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Longhorned wrote:
BearDown89 wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Way to cook it up, BearDown89! Mass-produced foods are totally a legit cooking ingredient.

As for the huitlacoche, it's a food for everybody, not just an adventurous travel eater like BearDown89. It isn't strange, you don't have to "develop a taste for it", and it isn't sophisticated. It's just straight-on one of the great foods you've never tried. It's directly in everyone's taste profile already, at the level of comfort food.
Where do you find it? I'm certain the Albertson's here isn't going to have it in the produce section. Mexican market? Several of those around. Then how did you prep it? Just chop it up and sautee and use it like any old taco/quesadilla/burrito filling with fixins'?
That's a big question, BD. I usually just back into success while in the wrong gear, so I found it offered at a taqueria in Champaign, Illinois. I'd always thought I'd have to try it while traveling in Mexico, and all of the sudden there it was, and without any fanfare. The owners moved here from Mexico City, but they get their huitlacoche locally from corn farmers. Even everyday gardeners are "unfortunate" enough to encounter the "blight". My understanding is that you can buy it canned from Mexican grocers, and supposedly it's great canned, but I don't know anything about that. Either way, my understanding is that you saute it with garlic and onions.

I'm not sure what to do about it in Idaho, but on your next visit to Tucson it must exist. How could it be in Champaign and not Tucson? We didn't even get our first Mexican restaurant until 2009, and our first grocery in 2010. I suspect it's all over the place in Nogales.
Negative. I even went to my local carniceria just to double check yesterday because they carry Herdez.

Huitalcoche is Chilango (Southern Mexico) food. You're not going to find it in Sonora especially. Most Sonoritas wouldn't be caught dead eating it. Mostly has to do with Sonora not being a traditional corn growing region. In Sonora flour is/was king, with quite a few of the prominent family's in Sonora (my wife's family included) owing their roots and fortunes in having the first big Flour mills in the country. It's almost a pride thing.

Not so much recently, but up to a few years years ago waiters/waitresses would shake their head disapprovingly if you ordered flour tortillas instead of Corn south of Navajoa. Huitalcoche being a corn product gets taken along for the ride in this situation.

Northern mexicans dont like Southern mexicans and Vice versa. It stems from all the industry and heavy agriculture ($$$$$) being in the North, and all the lazy politicos in the South mooching them dry.
Whatever the case, Northern Mexicans hate "guachos" and it has bled into cuisine :D .

I guess tortillas is a strange way of drawing a line in the sand, but there it is. And a little bit of an explanation of why you wont find Huitalcoche in Sonoran territory.
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I'm totally excited about my new terracotta smoker project, Gato. Thanks for that.

I've always been aware of the flour and cattle ranching heritage of Sonora and its impact on Sonoran food (which I love and miss, BTW), but the ideological division you're describing is something I didn't appreciate until your explanation this morning, and a documentary I watched just last night on Netflix: Spinning Plates, which includes a Mexico City restaurant in Tucson, La Cocina de Gaby, which failed and closed. The cook, Gaby from Mexico City, experiments with floor tortillas, and her immigrant husband does his best to tolerate it. But for the most part she cooks in her family's traditions. I went on Yelp to read people's reviews, and it sounds like the food was just too foreign for southern Arizonans. So yeah, maybe it's actually easier for central and southern Mexicans to bring huitlacoche to the maize-growing Midwest than it is to Tucson.
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Longhorned wrote:I'm totally excited about my new terracotta smoker project, Gato. Thanks for that.

I've always been aware of the flour and cattle ranching heritage of Sonora and its impact on Sonoran food (which I love and miss, BTW), but the ideological division you're describing is something I didn't appreciate until your explanation this morning, and a documentary I watched just last night on Netflix: Spinning Plates, which includes a Mexico City restaurant in Tucson, La Cocina de Gaby, which failed and closed. The cook, Gaby from Mexico City, experiments with floor tortillas, and her immigrant husband does his best to tolerate it. But for the most part she cooks in her family's traditions. I went on Yelp to read people's reviews, and it sounds like the food was just too foreign for southern Arizonans. So yeah, maybe it's actually easier for central and southern Mexicans to bring huitlacoche to the maize-growing Midwest than it is to Tucson.
I new that project would be up your ally.

Just remember that some hot plates have a temperature regulator that may not allow the unit to work to capacity when in a confined space. I rewired mine so just the heating coils are in the flower pot and the unit and wiring are on the outside (not that hard. I have 0 electrical skills). Ugly, but works and I can turn the temp up and down from the outside now.

Mine seems to hold 200-220 degrees pretty well, and the beauty is that it's constant, and you will get to the point where you know exactly how long everything takes to cook. Just plug it in and occasionally check on it to see if you need to add any woodchips.

