleman) and our top OL replacement (Magnuson).

Factor in the injuries and we played a whopping 7 out of 22 starters from last years Alamo Bowl in the UCF game.

The bulk of the team is GONE.
I included Leif as a returning starter on offense as well as Taitai on defense. If you want to argue semantics fine, but once again you return half the starting roster and this is the product that's being put out. Why are you sticking up for garbage? Who is Brent Brennan to you? Show us on the doll where the bad football coach touched you that gave you Stockholm syndrome.

Making excuses for utter dog crap and pleading for patience is nothing more than pleading to the rest of us to settle for Kevin Sumlin depths in a couple of years and start from that deep deep hole. To be fair we may not have the choice either way thanks to lack of funds. Either way this is the peak of talent he will ever have in his hands in Tucson and we're looking at a 3-4 win team. This is a man beyond his depths. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:25 am
dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:32 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:17 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:06 pm

We did not lose the "majority of the team" to NIL & graduation. I mean good lord talk about trying to rewrite history to not make Brennan look bad. These aren't the droids you're looking for guys :roll:
I hate generalizations...

How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

Until these numbers are known, shared and acknowledged, posters here are just screaming at each other...
Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

Numerous starters are out, but that doesn't excuse the level of play that we saw with them does it? I mean sure we look ultra bad now because numerous starters are hurt, but we have looked bad literally every game post-New Mexico, so I don't buy the injury excuses one bit, especially since we also switched up the Strength and Conditioning regimen and needless to say that has an impact on injuries as well. So add up an unnecessary hindrance to this staff.
Ummmmmmmmm, No.

Offense had 6 returning starters (TMac, Lemonious-Craig, Fifita, Moe, Baker, and Savinea)

Defense had 5 (Davis, Stukes, Maldanado, Manu, Johnson).

Thats only 11/22 and doesn't count the fact that we lost 2 starting RBs (Wiley/Coleman) and our top OL replacement (Magnuson).

Factor in the injuries and we played a whopping 7 out of 22 starters from last years Alamo Bowl in the UCF game.

The bulk of the team is GONE.
I included Leif as a returning starter on offense as well as Taitai on defense. If you want to argue semantics fine, but once again you return half the starting roster and this is the product that's being put out. Why are you sticking up for garbage? Who is Brent Brennan to you? Show us on the doll where the bad football coach touched you that gave you Stockholm syndrome.

Making excuses for utter dog crap and pleading for patience is nothing more than pleading to the rest of us to settle for Kevin Sumlin depths in a couple of years and start from that deep deep hole. To be fair we may not have the choice either way thanks to lack of funds. Either way this is the peak of talent he will ever have in his hands in Tucson and we're looking at a 3-4 win team. This is a man beyond his depths. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
Leif was never going to see the field this year and Taitai was not a starter last year.

I'm not making excuses just pointing out facts......something that some posters on this board can't handle. Brennan did NOT inherit a majority of the returning starters or a loaded team. Even if we did fire Brennan the next coach is not going to have immediate success, which will just lead to the Chicken Littles of the board (You) to start calling for their head. Brennan deserves a reasonable amount of time to recruit his own players and develop a team.

In any event, your constant cries to Fire Brennan are not going anywhere, as Brennan is not going anywhere. The UA doesn't have the money to indulge the UA fair weather portion of the fanbase and fire/hire new coaches every year. Its time to put a sock on it and support the team/coach.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:23 am
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:54 pm
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:16 pm He just gave you numbers in the post you quoted?
Did you read the questions he was "responding" to???
Lol you didn't even read my post correctly, so you may not want to be condescending to another poster about reading.
How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

(nada)

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

(nada)
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dmjcat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:47 am
ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:25 am
dmjcat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:32 pm
ChooChooCat wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:17 pm
I hate generalizations...

