Coaching Searches 2015

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:51 am

Salty wrote:I remember reading that one of the reasons Casteel was willing to leave WVU in the first place was because RR promised to groom him into a head coach.

I'd ask you to link this, but I know you can't.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:01 am

Salty wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Salty wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
Salty wrote:

Luckily, I don't think RR is going to leave.

But to play devils advocate... Who would Byrne hire?

Remember... The current roster and recruiting class have 3-3-5 players... A move back to 4-3 would mean 3 or 4 horrible years of defense and a rebuild.
What in Byrne's last two coaching searches (Mullen, RR) makes you think he would settle for promoting a coordinator?
Mullen was a coordinator. RR was considered damaged goods.
Sure am glad we'll never find out how wrong you are Salty.
I heard a media guy say on the radio he doesn't think Casteel
even wants to be a head coach.

He's not HC material IMO. Too easy going. Doesn't like to travel for recruiting. Perfect where he is.

And Byrne did a thorough search before he decided on Mullen and RR. He didn't just promote from within. Guess he should have hired Tim Kish. He beat ASU, didn't he?
I remember reading that one of the reasons Casteel was willing to leave WVU in the first place was because RR promised to groom him into a head coach.

That is 100% absolutely completely not true. It is actually the complete opposite. Casteel has no desire whatsoever to be a Head Coach at this level.

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:06 am

azcat49 wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:les miles to Michigan. RR to lsu

If that happens (re miles), Gundy is going to LSU..

Gundy wants out. I'm pretty surprised Michigan and UF seem to have no interest. He's been a good coach, he just lost a starting QB this year and Daxx Garman is hot garbage.

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:34 am

Nebraska isn't taking calls anymore, seems they have their guy.

Greg Schiano? Probably has to be someone out of coaching.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:37 am

Tressell

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:11 am

Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:I remember reading that one of the reasons Casteel was willing to leave WVU in the first place was because RR promised to groom him into a head coach.
I'd ask you to link this, but I know you can't.

It was on TOS.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:14 am

Salty wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:I remember reading that one of the reasons Casteel was willing to leave WVU in the first place was because RR promised to groom him into a head coach.
I'd ask you to link this, but I know you can't.
It was on TOS.

Great, go find it so we can see the strong evidence you've based this indisputable knowledge on.

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:17 am

Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:I remember reading that one of the reasons Casteel was willing to leave WVU in the first place was because RR promised to groom him into a head coach.
I'd ask you to link this, but I know you can't.
It was on TOS.
Great, go find it so we can see the strong evidence you've based this indisputable knowledge on.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:17 am

Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:I remember reading that one of the reasons Casteel was willing to leave WVU in the first place was because RR promised to groom him into a head coach.
I'd ask you to link this, but I know you can't.
It was on TOS.
Great, go find it so we can see the strong evidence you've based this indisputable knowledge on.

Too much effort.

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:24 am

Salty wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:I remember reading that one of the reasons Casteel was willing to leave WVU in the first place was because RR promised to groom him into a head coach.
I'd ask you to link this, but I know you can't.
It was on TOS.
Great, go find it so we can see the strong evidence you've based this indisputable knowledge on.
Too much effort.

Tough to see that one coming.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:40 am

Salty is the greatest troll these boards have ever seen.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:11 pm

Salty just admitted he's dumber than the search feature at TOS.

Good thing I'm not. Martavious22 mentions it here with no evidence beyond his own unnamed sources:
http://forum.goazcats.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=366

And here you are beating that drum . . . and everyone else beating you with it (starts on page 9 if your settings are for 40 posts per page):
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?p=2213634

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:44 pm

Chicat wrote:Salty just admitted he's dumber than the search feature at TOS.

Good thing I'm not. Martavious22 mentions it here with no evidence beyond his own unnamed sources:
http://forum.goazcats.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=366

And here you are beating that drum . . . and everyone else beating you with it (starts on page 9 if your settings are for 40 posts per page):
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?p=2213634

Nice find.

Thanks for doing the work for me!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:46 pm

Dude, you have been on a whole new level the last few days.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:56 pm

azgreg wrote:Dude, you have been on a whole new level the last few days.

I bet.

So if RR were to leave, who would replace him?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:57 pm

Salty wrote:
Chicat wrote:Salty just admitted he's dumber than the search feature at TOS.

Good thing I'm not. Martavious22 mentions it here with no evidence beyond his own unnamed sources:
http://forum.goazcats.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=366

And here you are beating that drum . . . and everyone else beating you with it (starts on page 9 if your settings are for 40 posts per page):
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?p=2213634
Nice find.

