Bear Down Wildcats

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:02 pm

Wisconsin is so close to us in points I wouldn't be surprised to see them at 2 next week.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:54 am

For beating Green Bay? Without Farve? Most voters didn't see the game, just the score. We beat the spread!

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:07 pm

Probably get jumped by Duke, not too sure about Wisconsin.

One of my predictions at the beginning of the season was Zeus would be back next year, theeasyhe'splayed lately that may come true. He/the team need to get him more involved

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:26 pm

cats101 wrote:Probably get jumped by Duke, not too sure about Wisconsin.

One of my predictions at the beginning of the season was Zeus would be back next year, theeasyhe'splayed lately that may come true. He/the team need to get him more involved

For having being 7' and having 5% body fat he is sure seems underwhelming, but he did improve the second half after completely disappearing the first.

He was the #2 ranked center in the 2012 recruiting class.

Sad story with Austin though.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:01 pm

Just not a big man's game anymore on the offensive side. Plus, he doesn't have refined finishing skills.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:12 pm

Also doesn't have "spring" as Lute would call it. Needs to bend his knees to jump, and bring the ball down then up to get more momentum.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:53 am

AZCatGirl wrote:Wisconsin is so close to us in points I wouldn't be surprised to see them at 2 next week.

Good call.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:05 pm

No first place votes for us this week either. Hopefully we'll get a few back next week.

Looks like we dropped to 4 in the coaches poll. I guess Duke really impressed a lot of people.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:10 pm

That and we've looked mostly terrible

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:15 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:That and we've looked mostly terrible

Yep, the slow starts are hurting the blowouts.

Haven't seen Wisky, but hard to think UK isn't deserving of all the first place votes.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:05 pm

UK, Duke, and Wisconsin deserve to be the top three. Not sure about the order. Actually think Duke is the best of those three, right now at least. Amid the hype surrounding Okafor and Jones, a lot of people forgot about Justise Winslow, who is just a terrific player. He would guard RHJ if we met them in the tourney.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:05 pm

Fine with me. They beat us and let the media ride there JUNK! Let us ride the wave from Maui all the way to Indy!

pokinmik · Post by **pokinmik** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:09 pm

Inherent respect isn't something we're used to around here lately so this is nothing new. Fuck the rankings, we need a Final 4 and title and that is all that matters.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:15 pm

yeah, who cares about november rankings. duke @ wisconsin next week should shuffle things up a bit anyway. and YES, duke's playing AT kohl!!

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:16 pm

Is Kentucky still a no. 1 team? Watching only few mins of their game now, and am not seeing anything special. Arizona would give them everything they could handle in March or April.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:29 pm

Gotta respect a blowout of Kansas.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:36 pm

HiCat wrote:Is Kentucky still a no. 1 team? Watching only few mins of their game now, and am not seeing anything special. Arizona would give them everything they could handle in March or April.

A few minutes ago they missed three layups in a row.

They're finally pulling away now but yes, I'm not afraid of them at all.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:57 pm

Providence (per announcer) had 18 to's thus far. Gave up on defense a few times. Missed ft's, and didn't score on point blank shots around the hoop. Kentucky's 5 man platoon system pretty effective.

The question is, how well would Arizona's bench be against Kentucky? Arizona not as deep with York, Pitts, Ristic, n Victor.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:00 pm

Just wondering why people are still wondering what a UA/UK matchup would look like. If things continue as they should for both teams, the matchup would only happen in a very good spot for both programs...

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:22 pm

I hate Kentucky with a passion but they're pretty darn good, very tough to score against.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:44 pm

cats101 wrote:I hate Kentucky with a passion but they're pretty darn good, very tough to score against.

This UK team has to be one of the heaviest favorites to win it all over the past decade, maybe longer. Not saying they will -- these heavy favorites rarely do -- but most college hoops writers will be picking UK in March.

When was the last time there were this many future NBA players on a single team?

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:25 am

AZCatGirl wrote:
HiCat wrote:Is Kentucky still a no. 1 team? Watching only few mins of their game now, and am not seeing anything special. Arizona would give them everything they could handle in March or April.
A few minutes ago they missed three layups in a row. They're finally pulling away now but yes, I'm not afraid of them at all.

To not be afraid of that team makes little sense. They have four very good freshman who are learning and they will be dramatically different come march (just like we will be as SJ and PJC evolve). The thing that worries me the most about UK is that, while I don't believe they will score easily against us at all (their offense is definitely their weakness, but it's early), we have looked susceptible to offensive rebounds (and losing the rebounding battle in general) and they are monsters on the glass.

The other area that concerns me is their length inside. If we do face them, we HAVE to hit shots from the perimeter and I don't feel comfortable with that part of our game quite yet (although I believe TJ, York, Pitts, and SJ have the potential out there). Even with our athletes they are just so long and throw 3 shot blockers at you in both of their platoons.

Honestly, if all goes well I'm hoping we end up on the opposite side of the bracket. I think we match up better with both Wisky and Duke, and I think those teams both match up better with UK than we do. If we were to meet in the final, then so be it.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:35 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
cats101 wrote:I hate Kentucky with a passion but they're pretty darn good, very tough to score against.
This UK team has to be one of the heaviest favorites to win it all over the past decade, maybe longer. Not saying they will -- these heavy favorites rarely do -- but most college hoops writers will be picking UK in March.

When was the last time there were this many future NBA players on a single team?

