Game 13, at UNLV (2014-2015)
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This was Arizona's worst game of the year tonight. Pre-Christmas letdown, just like in the Lute years.
Anything worse is either because of injury or is an insult to the scholarship these guys are given. They'll bounce back, and quickly.
Anything worse is either because of injury or is an insult to the scholarship these guys are given. They'll bounce back, and quickly.
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he's our best player, and he had a terrible road trip. I think we should start him.Merkin wrote:Interesting stat, never would have guessed it.
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pretty clear goaltend
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someone reasonable.....what are you doing here?catgrad97 wrote:This was Arizona's worst game of the year tonight. Pre-Christmas letdown, just like in the Lute years.
Anything worse is either because of injury or is an insult to the scholarship these guys are given. They'll bounce back, and quickly.
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Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.
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And are you really surprised?Merkin wrote:UA scores 5 points in the last 5:32.
59% FTs, outrebounded by 13.
No adjustment at all by Miller.
That's an honest question. I ask because, well, I'm not.
This is Miller ball.
Some people want to tout our adjusted O stat or this stat or that stat but bottom line is this is who we are with Miller.
The tighter his sphincter gets the tighter the rotation gets. We played better on O last year, AFTER BAsh's injury (well, after a while after he was injured), because it forced Miller's hand in playing a little different on the O side. But this year, here we are, back to the same old shit.
No reliable, clutch shooter.
No answer for the simplest of plays that the other team runs us into the ground with.
No good from the free throw line.
I said it before the season began, and I'll say it again now: This team has an elite 8 ceiling.
We'll probably get there again, and lose there again, lather, rinse, and repeat.
It's long past time to bring this back to the court, let's do it with a small update:
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I never left. But people don't respond to me a lot these days. Too much holiday drama they have to resolve, I guess.billk78 wrote:someone reasonable.....what are you doing here?catgrad97 wrote:This was Arizona's worst game of the year tonight. Pre-Christmas letdown, just like in the Lute years.
Anything worse is either because of injury or is an insult to the scholarship these guys are given. They'll bounce back, and quickly.
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I have been hoping this for the entire season. Sadly, I don't think it will happen.azpatnca wrote:he's our best player, and he had a terrible road trip. I think we should start him.Merkin wrote:Interesting stat, never would have guessed it.
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I wish we had played well enough that I could be pissed off at the blatantly biased officiating. Damn, that was some kangaroo shit.billk78 wrote:pretty clear goaltend
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Exactly good offense will always beat good defense, that's just how the game is. A good offense team like UW or a team with a talented guard that can take over game like Cal, Stanford, or Utah scare me too... U of A is not getting a cake walk through the Pac 12 this year guys, we have some major holes that were just exploited.azpatnca wrote:az91 wrote: Maybe, but the conference is going to be tough. Utah and UW have the talent and coaching to win the conference.
UW plays offense. that's scary to me.
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He also said he was out coached. Very glad he admitted that.az91 wrote:Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
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Me tooAZCatGirl wrote:He also said he was out coached. Very glad he admitted that.az91 wrote:Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.
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This is a spot on analysis.Lando05 wrote:Exactly good offense will always beat good defense, that's just how the game is. A good offense team like UW or a team with a talented guard that can take over game like Cal, Stanford, or Utah scare me too... U of A is not getting a cake walk through the Pac 12 this year guys, we have some major holes that were just exploited.azpatnca wrote:az91 wrote: Maybe, but the conference is going to be tough. Utah and UW have the talent and coaching to win the conference.
UW plays offense. that's scary to me.
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And that is pathetic, because I think Dave Rice has done less with more talent than anyone since he became head coach of UNLVAZCatGirl wrote:He also said he was out coached. Very glad he admitted that.az91 wrote:Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.
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POM you hit the nail of the head, couldn't agree anymore. I hope I'm wrongPieceOfMeat wrote:And are you really surprised?Merkin wrote:UA scores 5 points in the last 5:32.
59% FTs, outrebounded by 13.
No adjustment at all by Miller.
That's an honest question. I ask because, well, I'm not.
This is Miller ball.
Some people want to tout our adjusted O stat or this stat or that stat but bottom line is this is who we are with Miller.
