Bear Down Wildcats

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:52 pm**

Alieberman wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:49 pm I don’t got annoyed with your tweets Odogg

You say what you mean

I know Ari. The mute button was a godsend for my followers.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:51 am**

Someone mispronounced mystery. It was misery candidates.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:38 am**

The crazy thing to me is we are a better BB program than TX and yet they hired a head coach with ff experience in 4 days. We've had 40 and yet here we are fumbling this shit up again. Can we hire a competent AD please?

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:59 am**

84Cat wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:38 am The crazy thing to me is we are a better BB program than TX and yet they hired a head coach with ff experience in 4 days. We've had 40 and yet here we are fumbling this shit up again. Can we hire a competent AD please?

Texas has a lot more money than we do my friend. We can't afford 5 a year. We weren't even paying miller 3. We just don't got the cash they do

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:23 am**

BeardownZonaZona wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:59 am
84Cat wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:38 am The crazy thing to me is we are a better BB program than TX and yet they hired a head coach with ff experience in 4 days. We've had 40 and yet here we are fumbling this shit up again. Can we hire a competent AD please?
Texas has a lot more money than we do my friend. We can't afford 5 a year. We weren't even paying miller 3. We just don't got the cash they do

Not when you're paying a guy like Sumlin millions to go away for the worst three years in Arizona football history.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:39 am**

That's definitely part of the reason. Pac 12 not making a ton or revenue compared to other conferences doesn't help. And the az government just doesn't have a lot cash either. As someone who has lived in Texas before, it's very apparent the Texas government has a lot more money. And university of texas has a ton of big time donors. Unfortunately many factors are the reason we can't outbid some of these other schools

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:53 am**

I think oil had something to do with that.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:35 am**

UAEebs86 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:26 pm Mystery candidate:

Total flashback. Gawd.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:40 am**

It's too bad April fool's has past. I'd really like to see the Bobby Hurley, Steve Lavin, Christian Laetner, types of names mentioned.

Maybe we can get Mike Davis. He has experience in a similar shituation.

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/bask ... -ago-today

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:45 am**

Marvin Menzies is out of the running for UTEP. He seems like Robbins’ kind of guy.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:59 pm**

Not Bryce not Scott, not Homer but Nancy Drew
She is the real mystery candidate

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:39 pm**

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:46 am**

I’m laughing so that I don’t cry. But Muss is getting an extension because he played Robbins like a fiddle. This administration is incompetent. Literally couldn’t make their way through a rat maze. I wouldn’t blame Lloyd one bit if he backs out after seeing these morons jerk each other off.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:21 am**

Is there is a little-known codicil in the Faber College constitution which gives "us" unlimited power to preserve order in time of campus emergency around our flagship sports program?

This is certainly an emergency...

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:17 am**

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:46 am I’m laughing so that I don’t cry. But Muss is getting an extension because he played Robbins like a fiddle. This administration is incompetent. Literally couldn’t make their way through a rat maze. I wouldn’t blame Lloyd one bit if he backs out after seeing these morons jerk each other off.

Muss was going to get an extension without Arizona's help. He may have got a better deal now but it was happening regardless.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:35 am**

azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:17 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:46 am I’m laughing so that I don’t cry. But Muss is getting an extension because he played Robbins like a fiddle. This administration is incompetent. Literally couldn’t make their way through a rat maze. I wouldn’t blame Lloyd one bit if he backs out after seeing these morons jerk each other off.
Muss was going to get an extension without Arizona's help. He may have got a better deal now but it was happening regardless.

Okay so he got a BIGGER extension. Either way...he was obviously playing Robbins. Robbins fell for it like a baby who’s dad says “I got your nose”. In the process of this, he may have soured this with Tommy to the point he may not accept an offer if/when we ask him to be the coach.

These clowns have to go.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:00 am**

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 am**

Goodman can eat a sack of shit

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:11 am**

Oh, NOW he's an Arizona alum? After decades of shitting all over us he wants to claim us?

Go stick your dick in a blender Mush Mouth.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:13 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 am Goodman can eat a sack of shit

So who you got O'dogg?

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:13 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 am Goodman can eat a sack of shit

I get the feeling on Goodman but do I read this right that you're not a fan of Pope?

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:16 am**

Eh. It’s just about Goodman. But Pope doesn’t get me aroused.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:19 am**

Gilbert Arenas.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:20 am**

84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:13 am
Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 am Goodman can eat a sack of shit
So who you got O'dogg?

They should offer Lloyd ASAP.

Then they should offer Damon if that falls through.

If you don’t like either option fine, but you won’t like any of the other options either. They aren’t getting someone you want.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:20 am**

Bobby Bobbins keeps refreshing this thread to see if we have any suggestions.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:24 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:20 am
84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:13 am
Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 am Goodman can eat a sack of shit
So who you got O'dogg?
They should offer Lloyd ASAP.

