Not sure where to post this but it's really interested to watch. It kind of tells you why CTL uses the drop coverage instead of hedging the pnr. I think we could use the Houston defense though when we go small just to change things up and stop these teams that have gone off on us with 3 pointers
84Cat wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:51 am
Not sure where to post this but it's really interested to watch. It kind of tells you why CTL uses the drop coverage instead of hedging the pnr. I think we could use the Houston defense though when we go small just to change things up and stop these teams that have gone off on us with 3 pointers
Thanks 84. That's one of the best Bball Xs and Os videos I've seen in a long while
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:42 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
I thoroughly enjoyed that, and now I understand it better, or at all.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:23 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Here's hoping our game against Furd is like our game in Eugene: on top for 18 minutes with consistent separation and maturity, no great lapses, no runs followed by face-melting complacency. A blowout would be cool, but I don't think it teaches us much.
Seven Minute Outage On P12N
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:40 am
by TheCatInTheHat
With a 20 point second half lead, it wasn't that big a deal. But kind of classic that the problem originated in San Ramon where they're down to a skeleton crew for staffing. That may or may not have had anything to do with it, but it also may foreshadow more "technical difficulties" down the stretch, or maybe even a cancelled broadcast or two during their "going out of business" sale. I assume we're relatively safe, as the advertisers expect their commercials to be played, but at some point, it's possible somebody might have to write out some rebate checks to them, rather than more expensive options to get some games televised if they're left in the lurch with insufficient personnel. Baseball and softball season may be even more vulnerable.
Stanford Scout
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:31 pm
by TheCatInTheHat
As we know, Stanford's got a whole team of 6-9 senior forwards, and only one of their top 8 scorers shoots under 33% from 3 point range. Kind of a Jekyll & Hyde team. They started out in non-conference play losing at home to Santa Clara, losing on the road to San Diego State, and losing all three games (Arkansas, Michigan, and Northern Iowa) in the Bahamas. Then they lost their conference opener at home to ASU before knocking us off (by 18 and scoring 100) in Palo Alto. From that game forward, they've been 6-3, adding home wins over Utah and Washington to road conquests of UCLA, Oregon State, and now ASU. Their losses have been at home to WSU, and at USC and at Cal. I don't care enough about them to have any particular thoughts about getting any regular season "revenge", but we can't afford any home losses with 5 potentially tough road games remaining.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:17 pm
by Beachcat97
Think we're going to destroy them tomorrow.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:53 pm
by Chicat
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:17 pm
Think we're going to destroy them tomorrow.
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:17 pm
Think we're going to destroy them tomorrow.
Sunday
We can do it then as well.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:18 pm
by Alieberman
If we are the team I think we are- we will rip their hearts out on Sunday
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:42 pm
by Beachcat97
Alieberman wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:18 pm
If we are the team I think we are- we will rip their hearts out on Sunday
That’s my feeling as well. They had the best shooting game of their lives last time. That’s not happening again.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:48 pm
by TheCat
They are a matchup problem for everyone. If they are hitting their shots they can beat anyone. If they aren't they will be in trouble.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 pm
by Beachcat97
They’re not making 16 threes tomorrow. I’d be surprised if they made half that many.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:22 pm
by dovecanyoncat
A good old fashioned skullfucking would be nice.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
by PHXCATS
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 pm
They’re not making 16 threes tomorrow. I’d be surprised if they made half that many.
I guarantee they make 0 tomorrow
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:25 pm
by Chicat
Alieberman wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:18 pm
If we are the team I think we are- we will rip their hearts out on Sunday
If we are the team I fear we are- we will piss down our leg and fall over
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:59 am
by U.P. Zona Fan
Top 10 in kenpom O&D
Only team top 10 in both. #4 overall.
Before games today anyway.
Crazy thing here,
Houston #1 D, 84.7
Tenn #2 D, 91
Duke #30 D, 97.5
That is wild!!!!
Houston is almost as much better than #2 D than #2 is better than #30!
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:01 pm
by Beachcat97
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:59 am
Top 10 in kenpom O&D
Only team top 10 in both. #4 overall.
Before games today anyway.
Crazy thing here,
Houston #1 D, 84.7
Tenn #2 D, 91
Duke #30 D, 97.5
That is wild!!!!
Houston is almost as much better than #2 D than #2 is better than #30!
