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Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:53 pm
by dmjcat
AZCatGirl wrote:This feels like the millionth time we've tried to make a comeback.
It's not happening.
If he yanked Jeter and went small we might have a chance
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:54 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Go small
Full court press
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:54 pm
by AZCatGirl
Bearcats? Are we from Cincinnati now Bill?

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:55 pm
by 84Cat
Going zone and getting steals
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:55 pm
by PieceOfMeat
playing this zone is interesting
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:56 pm
by WildcatStunner
Gave up an offensive board, I imagine that is the last we will see of the zone.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:57 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
dmjcat wrote:ByJoveByJingle wrote:Amazing how Miller won with mid-major talent with antiquated offense that just passed the ball around the perimeter. How did he do it? Witch.
He was playing mid-majors.......God you are a Genius

Haha you really aren’t worth engaging, are you?
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:01 pm
by AZCatGirl
Why even try to play? Let's just take turns at the line the rest of the night.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:01 pm
by 84Cat
These refs have ruined the game
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:05 pm
by zonagrad
Must get Zeke a touch in the post before anyone is allowed to shoot.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:08 pm
by RondaeShimmy
St John's is now down 3 staters and Arizona might still lose
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:08 pm
by 84Cat
WTF Nnaji
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:11 pm
by 84Cat
Oh my...nice steal Nico
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:11 pm
by UAEebs86
Let's go!
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:12 pm
by PieceOfMeat
so with all these touch fouls being called. they don't call anything on the guy who smacked nico on the head as he stole that ball?
o....k
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:13 pm
by 84Cat
So nobody can play defense, go it
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:14 pm
by PieceOfMeat
hAZZZARD FOR THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
damn st johns answered right back. nice shot over nnaji.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:15 pm
by PieceOfMeat
lol so we have the ball and can take the final shot to win.
who takes it?
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:16 pm
by 84Cat
PieceOfMeat wrote:lol so we have the ball and can take the final shot to win.
who takes it?
Nnaji, he can hit his fts
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:16 pm
by AZCatGirl
Well that was a stupid play. We took a timeout for that?
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:17 pm
by PieceOfMeat
cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:17 pm
by TatetheGreat
And Koloko not in to grab the rebound because...?
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:17 pm
by dmjcat
Walton was right........running the clock down was idiotic
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:18 pm
by CalStateTempe
Snuck out and got on sling.
our end of game sets, when down perpetually suck.
That is on Miller too.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:18 pm
by WildcatStunner
Just enough to make a loss interesting.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:19 pm
by PieceOfMeat
dmjcat wrote:Walton was right........running the clock down was idiotic
I don't agree with walton much. usually just mute it when he's talking, but yeah, he was right.
simply idiotic
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:20 pm
by AZCatGirl
I feel like we would've had a better chance had Miller used up all his timeouts.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:20 pm
by PieceOfMeat
70-67 cats lose
another huge flop against a decent team
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:20 pm
by dmjcat
At this point of the season.........4th-6th in the PAC12, 7-9 seed, bounced in the 1st/2nd round.
That can change.....but the Cats need to improve quite a bit in numerous areas
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:21 pm
by zonagrad
PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:22 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
Yeah, nothing wrong with that last shot except it not going in. But there are obviously a lot of issues with the team right now.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:25 pm
by RondaeShimmy
ASU beat St John's by 13, and they had their starter Heron playing.
Also didn't have 2 other starters fouled out
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm
by azcat49
Just another game where a team go’s small and exploits Zeke on defense (but he is great on offense and our best big) and balls out on Nico and dares the other guys to beat them. They haven’t beat them yet.
Smith didn’t play in the second half so I guess he is firmly in the doghouse
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm
by PieceOfMeat
zonagrad wrote:PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
we ran the clock too far down and let the guy who was 5 of 14 from 2 tonight shoot the ball instead of going through our strongest player in the game.
oh and we called a time out to come to the conclusion that this was our best option to win?
yeah, i'll call it fucking horrible.
if you're happy with it, that's cool too.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm
by Longhorned
Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm
by zonagrad
I actually think this game is a bit of an epiphany for this team. Finally the realization that Dylan Smith can’t be getting 20 plus minutes a game. Getting Koloko more minutes. As bad as we played, if Baker hits a shot or two, we still win.
A tougher schedule early would’ve revealed these weaknesses. Better now than in March.
Nico played a great second half. Nnaji was solid as always and still needs more touches and EVERYONE needs to realize that. Green needs to be more aggressive on the offensive glass.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:27 pm
by TatetheGreat
TatetheGreat wrote:Our program is D-E-A-D.