The tighter his sphincter gets the tighter the rotation gets. We played better on O last year, AFTER BAsh's injury (well, after a while after he was injured), because it forced Miller's hand in playing a little different on the O side. But this year, here we are, back to the same old shit.
No reliable, clutch shooter.
No answer for the simplest of plays that the other team runs us into the ground with.
No good from the free throw line.
I said it before the season began, and I'll say it again now: This team has an elite 8 ceiling.
We'll probably get there again, and lose there again, lather, rinse, and repeat.
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But who doesn't, or couldn't, get up for Arizona?
Not sure how much credit Rice deserves for this win. UNLV wanted to be Queen For a Day and got it.
It's up to them what they make of it. Recent history has said, meh.
Thinking this UNLV team might be different. Hoping, anyway. Otherwise, they haven't earned my respect.
Not sure how much credit Rice deserves for this win. UNLV wanted to be Queen For a Day and got it.
It's up to them what they make of it. Recent history has said, meh.
Thinking this UNLV team might be different. Hoping, anyway. Otherwise, they haven't earned my respect.
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The way the ball bounced off the rim did seem unnatural, it looked like it was going to softly bounce in and then careened off the to right, if UNLV hit the rim that would explain it.Merkin wrote:
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Elite 8 ceiling? That might be optimistic. The loss of Nick Johnson and Aaron Gordon have proven to be much harder to overcome than anyone thought.PieceOfMeat wrote:And are you really surprised?Merkin wrote:UA scores 5 points in the last 5:32.
59% FTs, outrebounded by 13.
No adjustment at all by Miller.
That's an honest question. I ask because, well, I'm not.
This is Miller ball.
Some people want to tout our adjusted O stat or this stat or that stat but bottom line is this is who we are with Miller.
The tighter his sphincter gets the tighter the rotation gets. We played better on O last year, AFTER BAsh's injury (well, after a while after he was injured), because it forced Miller's hand in playing a little different on the O side. But this year, here we are, back to the same old shit.
No reliable, clutch shooter.
No answer for the simplest of plays that the other team runs us into the ground with.
No good from the free throw line.
I said it before the season began, and I'll say it again now: This team has an elite 8 ceiling.
We'll probably get there again, and lose there again, lather, rinse, and repeat.
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Does Miller's offense system put his players in positions to best maximize their offense skills? I'm asking an honest question here.
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You'd have to ask his players.Lando05 wrote:Does Miller's offense system put his players in positions to best maximize their offense skills? I'm asking an honest question here.
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I agree Miller's offense system has issues, but our defense was horrible as well. Hell, EVERYTHING we did was awful. I don't think it's fair to just blame the offense.
I disagree about the Elite 8 ceiling too. I think Miller's system can get to a Final 4.
I disagree about the Elite 8 ceiling too. I think Miller's system can get to a Final 4.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
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I think that might (and I stress might) be possible if we had an AG or a DWill on this team.AZCatGirl wrote:I agree Miller's offense system has issues, but our defense was horrible as well. Hell, EVERYTHING we did was awful. I don't think it's fair to just blame the offense.
I disagree about the Elite 8 ceiling too. I think Miller's system can get to a Final 4.
but we don't.
Hell, even with them, we couldn't make it.
It's long past time to bring this back to the court, let's do it with a small update:
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If we only get to the Elite 8 I again might come around to your line of thought, but Stanley could be the difference maker if he plays smart. Of course, that's assuming the rest of the team plays smart as well...PieceOfMeat wrote:I think that might (and I stress might) be possible if we had an AG or a DWill on this team.AZCatGirl wrote:I agree Miller's offense system has issues, but our defense was horrible as well. Hell, EVERYTHING we did was awful. I don't think it's fair to just blame the offense.
I disagree about the Elite 8 ceiling too. I think Miller's system can get to a Final 4.
but we don't.
Hell, even with them, we couldn't make it.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
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How many of these posts would exist if we won by 2?
"Good offense beats good defense, that's just how the game is"?
Excuse me while I check to see if we're talking about basketball here.
BRB
"Good offense beats good defense, that's just how the game is"?
Excuse me while I check to see if we're talking about basketball here.
BRB
Re: Game 13, at UNLV
An Homage to the Lute era where the Cats would lay a huge egg in the final road game before X-Mas every single damned year.