Thanks for doing the work for me!

You're thanking me for proving that you take hard line stances on things you have no real clue on with zero hard evidence?

Uh... you're welcome I guess.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:00 pm

Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:
Chicat wrote:Salty just admitted he's dumber than the search feature at TOS.

Good thing I'm not. Martavious22 mentions it here with no evidence beyond his own unnamed sources:
http://forum.goazcats.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=366

And here you are beating that drum . . . and everyone else beating you with it (starts on page 9 if your settings are for 40 posts per page):
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?p=2213634
Nice find.

Thanks for doing the work for me!
You're thanking me for proving that you take hard line stances on things you have no real clue on with zero hard evidence?

Uh... you're welcome I guess.

At least it was based on something. Plus, I was hardly taking a "hard line".

It's better than "oh, I'm sure Byrne wouldn't do that yet I have absolutely no clue". Get a grip.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:05 pm

Every post you've ever made has been based on you having no clue.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:08 pm

Salty wrote:
azgreg wrote:Dude, you have been on a whole new level the last few days.
I bet.

So if RR were to leave, who would replace him?

I'm going with the ghost of Vince Lombardi.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:10 pm

Chicat wrote:Every post you've ever made has been based on you having no clue.

My posting strategy-

Make a point.

If Salty disagrees- feel confident in your opinion

If Salty agrees- rethink your opinion (or just assume that Salty misread what you wrote)

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:13 pm

Chicat wrote:Every post you've ever made has been based on you having no clue.

My gosh this board has been taking things personally recently.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:15 pm

Salty wrote:
azgreg wrote:Dude, you have been on a whole new level the last few days.
I bet.

So if RR were to leave, who would replace him?

The best candidate for the job.

AKA - not Casteel

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:19 pm

Chicat wrote:
Salty wrote:
azgreg wrote:Dude, you have been on a whole new level the last few days.
I bet.

So if RR were to leave, who would replace him?
The best candidate for the job.

AKA - not Casteel

What's the problem with Casteel...

Knows the program, staff, players...

Improved every year.

Same system.

Remember, this is Arizona. We're not gonna go out and hire Urban Meyer. Our best bet would be to take a chance on a coordinator like Byrne did at Miss State.

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:26 pm

Salty wrote:Remember, this is Arizona. We're not gonna go out and hire Urban Meyer.

Actually at this moment...it's not particularly clear to me which coach had a better year, Urban or Rich. So...

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:37 pm

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:46 pm

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:14 pm

azgreg wrote:

Bielema is college football's biggest douche if he makes that move.

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:20 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Bielema is college football's biggest douche if he makes that move.

Why?

He is actually my hero....

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:35 pm

Will Bo Pelini be coaching next season?

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:41 pm

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:47 pm

the real dill wrote:

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:14 pm

the real dill wrote:

Is this one of those photoshop tweet things you do?

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:20 pm

UofAlum05 wrote:
the real dill wrote:
Is this one of those photoshop tweet things you do?

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:13 pm

McElwain has a $7.5M buyout at CSU? He should fire his agent right now.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... story.html

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:23 pm

the real dill wrote:McElwain has a $7.5M buyout at CSU? He should fire his agent right now.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... story.html

7.5 is nuts.

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:36 pm

Foley's already getting negative feedback from the search

http://www.si.com/college-football/2014 ... m-mcelwain

Ten years to the day of White’s ill-fated trip to Salt Lake City [to hire Urban Meyer], Foley’s voyage to Fort Collins unfolded like a bungled modern coaching search, with fans and journalists live tweeting along the way. Foley waited a year too long to fire Muschamp and then proceeded to run a search without the same discretion and aggressiveness that allowed him to outfox Notre Dame a decade ago. We’ll reserve judgment on McElwain for what he does on the field. But the lost 2014 season at Florida and squandered opportunities for Foley to hire a more established and bigger name coach shows just how far he and the Gators have fallen.

How has Foley messed up things in the last decade? Let us count the ways. Start with the candidates Foley likely could have lured to Gainesville. There are four coaches with better track records and decisively more potential that Foley missed or ignored. The timing of Foley’s firing of Muschamp cost him a shot at Charlie Strong and James Franklin last year. For reasons that are still unclear, Foley ruled out Rich Rodriguez and Dan Mullen before this search even began. The result is the rest of the SEC snickering at Foley, who has two football flops -- Ron Zook and Muschamp -- and a Hall of Famer (Meyer) on his track record. McElwain deserves a shot, but there aren’t a lot of signs that he’s the next Meyer.