How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

Until these numbers are known, shared and acknowledged, posters here are just screaming at each other...
Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

Numerous starters are out, but that doesn't excuse the level of play that we saw with them does it? I mean sure we look ultra bad now because numerous starters are hurt, but we have looked bad literally every game post-New Mexico, so I don't buy the injury excuses one bit, especially since we also switched up the Strength and Conditioning regimen and needless to say that has an impact on injuries as well. So add up an unnecessary hindrance to this staff.
Ummmmmmmmm, No.

Offense had 6 returning starters (TMac, Lemonious-Craig, Fifita, Moe, Baker, and Savinea)

Defense had 5 (Davis, Stukes, Maldanado, Manu, Johnson).

Thats only 11/22 and doesn't count the fact that we lost 2 starting RBs (Wiley/Coleman) and our top OL replacement (Magnuson).

Factor in the injuries and we played a whopping 7 out of 22 starters from last years Alamo Bowl in the UCF game.

The bulk of the team is GONE.
I included Leif as a returning starter on offense as well as Taitai on defense. If you want to argue semantics fine, but once again you return half the starting roster and this is the product that's being put out. Why are you sticking up for garbage? Who is Brent Brennan to you? Show us on the doll where the bad football coach touched you that gave you Stockholm syndrome.

Making excuses for utter dog crap and pleading for patience is nothing more than pleading to the rest of us to settle for Kevin Sumlin depths in a couple of years and start from that deep deep hole. To be fair we may not have the choice either way thanks to lack of funds. Either way this is the peak of talent he will ever have in his hands in Tucson and we're looking at a 3-4 win team. This is a man beyond his depths. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
Leif was never going to see the field this year and Taitai was not a starter last year.

I'm not making excuses just pointing out facts......something that some posters on this board can't handle. Brennan did NOT inherit a majority of the returning starters or a loaded team. Even if we did fire Brennan the next coach is not going to have immediate success, which will just lead to the Chicken Littles of the board (You) to start calling for their head. Brennan deserves a reasonable amount of time to recruit his own players and develop a team.

In any event, your constant cries to Fire Brennan are not going anywhere, as Brennan is not going anywhere. The UA doesn't have the money to indulge the UA fair weather portion of the fanbase and fire/hire new coaches every year. Its time to put a sock on it and support the team/coach.
Leif's issues didn't happen until the fall, but ok. Taitai got starter reps, but like I said semantics, he returned 50% of the starters including 3 mocked 1st rounders.

Facts are cute, especially when they ignore the fact he will never have a roster as talented as this one and he's going to max out with 4 wins at best with said roster.

Either way if DRF can get the money to fire him and hire another coach she will. I know that for 100% fact. If she can't then he stays. End of story. I guess that makes her a Chicken Little too.
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pc in NM wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:48 am
ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:23 am
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:54 pm
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:16 pm He just gave you numbers in the post you quoted?
Did you read the questions he was "responding" to???
Lol you didn't even read my post correctly, so you may not want to be condescending to another poster about reading.
How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

(nada)

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

(nada)
Except I explained that the injuries are a red herring. We were real bad before the injuries took out our starters with the one exception being Leif Magnuson. It's a null and void point. Thanks for proving you didn't read my post correctly though.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:12 am
pc in NM wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:48 am
ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:23 am
pc in NM wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:54 pm
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:16 pm He just gave you numbers in the post you quoted?
Did you read the questions he was "responding" to???
Lol you didn't even read my post correctly, so you may not want to be condescending to another poster about reading.
How many starters from last season did not return for this season?

Starting RB, TE, Slot WR, LT, a CB, and some of the D Line did not return. That's 6-8 starters.

QB, WR1, WR2/3, LG, C, RG, RT, CB1, DE, both LBs, and all the 3 starting safeties returned. That's 14 starters.

How many starters this season are out-for-the-season this year?

(nada)

How many replacements for starters this year missed games or are out for the season?