Would prefer to avoid Houston in the tournament.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:45 am
by U.P. Zona Fan
Then Kansas kills them in transition and makes them look like a jv team.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:06 am
by pc in NM
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:45 am
Then Kansas kills them in transition and makes them look like a jv team.
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:45 am
Then Kansas kills them in transition and makes them look like a jv team.
KU shot 68% for the game.
IMNSHO, fear both of these teams...
Increasingly, I’m convinced that great offense beats great defense at the college level. Kansas is an elite offensive team and merely above average defensively. Houston is an elite defense and very average on offense.
Sean Miller lost to several hot shooting teams in the tourney while at AZ, typically in seasons when our defense was very highly ranked.
Look at Tennessee yesterday. Not a great defense, but they put up 100 vs UK and won comfortably.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:23 pm
by Chicat
Mountain schools are undefeated at home. This next trip might be a monster.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:10 am
by Alieberman
We are going to be the 1st team this year to come out of the mountain school trip with a win
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:24 am
by TheCat
If we play defense the way we did in the second half we will get a split at a minimum.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:32 am
by IndianaZonaFan
KJ and Bradley give us so much defensive energy off the bench. Love to see it!!!
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:26 am
by 84Cat
Utah Scout
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:33 am
by TheCatInTheHat
Utah has some similarities to Stanford, with an experienced team with size that can shoot the three. Non-conference, they went 1-2 at a tournament in South Carolina, with a win over Wake Forest and losses to Houston and St. John's. They won at St. Mary's and beat BYU in Salt Lake. In the Pac-12, they've got road losses to the Arizonas, Stanford, and the Washingtons, and at home, they've beaten the Washingtons, UCLA, the Oregons, and most recently, Colorado.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:14 pm
by Beachcat97
I'm so ready to be done with the Pac.
There probably isn't a single team remaining on our schedule that will get us many points on Selection Sunday. But if we should happen to LOSE any of these games, it'll count against us a lot.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:27 pm
by AzCatFan2
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:14 pm
I'm so ready to be done with the Pac.
There probably isn't a single team remaining on our schedule that will get us many points on Selection Sunday. But if we should happen to LOSE any of these games, it'll count against us a lot.
Both Colorado and Utah are top 35 in current NET rankings (https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... kings/net/). A win at either would be considered quad 1 by the NCAA Selection Committee. And would remain Q1 unless either falls out of the top 75 in NET, which doesn't seem likely.
The other top NET PAC schools are WSU at 40 and Oregon at 57. Beating the MTN schools or WSU in Vegas would also be Q1, and Oregon could be Q1 too in Vegas if they can crack the top 50.
There's no question the BIG12 is a better basketball conference. Argument could be made they are the best. But it's also simply not true we have no Q1 games left on our schedule. We have two big ones coming up this week.
Beachcat97 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:14 pm
I'm so ready to be done with the Pac.
There probably isn't a single team remaining on our schedule that will get us many points on Selection Sunday. But if we should happen to LOSE any of these games, it'll count against us a lot.
Both Colorado and Utah are top 35 in current NET rankings (https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... kings/net/). A win at either would be considered quad 1 by the NCAA Selection Committee. And would remain Q1 unless either falls out of the top 75 in NET, which doesn't seem likely.
The other top NET PAC schools are WSU at 40 and Oregon at 57. Beating the MTN schools or WSU in Vegas would also be Q1, and Oregon could be Q1 too in Vegas if they can crack the top 50.
There's no question the BIG12 is a better basketball conference. Argument could be made they are the best. But it's also simply not true we have no Q1 games left on our schedule. We have two big ones coming up this week.
Count me among those who think the whole quadrant system is suspect af.
So yes, ACF, technically we do have upcoming opportunities for Q1 wins, and these matter for seeding. But the irony is that some of these teams won't even reach the NCAA tournament. The Pac is either getting 3 or 4 teams in, and it's going to be AZ, Utah and some combination of Colorado, Oregon and/or WSU. If someone other than these 5 wins the Pac tourney, then there's a very remote chance of getting 5, but I seriously doubt that.
Here's how I think the rest of the reg season goes (wins in bold):
@Utah @Colorado WSU
UW
@ASU Oregon
@ucla @USC
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:21 pm
by ASUHATER!