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awesome gato...i think i'm going to do that smoker project as well. love it. where did you pick up the terra cotta pots? and what heating element do you use?
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Yeah, good stuff Gato, both on the corn/flour stuff and this terra cotta smoker deal. I've several large unused pots right now. I'll look it up. Post links if you find some guys.
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BearDown89 wrote:Yeah, good stuff Gato, both on the corn/flour stuff and this terra cotta smoker deal. I've several large unused pots right now. I'll look it up. Post links if you find some guys.
saw this one

http://www.smokedmeattreat.com/50-alton ... ot-smoker/
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This thread has me purchasing lamb for tomorrow night.

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Anyone have a good, easy, lamb shank recipe that doesn't require a whole pantry's worth of ingredients?

I'm out of my house and willing to purchase some but every recipe I've found has lists of like 15-20 ingredients.

If not, I'm thinking braised in the oven with salt, pepper, minced garlic, and a bit of red wine...Will that work?
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CalStateTempe wrote:Anyone have a good, easy, lamb shank recipe that doesn't require a whole pantry's worth of ingredients?

I'm out of my house and willing to purchase some but every recipe I've found has lists of like 15-20 ingredients.

If not, I'm thinking braised in the oven with salt, pepper, minced garlic, and a bit of red wine...Will that work?
Yes. And you're free to braise that in the oven or on the stove top. Either way. If you make slits into the meet and stuff the slits, it will be even better. Using your best judgement, you mix together garlic, fresh rosemary (or not), olive oil, salt, pepper, and anchovy. That's what you stuff into those slits with your finger, and then rub the remainder all over the outside of the shank. And if you discover that you have some white wine to use instead of red, just as well.
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Last night of Lent: Penne with yellowtail tuna sashimi, onions, toasted pine nuts, olives, capers, lemon zest, and fish sauce (garum).
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Longhorned wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Anyone have a good, easy, lamb shank recipe that doesn't require a whole pantry's worth of ingredients?

I'm out of my house and willing to purchase some but every recipe I've found has lists of like 15-20 ingredients.

If not, I'm thinking braised in the oven with salt, pepper, minced garlic, and a bit of red wine...Will that work?
Yes. And you're free to braise that in the oven or on the stove top. Either way. If you make slits into the meet and stuff the slits, it will be even better. Using your best judgement, you mix together garlic, fresh rosemary (or not), olive oil, salt, pepper, and anchovy. That's what you stuff into those slits with your finger, and then rub the remainder all over the outside of the shank. And if you discover that you have some white wine to use instead of red, just as well.
Thanks LH!

Love the anchovy idea, thats perfect.
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CalStateTempe wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Anyone have a good, easy, lamb shank recipe that doesn't require a whole pantry's worth of ingredients?

I'm out of my house and willing to purchase some but every recipe I've found has lists of like 15-20 ingredients.

If not, I'm thinking braised in the oven with salt, pepper, minced garlic, and a bit of red wine...Will that work?
Yes. And you're free to braise that in the oven or on the stove top. Either way. If you make slits into the meet and stuff the slits, it will be even better. Using your best judgement, you mix together garlic, fresh rosemary (or not), olive oil, salt, pepper, and anchovy. That's what you stuff into those slits with your finger, and then rub the remainder all over the outside of the shank. And if you discover that you have some white wine to use instead of red, just as well.
Thanks LH!

Love the anchovy idea, thats perfect.
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As I am an armchair/historian sociologist in matters of food, isn't great to contemplate and research the origins of the delicacies that make it to the table. I can imagine how exciting cooking is for you giving your work.
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I'm having a Tucson night.

Grilled Skirt Steak w/ horseradishy avocado mayo
Grilled Asparagus w/ Grarlicky Brown Butter

Watching night desend on the Valley listening to Calexico and James McMurtry (went to U of A).

Drinking a Shiner Bock..... I know, it's from TX.
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Roast lamb shoulder
French fries
Arugula salad

Chocolate Easter bunny
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My wife just asked what Merkin is making for dinner tonight.
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As a general rule, I only make meals I can pronounce. Even though I can pronounce lamb, I don't like the taste. Or maybe I can't: /læm/

So pork shoulder it is!

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Smoked a pork butt. Made pulled pork sandwiches with an "eastern carolina" vinegar-based bbq sauce. Turned out perfect. And the thermapen instant read thermometer is worth its weight in gold. Nice being able to take a temperature in five different locations of the butt in less than 10 seconds combined

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^ what I'm hoping for. Pork butt is acutally pork shoulder as probably everyone here knows.

Very cool claws btw.
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*inspired*
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Longhorned wrote:Roast lamb shoulder
French fries
Arugula salad

Chocolate Easter bunny
If you ever get a chance, follow Marcella Hazan's recipe for Easter lamb. Best lamb I've ever had. The wife thought it was "holy shit".
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Lamb Shank with recipe as above.
Homemade 4 cheese ravioli
Homemade pesto
Gascon Malbec
Fresh french bread from down the street french cafe
Fresh greens with basalmic and olive oil.

