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Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:01 am
by SCCats
jimson wrote:btfd16 wrote:Idk why people are so gung ho about a Cecil or Salavea head coach.. I would love either as a DC, but would be underwhelmed if we hired them as a HC
It's just an idea that this would be a destination job for an alumn who bleeds red and blue. Something they have waited for their whole life and would bring enthusiasm and a burning, hungry desire to succeed
here for the long haul.
I would rather it be a Chuck Cecil type who was currently a hot successful HC at a smaller school, but I am willing to give my support to something other than being a stepping stone for someone or a career rehab or retirement gig for someone else.
Just don’t play the “head coaching game” at all.
As many of us expect/feel deep down (see above post), we can’t win THAT GAME.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:01 am
by Chicat
PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:02 am
by TheGreatCatsby
scumdevils86 wrote:I don't really want a retread guy who's in his 50s or 60s and was fired from a couple of jobs already. Give me some 35-40 year old dude who's out there to prove himself at his first big gig. I haven't done enough research to know who that might be yet so oh well.
I also agree it has probably already been decided by Heeke...and it likely is some old retread. Shrug. AZ football plods along.
Agree with you 100%. Hiring another retread just kicks the can down the road another 5 years before we hire another retread.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:04 am
by whatisee
Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Good to hear...now they need to close the deal
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:17 am
by Postmaster
How about going after all of the Stoops?
Or maybe just Bob?
I'm wondering if Mike will join Bob in the unemployed catagory soon.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:24 am
by ramcat
Merkin wrote:btfd16 wrote:Idk why people are so gung ho about a Cecil or Salavea head coach.. I would love either as a DC, but would be underwhelmed if we hired them as a HC
I saw Hansen pushing Cecil, Hunley and the UCLA one game HC, forgot his name.
THERE IS A REASON THEY ARE LIFE LONG POSITION COACHES.
if no one ever game them a chance at HC, there is a reason why. You don't do this in a P5 program.
Think the UCLA guy is Jedd Fisch mentioned in article I posted earlier, don't think he's a fit but do think a young coordinator who has proved himself and has had good tutelage could work, see Kelly and Smart.
http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... =201408#19" target="_blank
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:33 am
by ramcat
Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Can you say, that it's a name that you and most would be stoked by or meh...
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:39 am
by Chicat
ramcat wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Can you say, that it's a name that you and most would be stoked by or meh...
If this happens, as with all things, some will be excited, some will be meh, a few may be unhappy. You can’t please all the people all the time.
I was pretty pleased, I’ll say that.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:40 am
by prh
Chicat wrote:ramcat wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Can you say, that it's a name that you and most would be stoked by or meh...
If this happens, as with all things, some will be excited, some will be meh, a few may be unhappy. You can’t please all the people all the time.
I was
pretty pleased, I’ll say that.
Just had to use an adjective with such a wide range, didn't you?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:43 am
by Chicat
prh wrote:Chicat wrote:ramcat wrote:Can you say, that it's a name that you and most would be stoked by or meh...
If this happens, as with all things, some will be excited, some will be meh, a few may be unhappy. You can’t please all the people all the time.
I was
pretty pleased, I’ll say that.
Just had to use an adjective with such a wide range, didn't you?
Well, it wasn’t Saban, Urban, or Pete Carroll soooooooooo.......

Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:45 am
by chiefzona
Chicat wrote:ramcat wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Can you say, that it's a name that you and most would be stoked by or meh...
If this happens, as with all things, some will be excited, some will be meh, a few may be unhappy. You can’t please all the people all the time.
I was pretty pleased, I’ll say that.
Easy there, Chief.

Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:45 am
by TheGreatCatsby
Not sure who we can hire...cupboards picked clean, I mean ASU took Herm Edwards off the market, not sure anyone is left

Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:46 am
by ramcat
Seems Chief has been pretty absent in all of this, so guessing with his mentions of Sumlin previously, that he might prefer to let all the banter go on, and then jump back in upon announcement, that he tried to let the board know, and that his inside access has been validated.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:47 am
by TatetheGreat
azgreg wrote:Chris Klieman
I'm down.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:49 am
by Chicat
chiefzona wrote:Easy there, Chief.