R.I.P.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:27 pm
by Captain Obvious
dmjcat wrote:At this point of the season.........4th-6th in the PAC12, 7-9 seed, bounced in the 1st/2nd round.
That can change.....but the Cats need to improve quite a bit in numerous areas
I'm beginning to think we're an NCAA bubble team. We may be getting bounced out of the NIT.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:27 pm
by RondaeShimmy
zonagrad wrote:PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
Why burn the whole clock in case he misses the shot.
Worst case if he misses and there's still time on the clock and they make 2 FTs at the other end, Arizona still has a shot to make a 3 and send it to OT
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:29 pm
by zonagrad
PieceOfMeat wrote:zonagrad wrote:PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
we ran the clock too far down and let the guy who was 5 of 14 from 2 tonight shoot the ball instead of going through our strongest player in the game.
oh and we called a time out to come to the conclusion that this was our best option to win?
yeah, i'll call it fucking horrible.
if you're happy with it, that's cool too.
Sure, St. John’s was just going to let Zeke get an open look in the low post. Mannion had a really good second half. This game was lost in the first half.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:29 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
RondaeShimmy wrote:zonagrad wrote:PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
Why burn the whole clock in case he misses the shot.
Worst case if he misses and there's still time on the clock and they make 2 FTs at the other end, Arizona still has a shot to make a 3 and send it to OT
Yeah I agree. But that’s on Mannion.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:30 pm
by PieceOfMeat
zonagrad wrote:PieceOfMeat wrote:zonagrad wrote:PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
we ran the clock too far down and let the guy who was 5 of 14 from 2 tonight shoot the ball instead of going through our strongest player in the game.
oh and we called a time out to come to the conclusion that this was our best option to win?
yeah, i'll call it fucking horrible.
if you're happy with it, that's cool too.
Sure, St. John’s was just going to let Zeke get an open look in the low post. Mannion had a really good second half. This game was lost in the first half.
Like I said, if you're happy with it, that's cool too.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:31 pm
by dmjcat
RondaeShimmy wrote:zonagrad wrote:PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose
lmfao at that final play call
fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
Why burn the whole clock in case he misses the shot.
Worst case if he misses and there's still time on the clock and they make 2 FTs at the other end, Arizona still has a shot to make a 3 and send it to OT
Ding, Ding, a winner.
Running the clock down was just plain STUPID.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:31 pm
by PieceOfMeat
Longhorned wrote:Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.
St John's had a horrific 2nd half, and still had enough to make the shot to seal the victory. Even with St. John's being that bad, we couldn't pull out the W. I'd say that bump is a bit bigger than you think it is.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:33 pm
by RondaeShimmy
I'll say it again
ASU beat a full strength St John's team by 13
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:34 pm
by Captain Obvious
PieceOfMeat wrote:Longhorned wrote:Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.
St John's had a horrific 2nd half, and still had enough to make the shot to seal the victory. Even with St. John's being that bad, we couldn't pull out the W. I'd say that bump is a bit bigger than you think it is.
Totally agreed. This was a bad loss indicative of systemic issues that I don't really see getting resolved. Realistically I don't think we're much better this year than we were last year.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:38 pm
by Longhorned
PieceOfMeat wrote:Longhorned wrote:Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.
St John's had a horrific 2nd half, and still had enough to make the shot to seal the victory. Even with St. John's being that bad, we couldn't pull out the W. I'd say that bump is a bit bigger than you think it is.
Well, I think it was an especially bad loss, and deeply suckitudinous. But in the last 8:30, Arizona had something do with St. John's limitations. I'd also add that I'm quite the connoisseur of the pre-Christmas bad loss. Had Arizona finished the game like they started it, I'd say they're in trouble. They may still be in trouble, but I wouldn't bet on it. Not in this year's college basketball season especially.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:39 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
RondaeShimmy wrote:I'll say it again
ASU beat a full strength St John's team by 13
They also lost to St Mary’s by 40. It’s a bad loss (by 3) to go with our other difficult losses to top 10 teams (by 4). It just seems crazy to go pinwheeling from euphoria to depression the way this board does.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:41 pm
by Longhorned
zonagrad wrote:Finally the realization that Dylan Smith can’t be getting 20 plus minutes a game.
I'm concerned that Baker in his place was pure garbage.
Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:50 pm
by zonagrad
Longhorned wrote:zonagrad wrote:Finally the realization that Dylan Smith can’t be getting 20 plus minutes a game.
I'm concerned that Baker in his place was pure garbage.
Baker didn’t shoot it well. Otherwise, he played ok. He’s better than Smith, I know that.