Winning at Utah and Colorado are good wins, but outside of that nothing left on our schedule is really impressive of a win
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:43 pm
by PHXCATS
Per Bracketmatrix (combines all projected brackets from across the web into one giant bracket without matchups)
Utah is an 8 seed
Colorado is an 11 seed
Washington State is a 12 seed
Oregon is close and is in the field in about a third of the projections
So there are more chances at good wins
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:25 pm
by TheCat
I think Gabe Madsen is the best shooter in the league by far when he is on. If he isn't I think we can beat Utah at home. Realize neither Co. or Utah has a home loss so we will have our work cut out for us. Win them both.......
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:56 pm
by Alieberman
Alieberman wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:10 am
We are going to be the 1st team this year to come out of the mountain school trip with a win
Yep
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:00 pm
by pc in NM
Gotta hand it to the Utes - that was a very tough test. We passed!!
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:08 pm
by Chicat
Really could have used FiliB and Paulias playing some minutes late in the first half when we were up double digits, and Krivas in the second half. Tommy puckers and shrinks the bench. Let the kids play.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:13 pm
by Alieberman
Yeah I loved how Tommy was subbing people in and out frequently in the 1st half to keep everyone fresh…. Then it all went out the window in the 2nd
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:16 pm
by UAEebs86
Alieberman wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:13 pm
Yeah I loved how Tommy was subbing people in and out frequently in the 1st half to keep everyone fresh…. Then it all went out the window in the 2nd
Well they couldn't miss a 3 in the 2nd half so I'm sure he was afraid to go deep into the bench.
Then again, could they have done any worse on 3 point D?
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pm
by Chicat
Honestly, we needed Krivas out there with a paw in the face of some of those shooters on switches. Ballo can’t get out fast enough and Keshad is too short. I know it’s a gamble but they were hitting everything anyway. Get that 7’2” kid out on the perimeter if you know they aren’t going to take the ball to the hoop.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:27 pm
by Postmaster
Load management is something CTL needs to work on. Pelle and Love are logging a lot of minutes.
I thought Ballo and Love stepped up in the OTs with rebounds.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:32 pm
by AZCatGirl
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:31 am
by Chicat
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:35 am
by Merkin
Postmaster wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:27 pm
Load management is something CTL needs to work on. Pelle and Love are logging a lot of minutes.
And why the Cats get early exits. Last season Lloyd's rotation was 7. Zu was gassed after the Pac tourney, and Krissa was really banged up.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:13 am
by pc in NM
Chicat wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pm
Honestly, we needed Krivas out there with a paw in the face of some of those shooters on switches. Ballo can’t get out fast enough and Keshad is too short. I know it’s a gamble but they were hitting everything anyway. Get that 7’2” kid out on the perimeter if you know they aren’t going to take the ball to the hoop.
Ballo had 16 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 3 blocks, 5-9 FG's, 0 TO's, and played the last 18 minutes without committing his fifth foul.
No way Krivas replaces that load this season. He wasn't really stopping three's when he was in...
Yeah, the Utes made 11 threes (38%), but the 'Cats made 9 (34%). And, in the OT's, Utah was not making three's anyway!!
Meanwhile, Utah was 10/21 FT's, Arizona was 24/32 FT's
Chicat wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pm
Honestly, we needed Krivas out there with a paw in the face of some of those shooters on switches. Ballo can’t get out fast enough and Keshad is too short. I know it’s a gamble but they were hitting everything anyway. Get that 7’2” kid out on the perimeter if you know they aren’t going to take the ball to the hoop.
Ballo had 16 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 3 blocks, 5-9 FG's, 0 TO's, and played the last 18 minutes without committing his fifth foul.
No way Krivas replaces that load this season. He wasn't really stopping three's when he was in...
Yeah, the Utes made 11 threes (38%), but the 'Cats made 9 (34%). And, in the OT's, Utah was not making three's anyway!!
Meanwhile, Utah was 10/21 FT's, Arizona was 24/32 FT's
I wasn’t advocating for benching Ballo altogether obviously. But when they were on fire at the beginning of the second half we needed better three shot defense from our center.
Re: 2023-2024 Arizona Basketball
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:45 am
by TheCat
Their center wasn't shooting 3's. They presented a matchup problem with their size that had shooting ability. It wasn't their center and I think Ballo was needed for rebounding which wasn't going great.