Neapolitan and Chocolate Mouse brownie dessert from Kafe Leopold

Sublime.
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Ate so much at lunch that I'm skipping dinner. I'm like Thanksgiving Day full.
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Typical Easter, but I made homemade au gratin potatoes to go with my oven roasted ham, soaked in a pineapple/honey/mustard/bourbon glaze which I make by slow cooking all ingredients and veggie stock down for hours in a sugar-burned boiling pan. Gives a rich, hard sweetness to the glaze.
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Lunch was at my favorite DC restaurant: Kafe Leopold. Its a trip to Zurich/Vienna at mere fraction of the price.

Poached eggs over avocado pumpernickel toast. German bacon with roasted tomato. Cafe Au Lait, the best of the coffee espresso drinks.

Then took a walk about Georgetown. Victoria dropped her stuffed bunny rabbit (her favorite stuffed animal) out of the stroller and we noticed when we returned to the car. I took off to retrace steps and found it sitting on a smart tony Georgetown porch.

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Merkin wrote:^ what I'm hoping for. Pork butt is acutally pork shoulder as probably everyone here knows.

Very cool claws btw.
Thank you sir. They save your hands from the heat and work much better than two forks. How'd your butt turn out? I tried something new and mixed apple and hickory woods. Saw it on recommended on a bbq forum and It gave the perfect flavor. My wife really likes my bbq but this was the first time she acted like she was having an orgasm when she was eating it.
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Meatheads burger and fries
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Spaghetti with meatballs
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rgdeuce wrote:Smoked a pork butt. Made pulled pork sandwiches with an "eastern carolina" vinegar-based bbq sauce. Turned out perfect. And the thermapen instant read thermometer is worth its weight in gold. Nice being able to take a temperature in five different locations of the butt in less than 10 seconds combined
Interesting. In the country areas of West TN (basically outside of Memphis) the bbq sauce and cole slaw are both vinegar based. A match made in heaven when placed on top of smoked pork butt for a sandwich.
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Rabbit stifado
French fries
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Longhorned wrote:Rabbit stifado
French fries
Umm, sounds so good.

Greek recipe or LH recipe, LH?
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EOCT wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Rabbit stifado
French fries
Umm, sounds so good.

Greek recipe or LH recipe, LH?
LH!!!! Thanks, EOCT. I used to have a recipe but then I adjusted it more and more to taste as good as other people's rabbit stifado.
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I'm making Machos tonight.

Nachos - Chips + Matzah = Machos
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Ham and gruyere omelets
Baguette
Salad
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Alieberman wrote:I'm making Machos tonight.

Nachos - Chips + Matzah = Machos
Are they good?
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Longhorned wrote:
Alieberman wrote:I'm making Machos tonight.

Nachos - Chips + Matzah = Machos
Are they good?
They are almost as good as my Matzah Pizza.
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Wait. You go through the same crap I go through for Lent, don't you?
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I just tried Trader Joe's Wasabi Mayo for my sandwich. That stuff is killer. Wasabi is a nice change of pace from spicy foods. I like that short intense feeling in the nose instead of a prolonged burning mouth.
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Catintheheat wrote:I just tried Trader Joe's Wasabi Mayo for my sandwich. That stuff is killer. Wasabi is a nice change of pace from spicy foods. I like that short intense feeling in the nose instead of a prolonged burning mouth.
Well described. I'll have to get some of that.

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Spaghetti alla carbonara
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Split pea soup with leftover easter ham
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Catintheheat wrote:I just tried Trader Joe's Wasabi Mayo for my sandwich. That stuff is killer. Wasabi is a nice change of pace from spicy foods. I like that short intense feeling in the nose instead of a prolonged burning mouth.

No doubt it's good, but I really hate when I order something wasabi and it's mostly horseradish:

Trader Joe's Wasabi Mayo:

Expeller pressed canola oil, water, whole eggs, apple cider vinegar, horseradish (grated horseradish roots, distilled vinegar, water, salt, soybean oil, modified corn starch, citric acid, natural flavoring), egg yolks, salt, white mustard, distilled vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt), spinach powder (for color), lemon juice concentrate, mustard oil, wasabi.

Japanese wasabi (Wasabia Japonica):

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American wasabi, also known as horseradish:

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Not hard to get real wasabi now. Not even in central Illinois.
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Not dinner, but we made some sweet potato chips tonight. Delicious.
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I've had wasabi with sushi at a 5-star Japanese restaurant in Tucson. That stuff is intense and very addicting. It has a green tint to it and a very small amount will clear your nose. Instant love.
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A giant cheese steak made with charcoal-grilled prime rib eye and melted gruyere on a perfect, home made baguette. Grilled up the onions nice and good. Split it with the wife, along with a salad of claytonia.
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Patty melts on whole wheat bread with sweet potato fries.
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azgreg wrote:Patty melts on whole wheat bread with sweet potato fries.
Our dinners were cousins.
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I made grilled ham and Swiss paninis on brioche with onion rings. I was supposed to make a salad too but said fuck it at the last minute so there was no veggie.
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Longhorned wrote:A giant cheese steak made with charcoal-grilled prime rib eye and melted gruyere on a perfect, home made baguette. Grilled up the onions nice and good. Split it with the wife, along with a salad of claytonia.
Uh I want one
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