(nada)
Except I explained that the injuries are a red herring. We were real bad before the injuries took out our starters with the one exception being Leif Magnuson. It's a null and void point. Thanks for proving you didn't read my post correctly though.
I answered, and challenged, your vague generalizations alleging the injuries were caused by the coaching staff (such bullshit!!). You mention the possibility that this could be the case, BUT you do not provide a single fact to make a case for the probability that it is the case....

But, to the point of these particular posts, YOU DID NOT GIVE NUMBERS for 2 of the 3 questions. Period.
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Winger wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:28 pm
Merkin wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:16 pm I generally find CBB's pressers to be excruciatingly boring and predictable, but it will be interesting tomorrow.
Was around lots of Arizona folks this weekend. No one I asked had heard anything about DRF having the $$$ to buy BB out nor anything regarding an impending move being made on him. Most I asked thought there was almost no chance he isn't back for season 2.
I know Scheer has mentioned it is close, but I've heard they have the money. DRF was grinding last week.
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For those looking for what Clip said in that post above:

"I know Scheer has mentioned it is close, but I've heard they have the money. DRF was grinding last week."
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Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:10 pm
CalStateTempe wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:00 pm
Fishclamps wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:46 pm Lol Scheer referenced this site(not by name) and Winger today on Luke's podcast.
lol, what did he say?
Just that there's another site wildcats fans go to (this one) and that Winger brought up the fact that Scheer hated the Brennan hire as soon as his name got floated.
Not sure how Scheer was alluding to that, and I am surprised he'd bring me up at all, but I believe what he said was "anyone but Brennan".

Was a bummer for me as Scheer is rarely wrong about anything like this.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:44 am For those looking for what Clip said in that post above:

"I know Scheer has mentioned it is close, but I've heard they have the money. DRF was grinding last week."
Thanks, I updated.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:44 am For those looking for what Clip said in that post above:

"I know Scheer has mentioned it is close, but I've heard they have the money. DRF was grinding last week."
Wouldn't surprise me. I only talked with several people. But they are all in one way or another connected and 1 of the events I was at was Arizona football-related. Posted this a million times on the other site but all it takes is 1 donor and "Arizona doesn't have the money" or "the buyout is way to big to let him go" changes in the blink of an eye. As I posted above if Jason (or Clip) is saying that Arizona is close to having the $$$ I believe him.
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So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years

I dont care how spoiled or big mad you are, firing Brennan without a significant upgrade in place or 98% of the way there would be a very foolish decision
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years

I dont care how spoiled or big mad you are, firing Brennan without a significant upgrade in place or 98% of the way there would be a very foolish decision
You'd be an upgrade to Brennan.

And I feel fully comfortable posting that having absolutely zero clue who you are :).
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Winger wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:35 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years

I dont care how spoiled or big mad you are, firing Brennan without a significant upgrade in place or 98% of the way there would be a very foolish decision
You'd be an upgrade to Brennan.

And I feel fully comfortable posting that having absolutely zero clue who you are :).
The funny thing is, the people who are in some of these groups and at a few of those "events" are huge Brennan fans... As a person. They have 0 confidence he can make it work, and have felt that way for a couple months.
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years

I dont care how spoiled or big mad you are, firing Brennan without a significant upgrade in place or 98% of the way there would be a very foolish decision
Echoing what Winger said here, but literally any coordinator that calls either an offense or defense would be a major upgrade for Arizona. A CEO coach is fine if he can hire quality coordinators and manage them. After the season Brennan had he won't be able to hire a quality offensive coordinator. He'd at best have to get lucky to find some young and eager guy that is just desperate for a shot who would work out. Good luck with that.
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We would also be able to start a search for a coach in the normal course of the coaching carousel, not scrambling to hire one in 3 days in January.
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No one is happy. Our current situation is not a winning one for either short term or long term from what I can see. Need to protect the players that are potential draft choices and take our lumps. As I stated before I think we overachieved last year and got lucky breaks with both the schedule, the injuries to both our players (lack) and opponents (some big ones), and the fact it was a down year for the conference except WA. No excuses for the coaches just think we are fooling ourselves if we think it is going to change this year. Hell we just went through a coaching search and this is what we got.
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TheCat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:50 pm No one is happy. Our current situation is not a winning one for either short term or long term from what I can see. Need to protect the players that are potential draft choices and take our lumps. As I stated before I think we overachieved last year and got lucky breaks with both the schedule, the injuries to both our players (lack) and opponents (some big ones), and the fact it was a down year for the conference except WA. No excuses for the coaches just think we are fooling ourselves if we think it is going to change this year. Hell we just went through a coaching search and this is what we got.
I disagree with this.