Then they should offer Damon if that falls through.

If you don’t like either option fine, but you won’t like any of the other options either. They aren’t getting someone you want.

Yep. The having a candidate pool of guys you love ship has long since sailed. I mean that was out the second anyone with a brain saw Robbins Few/ Beard/ Drew list. So here we are.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:41 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:16 am Eh. It’s just about Goodman. But Pope doesn’t get me aroused.

Pope's not exciting, but he's at least solid.

He's better than Damon, Miles or Braase, that's for sure. Lloyd is a mystery box, so who knows there.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:43 am**

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:41 am
Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:16 am Eh. It’s just about Goodman. But Pope doesn’t get me aroused.
Pope's not exciting, but he's at least solid.

He's better than Damon, Miles or Braase, that's for sure. Lloyd is a mystery box, so who knows there.

I’m not as down on Damon as others are. I think that could be end up being good for a number of reasons as well. But I get ya.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am**

Pope strikes me as the guy who gives you a winning season every year. Challenges for the conference title every once in a while and gets a 5-9 seed every year.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:51 am**

At some point they will just go with the alums. Damon is the best option when they do that. I don’t think it’s even a debate IMO.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:52 am**

Ask yourself a question: Who are the top two coaches each Arizona sport has had. How many of them were alums?

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:53 am**

"In the time when most kings went out to recruiting war, the court jester of Arizona Robbins stabbed the king in the back and threw his corpse over the wall, then stayed home and looked over the housetops longingly at Batshitcrazy and said 'Who is that maiden, bring her to me'"...

Robbins is fucking batshitcrazy

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am**

azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am Pope strikes me as the guy who gives you a winning season every year. Challenges for the conference title every once in a while and gets a 5-9 seed every year.

This is how I see Pope vs Damon specifically. Both took over losing programs (I'm using Utah Valley here). I'd say Utah Valley and Pacific are comparable.

Damon had 3 sub .500 seasons, improved a lot in year 4, although not enough to get to a tourney, then returned to .500 in year 5.

Pope improved every single year at Utah Valley, ending with 23-11 and 25-10 seasons. His win% was .579 to Damon's .480. Then, Pope went on to two good seasons at BYU.

Pope's small school performance was better than Damon's, plus he has the BYU experience.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am**

azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:52 am Ask yourself a question: Who are the top two coaches each Arizona sport has had. How many of them were alums?

Adia is alone on an island.

I get what you are saying, but when you are served a shit sandwich, focus on finding the kernels of corn.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:57 am**

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am
azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am Pope strikes me as the guy who gives you a winning season every year. Challenges for the conference title every once in a while and gets a 5-9 seed every year.
This is how I see Pope vs Damon specifically. Both took over losing programs (I'm using Utah Valley here). I'd say Utah Valley and Pacific are comparable.

Damon had 3 sub .500 seasons, improved a lot in year 4, although not enough to get to a tourney, then returned to .500 in year 5.

Pope improved every single year at Utah Valley, ending with 23-11 and 25-10 seasons. His win% was .579 to Damon's .480. Then, Pope went on to two good seasons at BYU.

Pope's small school performance was better than Damon's, plus he has the BYU experience.

I don’t know much about Utah valley vs. pacific but I read that Damon took over a disaster.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:59 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am
azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:52 am Ask yourself a question: Who are the top two coaches each Arizona sport has had. How many of them were alums?
Adia is alone on an island.

I get what you are saying, but when you are served a shit sandwich, focus on finding the kernels of corn.

For me the only time the alumni card comes into play is as a tie breaker.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:00 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:57 am
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am
azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am Pope strikes me as the guy who gives you a winning season every year. Challenges for the conference title every once in a while and gets a 5-9 seed every year.
This is how I see Pope vs Damon specifically. Both took over losing programs (I'm using Utah Valley here). I'd say Utah Valley and Pacific are comparable.

Damon had 3 sub .500 seasons, improved a lot in year 4, although not enough to get to a tourney, then returned to .500 in year 5.

Pope improved every single year at Utah Valley, ending with 23-11 and 25-10 seasons. His win% was .579 to Damon's .480. Then, Pope went on to two good seasons at BYU.

Pope's small school performance was better than Damon's, plus he has the BYU experience.
I don’t know much about Utah valley vs. pacific but I read that Damon took over a disaster.

Pacific was 8-20, UVU 11-19 in the respective years before Damon and Pope came in. Both programs had been over .500 and slid.

To be clear, this is based on basketball reference and I am not a UVU or Pacific insider, but they at least seem like they were somewhat comparable in the state of their programs.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:01 am**

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:00 am
Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:57 am
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am
azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am Pope strikes me as the guy who gives you a winning season every year. Challenges for the conference title every once in a while and gets a 5-9 seed every year.
This is how I see Pope vs Damon specifically. Both took over losing programs (I'm using Utah Valley here). I'd say Utah Valley and Pacific are comparable.