When this coaching search came around, Florida’s strangest maneuver came when it leaked to ESPN the day Muschamp got fired that it wouldn’t be pursuing Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen or Arizona’s Rich Rodriguez. This would have been fine if the Gators hired Bob Stoops or Chip Kelly, but in retrospect it appeared like Foley was setting a low bar. There’s been no good reason given for both those coaches not being considered, and few competent athletic directors would choose McElwain over Mullen or Rodriguez. (If the narrative of a blue blood school passing on Rodriguez for an obscure Mountain West coach sounds familiar, ask Michigan how that worked out.)

The decision to rule out Rodriguez may come back to haunt Foley the most. While Rodriguez had NCAA issues at Michigan and clashed with the administration, he’s been a model coach at Arizona and his offensive ingenuity would be embraced along with his down-home personality. When Foley ruled out Rodriguez and Mullen for the job, the SEC let out a collective sigh of relief. If Foley hires McElwain, there will be high fives of celebration, as the move looms as intimidating as a Powder Puff prevent defense. (Can't you imagine Steve Spurrier already getting his one-liners ready for media day?)

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:47 pm

Salty wrote:
the real dill wrote:McElwain has a $7.5M buyout at CSU? He should fire his agent right now.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... story.html
7.5 is nuts.

The AD has said they'd waive it for his dream job.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:07 pm

azgreg wrote:
Salty wrote:
the real dill wrote:McElwain has a $7.5M buyout at CSU? He should fire his agent right now.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... story.html
7.5 is nuts.
The AD has said they'd waive it for his dream job.

This is true. It's called the Todd Graham clause.

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:56 pm

Bruce Feldman ‏ @ BruceFeldmanCFB 17m17 minutes ago
Will Muschamp deal to # Auburn getting closer but still some staffing issue needs to be smoothed out, per source.

Coop Cat · Post by **Coop Cat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:58 pm

Muschamp back to Auburn makes tons of sense. Was hearing on College Sports Radio that it was pretty much there or South Carolina.

Foley is either going to look really smart if he gets his guy or really dumb if he passes after all the press it involved. I will say the pics of Foley at the residence looking out the window that were on twitter were super creepy and a bit too much. I also love that CSU is not backing down on the buyout. The buyouts are there for a reason. You want their guy then you are going to have to pay it.

If the Bielma to Nebraska turns out to be true that would be 3 major big time jobs in 4 years. However, I think his style fits much better at Nebraska than Arkansas.

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:23 pm

Colorado State's Jim McElwain wants to be Florida's coach. And the Gators desperately want McElwain as their coach.

There's one huge problem: CSU is not budging on McElwain's $7.5 million buyout, and Florida refuses to pay the entire amount, sources said Wednesday night.

"At this point, any potential deal is on hold until there's some sort of resolution with the buyout issue," a source said.

If Colorado State president Tony Frank doesn't agree to a lower buyout, Florida officials are "pessimistic" the deal will get done, sources said.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... ams-buyout

Oh.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:00 am

So much for those earlier reports on the buyout huh?

Catstatic · Post by **Catstatic** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:37 am

Watching how things are going at both Michigan and Florida makes me appreciate the way GB handled the football coach firing/hiring all the more. Don't know if I would trade GB, SM or RR for any other AD/coach in the country. It is a GREAT time to be a Wildcat!!

Go Cats!!

azthrillhouse · Post by **azthrillhouse** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:28 am

azgreg wrote:So much for those earlier reports on the buyout huh?

The leak quoted above looked like the most transparent attempt to negotiate through the media I've ever seen.

CSU had all the cards....Foley locked in on Mac and had no leverage. And while I'm laughing at UF....I'm glad they have their man.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:33 am

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:41 am

azgreg wrote:

Weird deal. I'm interested to know who blinked.

The deal had been hung up before Thursday morning as Colorado State refused to budge on McElwain's $7.5 million buyout and Florida had refused to pay the entire amount. It is unclear at this point if Florida agreed to pay the full buyout amount of the schools settled on a smaller amount.

https://espn.go.com/college-football/st ... tors-coach

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:58 am

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:00 am

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:05 am

CSU players found out he was officially gone on TV.

Why didn't he just text it like Cracker did?

Coop Cat · Post by **Coop Cat** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:08 am

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