We had a damn good team last year. It just took them a little time to realize they were good.

The team I saw at USC last year was not an overachiever; they were good and just kept....coming....at...them, and I think if we had a second crack at Washington we likely would've beat them.

As for injuries, Fisch teams seemed to be pretty good at staying healthy. I'm not sure it was luck.
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Carcassdragger wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:01 pm As for injuries, Fisch teams seemed to be pretty good at staying healthy. I'm not sure it was luck.

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Winger wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:35 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years

I dont care how spoiled or big mad you are, firing Brennan without a significant upgrade in place or 98% of the way there would be a very foolish decision
You'd be an upgrade to Brennan.

And I feel fully comfortable posting that having absolutely zero clue who you are :).
Mike Luke does - he mentioned him in the podcast at least twice.
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PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years
The next two to three years will be a dumpster fire BECAUSE OF BRENNAN. This is where we are. This is what we are dealing with. We aren’t sticking our heads in the sand at Good Fan Beach.
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Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:43 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years
The next two to three years will be a dumpster fire BECAUSE OF BRENNAN. This is where we are. This is what we are dealing with. We aren’t sticking our heads in the sand at Good Fan Beach.
Bullshit. Your post lacks any sort of logic or common sense.

The vast majority of next years players will be from Fischs recruiting classes. Brennan hasn't even had 1 full year to recruit a class yet. And the class he has assembled thus far ranks 4th in the Big12 and 40th overall, pretty good considering the UA is not an $NIL$ loaded school.

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dmjcat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:50 pm
Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:43 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years
The next two to three years will be a dumpster fire BECAUSE OF BRENNAN. This is where we are. This is what we are dealing with. We aren’t sticking our heads in the sand at Good Fan Beach.
Bullshit.
I’m sorry I was mean to your boy.
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Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:55 pm
dmjcat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:50 pm
Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:43 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years
The next two to three years will be a dumpster fire BECAUSE OF BRENNAN. This is where we are. This is what we are dealing with. We aren’t sticking our heads in the sand at Good Fan Beach.
Bullshit.
I’m sorry I was mean to your boy.
I'm sorry I pointed out your lack of rational thinking and blew your fantasy out of the water.
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We’re going to have some fun revisiting this when your boy’s class shows up on campus and where it ends up being ranked if he’s retained.
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Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:23 pm We’re going to have some fun revisiting this when your boy’s class shows up on campus and where it ends up being ranked if he’s retained.
I'm already having fun shooting down your irrational, illogical claim that Coach Brennan (who doesn't even have a full recruiting class in yet) is somehow solely responsible for everything that happens to the UA next year.
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JFC this thread.
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dmjcat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:07 pm
Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:23 pm We’re going to have some fun revisiting this when your boy’s class shows up on campus and where it ends up being ranked if he’s retained.
I'm already having fun shooting down your irrational, illogical claim that Coach Brennan (who doesn't even have a full recruiting class in yet) is somehow solely responsible for everything that happens to the UA next year.
I’m glad you’re having fun. Hold on to that feeling. It will keep you warm when everyone hits the transfer portal and decommits.
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Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:33 pm
dmjcat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:07 pm
Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:23 pm We’re going to have some fun revisiting this when your boy’s class shows up on campus and where it ends up being ranked if he’s retained.
I'm already having fun shooting down your irrational, illogical claim that Coach Brennan (who doesn't even have a full recruiting class in yet) is somehow solely responsible for everything that happens to the UA next year.
I’m glad you’re having fun. Hold on to that feeling. It will keep you warm when everyone hits the transfer portal and decommits.
And if that happens it still won't change the fact that your post is just illogical drivel. Brennan still will not be responsible for the 5 classes recruited before he showed up nor is he responsible for last years recruiting class being gutted by Fischs departure.......nor is he responsible for the large chunk of Fischs players who took the NIL and ran.
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I must have missed in the fine print of Brennan’s $2.7M salary that he also earned regular testicle tongue baths from you dmj. What a perk! I mean, all that and not being held responsible for our utter failure on the field and future failure on the recruiting trail?? I’ll take that job any day! Although I’d prefer you keep your tongue to yourself. I’ve seen where it’s been. Ewww…
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Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:46 pm I must have missed in the fine print of Brennan’s $2.7M salary that he also earned regular testicle tongue baths from you dmj. What a perk! I mean, all that and not being held responsible for our utter failure on the field and future failure on the recruiting trail?? I’ll take that job any day! Although I’d prefer you keep your tongue to yourself. I’ve seen where it’s been. Ewww…
Testicle Tongue Baths??? LOL