Damon had 3 sub .500 seasons, improved a lot in year 4, although not enough to get to a tourney, then returned to .500 in year 5.

Pope improved every single year at Utah Valley, ending with 23-11 and 25-10 seasons. His win% was .579 to Damon's .480. Then, Pope went on to two good seasons at BYU.

Pope's small school performance was better than Damon's, plus he has the BYU experience.
I don’t know much about Utah valley vs. pacific but I read that Damon took over a disaster.
Pacific was 8-20, UVU 11-19 in the respective years before Damon and Pope came in. Both programs had been over .500 and slid.

To be clear, this is based on basketball reference and I am not a UVU or Pacific insider, but they at least seem like they were somewhat comparable in the state of their programs.

I wanna say pacific had some ncaa issues before but I’m lazy and not gonna do research.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:04 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:57 am
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am
azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am Pope strikes me as the guy who gives you a winning season every year. Challenges for the conference title every once in a while and gets a 5-9 seed every year.
This is how I see Pope vs Damon specifically. Both took over losing programs (I'm using Utah Valley here). I'd say Utah Valley and Pacific are comparable.

Damon had 3 sub .500 seasons, improved a lot in year 4, although not enough to get to a tourney, then returned to .500 in year 5.

Pope improved every single year at Utah Valley, ending with 23-11 and 25-10 seasons. His win% was .579 to Damon's .480. Then, Pope went on to two good seasons at BYU.

Pope's small school performance was better than Damon's, plus he has the BYU experience.
I don’t know much about Utah valley vs. pacific but I read that Damon took over a disaster.

Looks like Pope was their 2nd ever coach. Before him was Dick Hunsaker who went 205-153, 46-26 with one CIT and one NIT. Pope went 44-15, 23-6 with three CIBs.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:14 am**

Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:01 am
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:00 am
Olsondogg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:57 am
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am
azgreg wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am Pope strikes me as the guy who gives you a winning season every year. Challenges for the conference title every once in a while and gets a 5-9 seed every year.
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This is how I see Pope vs Damon specifically. Both took over losing programs (I'm using Utah Valley here). I'd say Utah Valley and Pacific are comparable.

Damon had 3 sub .500 seasons, improved a lot in year 4, although not enough to get to a tourney, then returned to .500 in year 5.

Pope improved every single year at Utah Valley, ending with 23-11 and 25-10 seasons. His win% was .579 to Damon's .480. Then, Pope went on to two good seasons at BYU.

Pope's small school performance was better than Damon's, plus he has the BYU experience.
I don’t know much about Utah valley vs. pacific but I read that Damon took over a disaster.
Pacific was 8-20, UVU 11-19 in the respective years before Damon and Pope came in. Both programs had been over .500 and slid.

To be clear, this is based on basketball reference and I am not a UVU or Pacific insider, but they at least seem like they were somewhat comparable in the state of their programs.
I wanna say pacific had some ncaa issues before but I’m lazy and not gonna do research.

They were on probation, with scholarship limits and recruiting limits. Their former head coach got an 8 year show cause (Miller’s not looking at a show cause). That actually is a plus in Damon’s favor to me, in that he’s already figured out how to navigate NCAA sanctions at a place like Pacific.

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/file ... 170920.pdf

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:37 am**

Is it Wes Miller time? I'd be down with that

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:42 am**

12 realistic guys I would take before Damon with minimal research:
Darian Devries
Wes Miller
Mark Pope
Shantay Legans
Bob Richey
Dennis Gates
Jay Pastenack
Lorenzo Romar
Kelvin Sampson
John Belien
Bryce Drew
Tommy Lloyd

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:08 am**

I know Pacific is Pacific, and Gonzaga is Gonzaga, but the closest a Damon coached team ever got to the Zags was 10 points. The rest were blowouts. Cats need someone who can beat UCLA and Oregon and not be their bitch like Miller was.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:16 am**

Wilner & Wolken now piling on about incompetence. Good times

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:32 am**

84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:16 am Wilner & Wolken now piling on about incompetence. Good times

First step in avoiding that is not to make it true. We've failed that first step.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:44 am**

84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:16 am Wilner & Wolken now piling on about incompetence. Good times

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:47 am**

Merkin wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:44 am
84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:16 am Wilner & Wolken now piling on about incompetence. Good times

This one too now

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:52 am**

Merkin wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:44 am
84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:16 am Wilner & Wolken now piling on about incompetence. Good times

So is when he says 1:51 pm, is that Eastern, Central, Mountain or Pacific time?

Just wondering...

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:34 pm**

Pretty sure it’s est.
The other day I saw a post from the future

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:43 pm**

84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:47 am
Merkin wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:44 am
84Cat wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:16 am Wilner & Wolken now piling on about incompetence. Good times

This one too now

Can't sanction a coach if you have no coach.

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