Easy is how I do it homie.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:50 am
by prh
Well based on Chi's prior coach opinions, I guess we can eliminate Butch Jones, Les Miles, and Major Applewhite. Eh, at least it's not Butch. Unless you're really underplaying the "pretty pleased" part
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:51 am
by btfd16
TheGreatCatsby wrote:Not sure who we can hire...cupboards picked clean, I mean ASU took Herm Edwards off the market, not sure anyone is left

Tony Dungy? Bill Cowher? The possibilities are endless! Where is Bill Parcells?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:51 am
by prh
btfd16 wrote:TheGreatCatsby wrote:Not sure who we can hire...cupboards picked clean, I mean ASU took Herm Edwards off the market, not sure anyone is left

Tony Dungy? Bill Cowher? The possibilities are endless! Where is Bill Parcells?
Hurry up quick maybe we can get Gruden
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:56 am
by AZarchery
Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:56 am
by btfd16
prh wrote:btfd16 wrote:TheGreatCatsby wrote:Not sure who we can hire...cupboards picked clean, I mean ASU took Herm Edwards off the market, not sure anyone is left

Tony Dungy? Bill Cowher? The possibilities are endless! Where is Bill Parcells?
Hurry up quick maybe we can get Gruden
Grumors!
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:57 am
by ChooChooCat
AZarchery wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
He's not a candidate for this job, he'll be lucky to be a candidate at any other job quite frankly.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:58 am
by Postmaster
How about the assistant from Minnesota ST?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:59 am
by btfd16
AZarchery wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
What has been the problem with him? I saw after teams, like Arkansas, investigated him further they backed off? Thought I read something about a possible gambling problem, but not sure.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:01 am
by AZarchery
ChooChooCat wrote:AZarchery wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
He's not a candidate for this job, he'll be lucky to be a candidate at any other job quite frankly.
That’s a great statement. Care to back it up?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:02 am
by CatsbyAZ
ChooChooCat wrote:AZarchery wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
He's not a candidate for this job, he'll be lucky to be a candidate at any other job quite frankly.
Is it a RIchRod defensive recruit?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:03 am
by CalStateTempe
btfd16 wrote:AZarchery wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
What has been the problem with him? I saw after teams, like Arkansas, investigated him further they backed off? Thought I read something about a possible gambling problem, but not sure.
Lol. Wow that would be a huge red flag if I’m an ad.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:06 am
by AZarchery
btfd16 wrote:AZarchery wrote:Chicat wrote:PHXCATS wrote:ChooChooCat wrote:There's a top target here, but it's not a done deal guys. Some hurdles still left to clear.
Name?
I was told a name. It is someone who has been mentioned here. Can’t say more than that.
Please be Norvell
What has been the problem with him? I saw after teams, like Arkansas, investigated him further they backed off? Thought I read something about a possible gambling problem, but not sure.
No idea but he seems great to me. He got the most out of Taylor Kelley and bercovicci and was a great recruiter at ASU. Memphis seems to be flourishing under him, especially qb play. He has actual Arizona recruiting experience, and isn’t a re tread. Win-win.....win
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:07 am
by btfd16
Not sure if that is true. Just remember hearing rumblings about that.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:08 am
by Gilbertcat
I want Sumlin but I got a gut feeling just now its Tedford.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:08 am
by jimson
Merkin wrote:btfd16 wrote:Idk why people are so gung ho about a Cecil or Salavea head coach.. I would love either as a DC, but would be underwhelmed if we hired them as a HC
I saw Hansen pushing Cecil, Hunley and the UCLA one game HC, forgot his name.
THERE IS A REASON THEY ARE LIFE LONG POSITION COACHES.
if no one ever game them a chance at HC, there is a reason why. You don't do this in a P5 program.
YOU JUST NEED TO DEAL WITH THE IDEA THAT OTHERS DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT.
It's OK, no need to shout.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:10 am
by btfd16
Gilbertcat wrote:I want Sumlin but I got a gut feeling just now its Tedford.
Pull out the flight tracker!!!
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:13 am
by btfd16
I would be very meh to upset with Jeff Tedford. Too old. I want fire and excitement.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:16 am
by TheGreatCatsby
If RR had any sense of U of A athletics history, he would have known triangles and the program don't mix. The "Triangle of Secrecy" was about as doomed from the start as our best team in U of A history was against the triangle and 2.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:19 am
by btfd16
Bryan Harsin? If you can't beat em, join em?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:19 am
by azpenguin
TheGreatCatsby wrote:If RR had any sense of U of A athletics history, he would have known triangles and the program don't mix. The "Triangle of Secrecy" was about as doomed from the start as our best team in U of A history was against the triangle and 2.
TOO SOON
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:22 am
by ChooChooCat
btfd16 wrote:I would be very meh to upset with Jeff Tedford. Too old. I want fire and excitement.
He's a very good coach, but he'd be an absolute blah hire that wouldn't spark any interest in the community, which is so desperately needed.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:23 am
by chiefzona
Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:25 am
by Chicat
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:26 am
by Gilbertcat
Yeah maybe its just an upset stomach

Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:29 am
by MrMeow
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
... and just what drives attendance, which of course, should make *that* his #1 priority?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:33 am
by btfd16
Chicat wrote:chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Makes me feel a lot better. With that cryptic message I have to think Sumlin. Still dreaming about Lane, but can't see that. I think us board fans are different than casual fans. Don't think the smaller school coaches (Klienman, Applewhite, Littrell, etc) would draw a casual fan to a game.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:34 am
by ProfessorFate
Chicat wrote:chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Well, I don't think hiring an ex-cat is necessarily going to drive attendance, neither are young coaches or most of the retread names being floated. To move the attendance needle, I think that leaves Sumlin or Kiffen, I'll go with Sumlin.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:35 am
by prh
btfd16 wrote:Chicat wrote:chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
That is word-for-word the first thing my friend in the AD texted me. Made me feel better immediately.
Makes me feel a lot better. With that cryptic message I have to think Sumlin. Still dreaming about Lane, but can't see that. I think us board fans are different than casual fans. Don't think the smaller school coaches (Klienman, Applewhite, Littrell, etc) would draw a casual fan to a game.
If we are only thinking attendance, I think Lane would be better. FAU received such a huge attendance increase from him (and just general excitement). Our fans are obviously different than FAU as a whole but I'd think he'd have a pretty good impact.
Not that I am guessing it's Lane or Sumlin, I'm waiting to hear from others too.
EDIT: Actually thinking more, considering we are a basketball school primarily, Kiffin seems like a good fit to make something notable of the football program.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:36 am
by Chicat
MrMeow wrote:chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
... and just what drives attendance, which of course, should make *that* his #1 priority?
A reputation for winning?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:37 am
by AZarchery
chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
Cool. So its either pimp canes and 5 star transfers every year or the guy who couldn’t win at USC.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:40 am
by Postmaster
Lane Kiffen doggin on Saban right now on Le batard 1490 am
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:41 am
by CatsbyAZ
AZarchery wrote:chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
Cool. So its either pimp canes and 5 star transfers every year or the guy who couldn’t win at USC.

Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:42 am
by CalStateTempe
It’s be fun to have Joey freshwater in toos, if only for 3/4 years.
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:46 am
by MrMeow
Chicat wrote:MrMeow wrote:chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
... and just what drives attendance, which of course, should make *that* his #1 priority?
A reputation for winning?
In the short term perhaps, like his first season. For the long term doesn't it come down to just winning?
Re: Arizona Coaching Search
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:47 am
by AZarchery
CatsbyAZ wrote:AZarchery wrote:chiefzona wrote:Just remember that Heeke’s number one priority is attendance.
Cool. So its either pimp canes and 5 star transfers every year or the guy who couldn’t win at USC.

Yup. I’d rather have a young gun proving himself than a re tread.