I have to admit I have never heard of that term before. But I'm not surprised. I'm sure you are
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Alright... everyone go to their corners.

I wish Coach Brennan ever showed as much passion as what I'm seeing from posters in this thread.
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Who needs passion when you have anonymous strangers online demanding everyone concede that absolutely nothing is your fault? That even though you were gifted one of the most talented QB/WR duos in the nation and a bunch of returning starters from a really good team, anything that’s gone wrong can only be pinned on the 3F’s (Fisch, Fate, and the Fans)?

Shit… pay me $2.7M to jump in front of a microphone every week and sheepishly pay lip service about responsibility while doing absolutely fuck all to fix things. I’m in!
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dmjcat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:50 pm
Chicat wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:43 pm
PHXCATS wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:30 pm So now that it looks like people are going to get what they want off the wallet of others, who would the next coach be that can not be a complete dumpster fire for the next two-three years
The next two to three years will be a dumpster fire BECAUSE OF BRENNAN. This is where we are. This is what we are dealing with. We aren’t sticking our heads in the sand at Good Fan Beach.
Bullshit. Your post lacks any sort of logic or common sense.

The vast majority of next years players will be from Fischs recruiting classes. Brennan hasn't even had 1 full year to recruit a class yet. And the class he has assembled thus far ranks 4th in the Big12 and 40th overall, pretty good considering the UA is not an $NIL$ loaded school.

https://247sports.com/season/2025-footb ... e=Big%2012
Bragging about a football recruiting class a month before signing day is like bragging about the hot drunk girl who you almost kissed at a party when you were 13. So close to living the dream!

That class is going to look much different by signing day my friend.
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DMJ you have a valid point but this team is not only losing, we're getting blown off the field by bad teams.

This offense has a bad scheme and is not being coached well. Brennan has failed by any reasonable measure.

That being said, we probably need to keep Brent, contingent on him firing Babers at seasons end at the latest.
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Carcassdragger wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:16 am DMJ you have a valid point but this team is not only losing, we're getting blown off the field by bad teams.

This offense has a bad scheme and is not being coached well. Brennan has failed by any reasonable measure.

That being said, we probably need to keep Brent, contingent on him firing Babers at seasons end at the latest.
This is my issue with DMJ's assertions....the actual coaching has STUNK. You can argue till your blue in the face about recruiting classes, defections, injuries, etc, but at the end of the day the coaching has been mostly abysmal. We looked like ass in our very 1st game on D and have looked like ass ever since on O. We were not littered with injuries at KState, but still got shellacked. We were barely able to score on NAU with a nearly full complement on O.

You might want to focus on the actual coaching DMJ and stop looking at the fact it hasn't even been a year since we hired Bronto. A rushed hire of an average MWC coach.
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