Maybe the Kentucky team in 98, think they had 9 draft picks. UNC in 2012(?) was a heavy, Espn even dedicated a blog to them...then Marshall's injury happened.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:48 am

Kentucky loses Poythress for the season.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:28 am

What platoon does he play on?

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:04 pm

#3 again

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:12 am

Gary Parrish has us at #9, four spots below Gonzaga and right behind 9-2 Utah.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on- ... e-rankings

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:15 am

Not bad considering.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:19 am

Chicat wrote:Gary Parrish has us at #9, four spots below Gonzaga and right behind 9-2 Utah.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on- ... e-rankings

So only one spot below where enfuego said we'd be after the UTEP WIN.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:21 am

UAEebs86 wrote:
Chicat wrote:Gary Parrish has us at #9, four spots below Gonzaga and right behind 9-2 Utah.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye-on- ... e-rankings
So only one spot below where enfuego said we'd be after the UTEP WIN.

I have to think the AP poll will have us ahead of Utah. One of their two losses is to SDSU.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:29 pm

Not concerned about rankings. Just want to see Miller make some adjustments and win some games.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:20 am

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1

Rankings - Associated Press
Last Updated - December 29, 2014

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:45 am

ranked behind gonzaga

Machina · Post by **Machina** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:50 am

I am not confident based on what I have seen vs UTEP and UNLV that Arizona would beat Gonzaga today, either at home, road or neutral. Not saying they couldn't but I would not bet money on Arizona.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:53 am

Ok, so Arizona was a much better team three weeks ago. Good to know.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:15 am

scumdevils86 wrote:ranked behind gonzaga

Our loss, which is arguably the biggest upset of the entire college basketball season to date, was worse than their loss. We are lucky to be ranked ahead of Iowa State, as they only lost to Maryland.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:13 am

az91 wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:ranked behind gonzaga
Our loss, which is arguably the biggest upset of the entire college basketball season to date, was worse than their loss. We are lucky to be ranked ahead of Iowa State, as they only lost to Maryland.

You haven't been watching much basketball if you think our loss to UNLV was in the same solar system as some of those suffered by ranked teams so far this year...

az91 · Post by **az91** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:04 am

Puerco wrote:
az91 wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:ranked behind gonzaga
Our loss, which is arguably the biggest upset of the entire college basketball season to date, was worse than their loss. We are lucky to be ranked ahead of Iowa State, as they only lost to Maryland.
You haven't been watching much basketball if you think our loss to UNLV was in the same solar system as some of those suffered by ranked teams so far this year...

What team currently in the Top 10 has had a worst loss than our loss to UNLV?

Machina · Post by **Machina** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:32 am

az91 wrote:
Puerco wrote:
az91 wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:ranked behind gonzaga
Our loss, which is arguably the biggest upset of the entire college basketball season to date, was worse than their loss. We are lucky to be ranked ahead of Iowa State, as they only lost to Maryland.
You haven't been watching much basketball if you think our loss to UNLV was in the same solar system as some of those suffered by ranked teams so far this year...
What team currently in the Top 10 has had a worst loss than our loss to UNLV?

Only one team in the Top 25 has a worse loss than Arizona (the quality of team who beat them not margin of defeat) and that is Washington vs SB

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:36 am

Spare me the "worst loss" bullshit. AZ played back to back roadies against mid-major programs right before Xmas. It was the game of the decade for both those programs.

It's not a bad loss at all. We played like shit, but it wasn't a bad loss.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:38 am

Olsondogg wrote:Spare me the "worst loss" bullshit. AZ played back to back roadies against mid-major programs right before Xmas. It was the game of the decade for both those programs.

It's not a bad loss at all. We played like shit, but it wasn't a bad loss.

Yeah, but I heard Coach Miller blamed it on the fans.

We're still waiting Big Mach.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:53 am

Moved up to # 7 this week in the ap poll.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:57 am

84Cat wrote:Moved up to # 7 this week in the ap poll.

Zags at #6, Tah at #9

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:00 am

Bad win. Need to stop scheduling them.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:18 am

#10 in BPI

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:43 pm

Utah has solid fundamentals but no depth. Utes'll wear down.

It'll be funny if Arizona finishes the season ranked behind Gonzaga but gets seeded ahead of them based on the head-to-head.

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:53 pm

Utah has 10 players averaging >10 mpg and 9 players with PER's >15. That is pretty fair depth.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:21 am

Machina wrote:
az91 wrote:
Puerco wrote:
az91 wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:ranked behind gonzaga
Our loss, which is arguably the biggest upset of the entire college basketball season to date, was worse than their loss. We are lucky to be ranked ahead of Iowa State, as they only lost to Maryland.
You haven't been watching much basketball if you think our loss to UNLV was in the same solar system as some of those suffered by ranked teams so far this year...
What team currently in the Top 10 has had a worst loss than our loss to UNLV?
Only one team in the Top 25 has a worse loss than Arizona (the quality of team who beat them not margin of defeat) and that is Washington vs SB

You didn't say it was a loss worse than any suffered by a top 10 team. You said it was 'arguably the biggest upset of the entire college basketball season to date.' Here are some comparable upsets suffered by currently ranked teams:
Temple over Kansas. By a lot.
Providence over Notre Dame

But bad losses tend to drop teams out of the rankings, so how about these?
Stony Brook over Washington
Fresno over SDSU*
* recent game

But the granddaddy of them all so far was:
THE New Jersey Institute of Technology over Michigan

There is no way you can equate UA losing in Vegas to Michigan losing to a school most of us have never heard of in their own house.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:36 am

Texas Southern over Michigan State.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:28 am

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